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All-Stars 3 Format
« on: March 02, 2017, 07:51:44 am »
Hi guys. As the GM for the upcoming All-Stars game, I've been toying around with the format in my head. Since it's been a while since I've run a game, and my past games haven't gone so well as far as balance and what-not, I figured it'd be good to get some opinions on the players think is best.

Regardless of the outcome of this poll, the theme I've decided on is World War II. Here's a summary of how the game thematically would look in each scenario:

Option 1: More Civilians
Axis Powers - Mafia
Germany - Enforcer - At night, you may choose a player. The actions of that player, if they have any, will be nullified. The Axis Powers will be privately notified if an action was nullified this way.
Japan - Roleless Mafia
Italy - Roleless Mafia
Allied Powers - Civilians
Great Britain - Detective - At night you may choose a player. The allegiance of that player will be revealed privately to you at the end of the night phase. 
Roleless Allied Power x9 [players may choose whichever country from the Allied Powers they want to die as that isn't Great Britain]

Option 2: More Mafia
Axis Powers - Mafia
Germany - Roleless Mafia
Japan - Roleless Mafia
Italy - Roleless Mafia
Hungary - Roleless Mafia
Allied Powers - Civilians
Great Britain - Detective -  At night you may choose a player. The allegiance of that player will be revealed privately to you at the end of the night phase
America - Defender - At night you may choose a player. If that player would die at night, they will be spared. If this happens, it will be publicly announced to the thread that the player was saved.
Roleless Allied Power x8 [players may choose whichever country from the Allied Powers they want to die as that isn't Great Britain or America]

So, what do you guys think? I'm also open to modifying the formats slightly, if anyone has a better idea.

The poll will run for 3 days, and the finalized setup will be posted on Monday. A week after that, the game will begin.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 07:56:06 am »
@'ing the All-Stars:

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Congratulations on making it into the All-Stars game!

Also, to clarify, I'm accepting input from anyone, not just All-Stars. Surely you want to be entertained?
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 08:24:45 am »
Still dunno how the fuck I ended up in the all-stars considering I've attended all of one game here and IIRC only BARELY made the cut over on SRK, but I won't hesitate to take a slot offered to me.  :votebot:
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 08:26:10 am »
I think the 10-3 setup can include medic as well.

That way the enforcers only result isn't a cop hunt.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 08:41:53 am »
I think the 10-3 setup can include medic as well.

That way the enforcers only result isn't a cop hunt.

I wasn't sure if that would make it too hard for mafia to win. They're low in numbers and have to play around a medic save? Seemed kinda harsh. But then again it is All-Stars, so maybe kind harsh is okay?

Does anyone else think it would work? I'll add it to the poll options if so.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 10:17:54 am »
Just do 3 mafia.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 12:32:22 pm »
The less Mafia the better. Let's just make it 1 Mafia member and it's guaranteed to not be me.

On the other hand, Nazis.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 01:45:35 pm »
A 10-3 gives three cycles before we are at LYLO. 9-4 gives two.

You always want more room for mafia to maneuver without town being able to win off rvs. You also want more time for town to solve. That makes 10-3 an optimal format.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 01:46:57 pm »
I personally prefer doing vanilla 13 with a cop with a random night 0 green check.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 01:49:30 pm »
Germany - Enforcer - At night, you may choose a player. The actions of that player, if they have any, will be nullified. The Axis Powers will be privately notified if an action was nullified this way.

America - Defender - At night you may choose a player. If that player would die at night, they will be spared. If this happens, it will be publicly announced to the thread that the player was saved.

I don't want either of those to be a thing. Also, let's not have another game where roleblock targets are public because that's so dumb.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 01:58:56 pm »
Hmm... okay. So how does this sound?

3 mafia (no roles), 10 civilians with a detective and a n0 check

(per MP's suggestion)
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2017, 02:34:59 pm »
If Germany's the Enforcer, do we get concentration camp write ups?
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 03:22:21 pm »
I definitely feel like as all-stars, it's good to see what we can do with PR, but solving a game as raw as possible is more impressive.

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2017, 03:22:33 pm »
I definitely feel like as all-stars, it's good to see what we can do with PR, but solving a game as raw as possible is more impressive.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2017, 04:08:24 pm »
Hmm... okay. So how does this sound?

3 mafia (no roles), 10 civilians with a detective and a n0 check

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N0 random town peek. No potential red checks.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2017, 05:10:08 pm »
+1 to the n0 peak, but not to excluding the possibility of a red check.

