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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2015, 10:40:13 am »
Right now he & Black Rock are getting ready to host Recruitment IV, which are an amazing series of games, but also labor intensive, so i am not sure he is looking to play anything now. That said, maybe if you sign up for his game (which isn't going to start for about 10 days), he might give you a quid pro quo.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2015, 10:45:46 am »
Right now he & Black Rock are getting ready to host Recruitment IV, which are an amazing series of games, but also labor intensive, so i am not sure he is looking to play anything now. That said, maybe if you sign up for his game (which isn't going to start for about 10 days), he might give you a quid pro quo.
Ahhh, wish I could. I'm also GMing on my home forum very shortly so it'll be a double whammy for me.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2015, 12:08:45 pm »
I mightve talked Bass The Clever into coming over
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #103 on: August 09, 2015, 12:35:11 pm »
I mightve talked Bass The Clever into coming over
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #104 on: August 09, 2015, 01:41:52 pm »
Has anyone asked that goofy clown?

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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #105 on: August 09, 2015, 02:39:30 pm »
LOL, I've been hitting Bass up, too.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #106 on: August 09, 2015, 04:16:42 pm »
Hello to everyone. Jumping in from The Syndicate, as well, because why not. People tend to call me a good player over there, but I'll probably be obliterated here. Right now I simply need my mafia fix, but it might get tricky, if Recruitement IV will start next week over on TS - we'll see. Also, 10pm deadlines will be way too late for me, so I'll probably vote earlier than that.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #107 on: August 09, 2015, 05:12:07 pm »
Hello to everyone. Jumping in from The Syndicate, as well, because why not. People tend to call me a good player over there, but I'll probably be obliterated here. Right now I simply need my mafia fix, but it might get tricky, if Recruitement IV will start next week over on TS - we'll see. Also, 10pm deadlines will be way too late for me, so I'll probably vote earlier than that.
Welcome Rico! I plan to not let you win this time, though I will still do all your puzzles.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #108 on: August 09, 2015, 05:46:45 pm »
Has anyone asked that goofy clown?
I got the covered.

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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #109 on: August 09, 2015, 05:47:18 pm »
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #110 on: August 09, 2015, 06:09:35 pm »
Hello to everyone. Jumping in from The Syndicate, as well, because why not. People tend to call me a good player over there, but I'll probably be obliterated here. Right now I simply need my mafia fix, but it might get tricky, if Recruitement IV will start next week over on TS - we'll see. Also, 10pm deadlines will be way too late for me, so I'll probably vote earlier than that.
Hi Rico, pleasure having you aboard!! :)
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #111 on: August 09, 2015, 06:40:21 pm »
I got the covered.

Yo, @XthAtG00fYC10WnX you playing?

Why you talking to yourself?
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #112 on: August 09, 2015, 06:57:37 pm »
Why you talking to yourself?
I'm pretty sure it was @Augustus. The question still applies.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #113 on: August 09, 2015, 07:17:09 pm »
Im trying to play this game.;
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #114 on: August 09, 2015, 07:22:29 pm »
Oh by the way for those who don't know me I'm Bass The Clever aka Bass and I does this mafia shit. :)
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #115 on: August 09, 2015, 07:29:59 pm »
Oh by the way for those who don't know me I'm Bass The Clever aka Bass and I does this mafia shit. :)
Yasss, hi Bass!
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #116 on: August 09, 2015, 07:59:21 pm »
@descuffphoenix is in. :) I will most likely fill up the last five slots by tomorrow. So without further ado:

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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #117 on: August 09, 2015, 08:21:00 pm »
/in
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #118 on: August 09, 2015, 08:44:05 pm »
I aint sending in a role list fuck that
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #119 on: August 09, 2015, 08:46:49 pm »
Oh by the way for those who don't know me I'm Bass The Clever aka Bass and I does this mafia shit. :)

Welcome to the grinder you scrub bitch
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #120 on: August 09, 2015, 09:58:56 pm »
Sweet, let's get our game on!

