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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #100 on: May 12, 2015, 07:52:04 pm »
KaelThas is sweet, his trait (d) modifies his abilities (q, w, e) with additional buffs. Turns his aoe flame attack into a bigger, more damaging one. His ticking bomb makes it cast for free. His stun turns into a 3 person stun.

His ults are also low cooldown, 40 and 50 seconds, so you can use them a lot

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #101 on: May 14, 2015, 08:23:40 am »
http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19127984/

Heroes World Championship series announces; 1.2 million dollars in prizes up for grabs
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #102 on: May 14, 2015, 08:28:03 am »
holy shit how do we enter JTM in this?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #103 on: May 14, 2015, 08:52:12 am »
Get a 5 man team together to start practicing, NA is going to have 3 months of tournaments. You enter your team into the league and just  do well; top 5 teams from these 3 months of tournaments advance to the NA finals along with a team from Latin America, Australia/New Zealand, and South East Asia ,and those 8 teams duke it out with the top 2 advancing to blizzcon

It should be an open tournament so we can actually do it if we have 5 people willing to try. We will likely get stomped, but hell why not give it a shot? Lol

We have some people who play mobas pretty hardcore on here, maybe we can scramble together a team for fun
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #104 on: May 14, 2015, 10:44:28 am »
@Skizzz is the hardcorest MOBA player on JTM; so hardcore that he'll laugh at you for playing HotS.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #105 on: May 14, 2015, 10:46:45 am »
I'm down to try depending on when it starts. If it's any time in June, I'm not available between the 12th and the 28th for National Guard stuff

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #106 on: May 14, 2015, 11:02:15 am »
Theres one in june, july, and august

@Skizzz is the hardcorest MOBA player on JTM; so hardcore that he'll laugh at you for playing HotS.

Should be childs play then
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #107 on: May 14, 2015, 11:04:30 am »
I'm up for July. I'll play the best Malfurion you ever saw.

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #108 on: May 14, 2015, 11:28:35 am »
I got dibs on Azmodan.  We need one or two tanks and a slyvanas lol.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #109 on: May 14, 2015, 01:11:51 pm »
I could try, but I can't practice till June or so.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #110 on: May 14, 2015, 02:13:50 pm »
Well, tournaments use draft mode, so you have to be pretty versatile with your character choices; that being said, Im much better with tanks and specialists than damage
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #111 on: May 14, 2015, 09:44:37 pm »
I'll practice more, I suppose. When I play Dota 2, I tend to stick to the support/mages. I'm just now really getting into trying right click based heroes or carries.

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #112 on: May 15, 2015, 12:29:11 am »
Idk what the meta is for HotS
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #113 on: May 15, 2015, 07:17:44 am »
Bigger emphasis on objectives than anything else. Team fights are still important though. It's weird for me to describe.

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #114 on: May 15, 2015, 04:57:34 pm »
I'm game to try, so long as they're free. I'll practice HOTS and get back into the swing of being bad at MOBAs
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #115 on: May 15, 2015, 05:46:16 pm »
I have done 0 drafting and theres not many tournaments out there, as they pick up it'll be cooler to watch

Had a really awesome game today, on haunted mines. We were dominating almost the whole game. We are pushing their core, get it to 50%, and wipe. Whoops.

Mine spawns as we're all dead, so they go down and get a free 100 skull golem.

I say "Lets just spawn and push core, all bot." Thrall is with me. Tyrande doesnt think its a good idea. We're almost about to hit their base and push, and she's all "Its not gonna work." "Too late, going in!" I said as we pushed in hard.

Abathur used monstrosity, and pushed it hard. I dropped my phoenix Heroic right on the core. The golems are spawning (ours is right on their base, theey have 1 more fort ot go through but a 20 minute 100 ksull golem will be unstoppable). they start to come back; I manage to burn down lili really fast, tyrael gives me a hassle so I try to kite him around.

Bam golems spawn!

And we won, before the golems could land a hit.

"gg"

"Told you it would work : )" I told tyrande
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #116 on: May 15, 2015, 05:50:15 pm »
lol awesome.  so how does drafting work?  are we just given a random character to play with?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #117 on: May 15, 2015, 05:58:22 pm »
You pick one at a time, then the next team, then you, and so on, but it may be different for HOTS.

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #118 on: May 15, 2015, 08:28:43 pm »
Team 1 gets first pick. Team 2 takes next 2. Then 1 gets 2. Then 2 gets 2. Then 1 gets next 2, and team 2 gets last pick.

No bans currently in hots, when the roster is bigger there's phases of banning heroes before a pick
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #119 on: May 18, 2015, 09:16:34 am »
Tomorrow is open Beta, so anybody can jump in and play. Should see a big increase in players. Then 1 month after that is the full release.