Leave it up to Turretius. Also, I super-duper-triple claim Australia for the write-ups.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2017, 05:51:52 pm »
+1 to the n0 peak, but not to excluding the possibility of a red check.

Leave it up to Turretius. Also, I super-duper-triple claim Australia for the write-ups.
If you want a n0 red check, then you ought to leave it up to the player to pick their check. That balances out the fact that they can get red checks.

Otherwise, random green check.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2017, 06:01:33 pm »
Hmm... okay. So how does this sound?

3 mafia (no roles), 10 civilians with a detective and a n0 check

(per MP's suggestion)

This.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2017, 06:07:01 pm »
+1 to the n0 peak, but not to excluding the possibility of a red check.

Leave it up to Turretius. Also, I super-duper-triple claim Australia for the write-ups.
Only if you aren't mafia.
If you want a n0 red check, then you ought to leave it up to the player to pick their check. That balances out the fact that they can get red checks.

Otherwise, random green check.

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I feel like both full-random and player-choice options aren't good for this format because it's so small. The detective would have a 25% chance of getting a red check.

So final proposed format:
3 mafia, all roleless
10 civilians, 1 detective that has a random n0 innocent check

Pls like if you are in favor of this arrangement
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2017, 06:11:16 pm »
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2017, 06:12:15 pm »
Which one is option 1? :P
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2017, 06:16:28 pm »
I suppose you could vote for option one.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 07:23:55 pm »

Option 1: More Civilians

Option 1: More Mafia
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2017, 07:44:00 pm »
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2017, 08:24:34 pm »
+1 to the n0 peak, but not to excluding the possibility of a red check.

Leave it up to Turretius. Also, I super-duper-triple claim Australia for the write-ups.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2017, 05:06:30 am »
Your loss.

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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2017, 10:17:03 am »
Seriously though, if there is an N0 it should be a random green.

It's almost gamebreaking to guaranteed lynch a scum on day one because of a lucky shot. None of us would want that shit to go down if it were us.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2017, 10:17:51 am »
Oh good Forge already agreed. Kewl.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2017, 08:43:45 pm »
Seriously though, if there is an N0 it should be a random green.

It's almost gamebreaking to guaranteed lynch a scum on day one because of a lucky shot. None of us would want that shit to go down if it were us.

Fun fact: We had a N0 red check on mafia in mine and Syn's GoC game. Town still lost.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2017, 06:56:27 pm »
I'm fine with whatever. I'm just glad I was the number 1 choice for the all-star game. Quite humbling.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2017, 04:25:49 am »
Fun fact: We had a N0 red check on mafia in mine and Syn's GoC game. Town still lost.
Once in a blue moon absolute garbage towns aside, I still think a N0 red would be shitty in this game lol

inb4 this is used against me during the game

we havent gotten our roles yet ok?!?!?!
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2017, 08:46:45 am »
Just an update: I'll post the finalized rules later tonight, hopefully. Plenty of time for everyone to see them before the intended start date.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2017, 08:47:10 am »
Unless you guys want to start ASAP?
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2017, 09:58:34 am »
I'll be equally busy the whole week so I'm ok with whatever.
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2017, 10:02:28 am »
@ForgeDigger should I make you GM now?
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2017, 10:20:16 am »
Sure, if it's convenient
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2017, 11:21:22 am »
Done
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2017, 05:12:46 pm »
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2017, 04:26:42 pm »
He said Lizard Lick!  :D
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2017, 04:40:02 pm »
Shots fired still never forget.

Funny thing is my first parts order came from them. Then all of a sudden they went scamtastic.

Thankfully all subsequent orders have come from:

Akishop
Gamingnow (RIP)
Etokki (With a few orders being hand delivered from laugh while I was in Seoul)
ISTMall (Multiple orders in Korea, including one I ran straight to their shop to get fixed after they messed up)
Paradise Arcade Shop (Bryan is fucking awesome)
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2017, 04:51:49 pm »
They were gone by the time i got into stick building, but I've heard the stories. Paradise is my go to parts store (love Bryan and Sue, wish i could have lived at their place in hawaii before they moved). In the off chance they don't have something, arcade shock is my backup
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Re: All-Stars 3 Format
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2017, 05:09:14 pm »
They are the most awesome people. I have ran into him at Evo and Frosty and have had nothing but a good time with him. I've seen some cool prototypes from him that I can't divulge on until they're ready to go to production.
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"Get your goddamn Battle Arena Toshinden shit out of my Tekken." --Souther
"That's when I decided to give up on my dream to become an X-Man and begin pursuing girls." --tortugagrande, champion of all our hearts.