I'll see what comes up. I've never done this role list thing other.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #121 on: August 09, 2015, 10:02:31 pm »
/in
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #122 on: August 09, 2015, 11:21:30 pm »
Welcome Rico! I plan to not let you win this time, though I will still do all your puzzles.

Bet I'll be hearing that from others for the rest of my career.

No puzzle making that I can see; even the indy win grabs are a bit ehh. I assume every third party, except for the Survivor, can win without needing to stay alive?
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #123 on: August 09, 2015, 11:57:53 pm »
Bet I'll be hearing that from others for the rest of my career.

No puzzle making that I can see; even the indy win grabs are a bit ehh. I assume every third party, except for the Survivor, can win without needing to stay alive?
SK also needs to stay alive. Survivor and SK's wins conflict with each other. Jackson and Morrell win with whichever side it says they win with based on their status, so they don't need to stay alive for the whole game.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #124 on: August 09, 2015, 11:58:07 pm »
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Welcome! Hope you have a good time :)
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #125 on: August 10, 2015, 12:03:07 am »
SK also needs to stay alive. Survivor and SK's wins conflict with each other. Jackson and Morrell win with whichever side it says they win with based on their status, so they don't need to stay alive for the whole game.

Ah, true.

Does every civ win if the faction wins or are deaths permanent losses here as well?
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #126 on: August 10, 2015, 12:06:36 am »
Ah, true.

Does every civ win if the faction wins or are deaths permanent losses here as well?
All civs win if civs win. :)
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #127 on: August 10, 2015, 01:21:16 am »
Ah, true.

Does every civ win if the faction wins or are deaths permanent losses here as well?

Holy fuck that sounds awful. I'd be bottom 5 easy if that was the standard here.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #128 on: August 10, 2015, 01:36:19 am »
Holy fuck that sounds awful. I'd be bottom 5 easy if that was the standard here.
Yeah, that doesn't really make sense to me. Night kills can often be strategic just to get rid of important or powerful, skilled players. They shouldn't lose for being good enough for a NK.
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« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2015, 01:50:39 am »
Maybe SVS can explain better the reasoning behind it, but most Syndicate residents don't have a problem with it. In fact, some are motivated by it (or, alternatively, don't feel victory would be as sweet if they would die, yet win with the faction). Plus, it makes for a more competitive leaderboard, too.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #130 on: August 10, 2015, 02:40:09 am »
Maybe SVS can explain better the reasoning behind it, but most Syndicate residents don't have a problem with it. In fact, some are motivated by it (or, alternatively, don't feel victory would be as sweet if they would die, yet win with the faction). Plus, it makes for a more competitive leaderboard, too.

Do you just purposely play shit in order to get to the end? We've got some people here that do that, but it's usually not on purpose.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #131 on: August 10, 2015, 02:56:46 am »
Do you just purposely play shit in order to get to the end? We've got some people here that do that, but it's usually not on purpose.

Oddball players can most of the times do themselves more harm than good, because they get civs spooked and may end up being mislynched (especially in the early phases, until vote patterns and such start to sink in), so I wouldn't call it a sound strategy to last long, let alone survive the game. Plus, the variables to how the Mafia team disposes of players during the Night are plenty, so it's not always the case that only the towniest get killed.

Despite having our own slackers, inactives, non-contributors, players who bring their B-game and so on, I wouldn't say I've played yet with some "purposely playing shit". Although we do have a borderline unreadable, totally detached, troll-like (but in a passive way) player I'd dare you to invite in one of your games. Just him and the rest being local JMT players. I'd buy tickets.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #132 on: August 10, 2015, 02:57:58 am »
Or sell, in fact.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #133 on: August 10, 2015, 03:09:48 am »
I one the syndicate more and more. That'd certainly increase motivation to avoid mislynching.

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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #134 on: August 10, 2015, 03:39:03 am »
So we seriously have two sets of brothers in this game?