Today is the last day to spend money to get the wonder billie mount, get on it if you want it : )
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #120 on: May 19, 2015, 08:28:43 am »
Gonna spend most of today playing, in honor of open beta, if anybody wants to join me
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #121 on: May 19, 2015, 10:27:11 am »
Might join you later, as I finally have a computer that can run it.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #122 on: May 19, 2015, 05:26:25 pm »


Open Beta Trailer, open beta is on now
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #123 on: May 21, 2015, 11:12:48 am »
Ugh, I don't understand blizzard sometimes. They added global play, so from one account you can now play on any of their regions! Just like hearthstone!

However, each region has to have its own purchases made. Just like hearthstone.

So, really, it accomplishes nothing, as you can't buy a hero and have it available everywhere. It seems pointless for a F2P game to have this feature.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #124 on: May 23, 2015, 01:55:54 am »
I'd love to be able to migrate between regions, especially the Korean server when I move to Korea, on Hearthstone.  But I already have a collection on US, so I have to stay there.

Zero sense.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #125 on: May 23, 2015, 12:11:40 pm »
That's weird. Why would they do that?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2015, 06:09:00 pm »
That's weird. Why would they do that?

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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #127 on: May 24, 2015, 06:15:47 pm »
More than that, they set up each region to operate Independant of each other, and also when bnet 2.0 was concepted they didn't do f2p microtransactions games it only checked if you owned the license. I imagine its literally a technical hurdle; and also you don't want people buying in other regions just for the discount
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #128 on: May 24, 2015, 06:52:04 pm »
gonna start playing a bit more HoTS now.  Maybe we do try for the 1.2 mil lol.  How should we go about training for this "draft" tournament?  Should I buy and level up heroes of different types?  Ranged Assassin, Tank, Support, etc?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #129 on: May 24, 2015, 07:07:21 pm »
^ I also think this information would be useful
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #130 on: May 24, 2015, 07:09:07 pm »
More than that, they set up each region to operate Independant of each other, and also when bnet 2.0 was concepted they didn't do f2p microtransactions games it only checked if you owned the license. I imagine its literally a technical hurdle; and also you don't want people buying in other regions just for the discount

I can't imagine the technical hurdle (granted I have limited programming experience) being that hard to rectify.  As far as people getting discounts by buying on different regions, what's to stop them from requiring you to have a physical address in the region in order to purchase in that region, but allow players to use content they purchased/unlocked within their home region in other regions?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #131 on: May 24, 2015, 08:28:03 pm »
I can't imagine the technical hurdle (granted I have limited programming experience) being that hard to rectify.  As far as people getting discounts by buying on different regions, what's to stop them from requiring you to have a physical address in the region in order to purchase in that region, but allow players to use content they purchased/unlocked within their home region in other regions?

Because I'd register an account in russia and pay dirt cheap prices lol. It could be rectified, but Blizzard STILL doesnt have the ability for you to hide yourself from being online. They make amazing game design choices, but apparently they program like molasses

gonna start playing a bit more HoTS now.  Maybe we do try for the 1.2 mil lol.  How should we go about training for this "draft" tournament?  Should I buy and level up heroes of different types?  Ranged Assassin, Tank, Support, etc?

Theres a draft mode that opens up at player level 30. For now, I'd say just keep getting a feel for what heroes you like, and what roles you can play. I'll list the best valued heroes to buy.

Warrior: ETC, Anub. ETC is 2k gold and one of the best tanks; anub just became 4k gold and he has the highest winrate of all heroes currently, and hes really good

Assassins: Valla for 2k gold is a steal, shes a solid hero. Illidan at 4k gold is amazing and one of the best heroes period.

Support: Uther for 7k gold is a really good support, Malf at 2k gold is also pretty solid (most of the best supports seem to be expensive)

Specialist: None are that cheap, unfortunately, but they're also the least necessary ones. Zagara at 7k is solid ,Sylvanas is really really good and shes 10k,


Now, if we're gonna really put a team to try to play, we'll probably have predefined roles (1 tank, 2 assassins, 1 support, 1 floater) and each player would want to own as many of those roles as they can. At least the really solid ones; you can have up to like 6 dps drafted so you need ot make sure your assassin pool is deep if you're playing one.

Theres also been some triple tank comps pulling up, double support (1 pure healer like lili, rhegar or brightwing with a supportier one like tyrande or tassadar or malf), some specialists see play (Sylvanas, Sgt Hammer can have solid comps built around him. azmodan can be really good, The Lost Vikings are really, really good but really hard to play,

If you can spare the $20 buy the starter pack thats coming june 2nd, you get 5 solid heroes (Zeratul, Sonya, Lili, Zagara, Jaina) which covers all the roles, you get a cool mount and a skin for zeratul. I'll be buying it as I need all those except Zeratul (and his skin) so I'll be giving that away to whoever wants it (hes one of my favorite assassins!)
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #132 on: May 24, 2015, 08:36:14 pm »
Heres one pros tier list, updated fairly recently, which I agree mostly with; I think Muradin is good but not OP here, but otherwise this is a good starting point. I think Chen is also underrated on this list.

http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/idream-tierlist

ETC and Diablo got hit with changes/slight nerfs during the last tuning as they were the best tanks by far, so now they're kinda overreacting by placing them so low. Anub only got a fix on his Beetle AI (and some less delay on his abilities) which made all the difference in the world.