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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #135 on: August 10, 2015, 04:01:34 am »
Rico I assume you're talking about vompatti as the troll? He was a nightmare to manage as Mafia, he was never around
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #136 on: August 10, 2015, 04:16:13 am »
Rico I assume you're talking about vompatti as the troll? He was a nightmare to manage as Mafia, he was never around

True. He doesn't play ball with any faction whatsoever.

He still managed to do some serious damage, though. He claimed bad from Day 1 and everyone typically went "oh no he couldn't really be that stupid", he got his main hunter lynched before him and he finally got the guillotine five Days into a bloody game. I'd still call that pretty good, even if totally uncoordinated for your mafia boss standards.

Still, good luck trying to figure out if he's bad or just vompy, from a civ perspective. You either just lynch him and risk wasting a Day and two lives (or more) with it or...well, *secrets*.  ;)
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #137 on: August 10, 2015, 05:00:00 am »
True. He doesn't play ball with any faction whatsoever.

He still managed to do some serious damage, though. He claimed bad from Day 1 and everyone typically went "oh no he couldn't really be that stupid", he got his main hunter lynched before him and he finally got the guillotine five Days into a bloody game. I'd still call that pretty good, even if totally uncoordinated for your mafia boss standards.

Still, good luck trying to figure out if he's bad or just vompy, from a civ perspective. You either just lynch him and risk wasting a Day and two lives (or more) with it or...well, *secrets*.  ;)

Good ol' vomps. I love playing with him though.
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Re: Jesus Toast Mafia VI: Teen Wolf - Signups!
« Reply #138 on: August 10, 2015, 05:03:22 am »
Maybe SVS can explain better the reasoning behind it, but most Syndicate residents don't have a problem with it. In fact, some are motivated by it (or, alternatively, don't feel victory would be as sweet if they would die, yet win with the faction). Plus, it makes for a more competitive leaderboard, too.

Now see, that is one of this things I actively dislike about how we play. I think win dead or alive conditions motivate civs to play a riskier game. If they have to be alive, the play a blendier game, and don't go as far out on a limb as they might if they knew they would still win even if they died.

I think it makes for a better game, and for me that is more important than a competitive leaderboard.
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« Reply #139 on: August 10, 2015, 05:28:10 am »
I don't see how "win DOA" conditions can't make civs equally blendy - sweating it out less, for instance, if you'd feel there's a good chance the other civs in the game might achieve your win for you. Also, we usually attribute the concept of a "blendier game" to mafia and third parties wanting to look as civ as possible, so the sight itself of a player doing a blendy game would probably raise suspicions, ergo would hurt that player's chances to stay alive till the end.
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« Reply #140 on: August 10, 2015, 06:10:52 am »
I don't see how "win DOA" conditions can't make civs equally blendy - sweating it out less, for instance, if you'd feel there's a good chance the other civs in the game might achieve your win for you. Also, we usually attribute the concept of a "blendier game" to mafia and third parties wanting to look as civ as possible, so the sight itself of a player doing a blendy game would probably raise suspicions, ergo would hurt that player's chances to stay alive till the end.

It makes more sense if you play online games. Say me and some people from here are playing counter strike. Were just doing a bomb defusal game. Normally if one guy is alive and wins the whole round, everybody wins. But if I would lose because I died, I'm not gonna make risky plays for the greater cause of my team winning. I'm gonna sit back with an AWP and say "no I'm not helping you clear the bomb site. I'm camping with my gun where I probably won't die". So my team went out and died at the bomb site, I didn't defuse the bomb, and we lost anyway. Whereas if I would've put my one life for the round on the line, we might've cleared it and won.

Same thing in Mafia. Most people won't give their A game to solve everything, if they are right and give their team the key to victory, they get night killed and still lose even though it was their work that won the game.

For instance @Synonym imagine if you lost the last Ace Attorney game. You called like 4 of the Mafia team and got night killed. Wouldn't that be some bullshit if you lost even though you basically pulled the whole floor out from under the Mafia?
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« Reply #141 on: August 10, 2015, 06:25:56 am »
So we seriously have two sets of brothers in this game?
Lovers have chat, Emissary and Alpha don't, they only know of each other.
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« Reply #142 on: August 10, 2015, 06:26:52 am »
Lovers have chat, Emissary and Alpha don't, they only know of each other.
No I'm talking real life.

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« Reply #143 on: August 10, 2015, 06:45:41 am »
That's a fair viewpoint, except for maybe the counter strike analogy, which to me implies more actual team effort than civ faction relationing. And I'm actually not opposed at all to "team efforts" in Mafia being rewarded shared DOA win. Sadly, these team efforts are usually called mafia factions. However, I've recently suggested in Syndicate that I think clear civ team efforts (civ sharing BTSC, for instance) should also be rewarded shared win, no matter if one member gets killed or not. But back to the analogy: In counter strike, you play the defusal game with several other players on your team, but knowing who they are. You don't play Mafia as a civ knowing who the other civs are (except for partial reads you might get from abilities). The analogy, in this case, would be more like "you're trying to defuse the bomb, need others' expertise as well, but you still have to differentiate between who is trying genuinely to defuse the bomb with you and who is trying to make you cut the wrong wire and get blown up"; because err that's essentially playing Mafia.

Again, I am not opposed to DOA win rules, but my personal incentive is winning. As in, participating myself to achieve that win, not simply being part of the winning faction (although I probably wouldn't think the same if I'd be mafia, so I guess I'm a hypocrite). If I'd really put my best game, make the mafia sweat and get offed, especially close to victory, it would be bitter indeed, but still within the normal range of what can happen in a Mafia game. C'est la vie.

Plus, having 4 genuinely achieved wins rather than 55 ones mostly achieved for being on the right side of the winners sounds more pleasing, but that's just me.
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« Reply #144 on: August 10, 2015, 06:46:27 am »
Ugh, the above @XGamer. I forgot to edit this, although I've been made aware two more posts have been written in the meantime.
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« Reply #145 on: August 10, 2015, 06:54:17 am »
It makes more sense if you play online games. Say me and some people from here are playing counter strike. Were just doing a bomb defusal game. Normally if one guy is alive and wins the whole round, everybody wins. But if I would lose because I died, I'm not gonna make risky plays for the greater cause of my team winning. I'm gonna sit back with an AWP and say "no I'm not helping you clear the bomb site. I'm camping with my gun where I probably won't die". So my team went out and died at the bomb site, I didn't defuse the bomb, and we lost anyway. Whereas if I would've put my one life for the round on the line, we might've cleared it and won.

Same thing in Mafia. Most people won't give their A game to solve everything, if they are right and give their team the key to victory, they get night killed and still lose even though it was their work that won the game.

For instance @Synonym imagine if you lost the last Ace Attorney game. You called like 4 of the Mafia team and got night killed. Wouldn't that be some bullshit if you lost even though you basically pulled the whole floor out from under the Mafia?

I think some hosts on the Syndicate are coming to realize that. Some hosts are working more towards alternate win conditions, and there has been chatter of even offering one or two honorary wins in a game to a dead player whose team won where that player played a key role in the decision. I'm still torn on this idea myself, and will definitely not approach every game I host with the same mindset as another.

I agree though. It sucks for that one guy who is Supatown to get killed late in the game to have the win forfeited when they did the heavy-lifting. But on the other hand, the guy who does absolutely nothing and gets lynched on Day 1 (I wonder who I could be talking about) does not deserve a win.
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« Reply #146 on: August 10, 2015, 06:59:58 am »
I have played with 7 players currently in this game. Nice to see some familiar faces to start things off.
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« Reply #147 on: August 10, 2015, 08:06:20 am »
No I'm talking real life.
Oh yeah, lmao.

Well Za Warudo's brother is new to mafia so we'll see where that goes. Who's the other set?
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« Reply #148 on: August 10, 2015, 08:16:24 am »
I told a friend about this game, he said he was interested. Will get him to make an account and post ASAP.
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« Reply #149 on: August 10, 2015, 08:31:35 am »
I told a friend about this game, he said he was interested. Will get him to make an account and post ASAP.
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