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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #133 on: May 24, 2015, 08:43:32 pm »
But on the flip side, if you already have stuff purchased on your NA account, why would you buy something on a Euro account that isn't tied to the one where you have content already available on?

They COULD hypothetically make you tie your account to a phone number via text verification, of course that'd suck for me given I live on another continent but make purchases through western means, but there are also workarounds for that.

I just see the decision to lock content to regional servers as a cash grab, could be wrong, but that's the way it looks to me.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #134 on: May 24, 2015, 08:49:37 pm »
I think they're gonna come to their senses eventually. The thing with blizzard is they are not an inherently greedy company. They scrapped a game they spent years and millions upon millions developing just because they weren't happy with it, instead of releasing it just to make money.

they just mad odd decisions sometimes...



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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #135 on: May 24, 2015, 09:55:43 pm »
I see your point there.  Because what, Starcraft Ghost was dead after how much money was put into it?  Even if it was a terrible title, they could've dropped it and recouped some of their losses instead of eating the whole thing?

I'd stand to reason that Blizzard makes up for all the money they burn by making good titles that people love playing and are willing to shell out for.  Hearthstone stays as the only F2P game that I have actually put real money (of my own) on.  They seem to understand risk/reward better than most devs, but like you said, this region locked content is a bad idea.

I guess one argument is that given each region has its own ladder system in games, and each region's skill level differs, they don't want people just rushing down weaker regional ladders without putting  a time or monetary investment into each game just to make it to the top of a ladder fast.  Especially since they rely on those rankings as ways to qualify for blizzcon championships.

So on the competitive side, maybe it makes sense, with the tertiary effect that there might actually be players that pay money to buy on multiple servers.  On the casual/unsanctioned tournament side, it sucks, because we could've had BK in our HS tournament if it weren't for this issue.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #136 on: May 26, 2015, 05:08:33 am »
Confirmed - Raynor's Recruitment no longer pops the pirate treasure chest in one shot.  I dunno why I still pick Raynor lol.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #137 on: May 26, 2015, 07:14:36 am »
I played with such a bad team this morning.  The tank (Arthas?) was not even tanking...even with me supporting him (I was Malfurion).  He was falling back when he should have been pushing...He went head first alone without any support....ugh.  I don't even think I saw him use any skills ugh.  Open beta hooray.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #138 on: May 26, 2015, 07:29:17 am »
Lol, not only open beta but free week heroes can be such a pain in the ass. At one point in the game, Arthas + Lili was so absurdly OP, we were able to run that duo in one lane, and literally push it to the core without ever once needing to hearth out on cursed hollow. Was hillarious.

Then he got nerfed : (
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #139 on: May 26, 2015, 07:36:08 am »
I don't mind that too much, that always felt unintentional and a bit much. Does it at least deal a good chunk of damage to it or can you not use it on the chest at all anymore?
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2015, 08:25:04 am »
Can't use it on chest anymore, le sigh. 

Played a couple games with Fuzz vs. AI.  I was Valla and picked "attack faster with more Hatred" and "normal attacks heal you"...that seemed to work well and I only went back to a pool once to heal. 
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2015, 08:44:57 am »
Once upon a time, she could get enough attack speed and heal through attacks to literally facetank a keep and not take damage lol so if you think that combo is strong now... imagine before!

With valla, here are her currently popular talents...

https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=Valla

Its basically the multishot build that is popular, though Ive seen some pro teams run an auto attack based build too
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #142 on: May 26, 2015, 08:58:56 am »
One of the games I played with Jason we had a dude who absolutely insisted on diving headfirst into 2 enemy Heroes, their Keep, and their entire minion wave. Died twice in the first 3 minutes then DC'd. Either he came back or someone replaced him, but it was saddening nonetheless.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #143 on: May 26, 2015, 09:15:44 am »
lol wut I didn't even see that hahahahaha  I was busy being a boss.  Skizzzgasm
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #144 on: May 26, 2015, 11:32:17 am »
So I know I'm noob at the game.  But does everyone think everyone else on their team are noobs? lol

Like this Zagara was holding onto the spider eggs...like 35 of them.  He didn't turn one in at all.  And then eventually died and lost them all.  But he didn't seem noob...maybe he plays other MOBAs?    The whole team was typing in Spanish (or whatever) and I think they were saying "This Azmodan is noob!"  talking about me.  Funny though, I felt like I was carrying them lol, I had the highest XP contribution (<--- is this a good indicator of how well you are doing?)

We won though, because we finally got our shit together and started taking all the siege camps. 
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #145 on: May 26, 2015, 03:32:41 pm »
Yeah, and since its such a team based game, one bad teammate can make it very frustrating lol

also, if you ever bought the starter bundles (like the $5 one with raynor malf and muradin), the stimpacks just went live on it so dont let it go to waste!
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2015, 08:23:29 am »
lol, played a game today, with an arthas who was really bad. Calling out shit that didn't make any sense, like he would call out to kill a hero (at near full health) and we'd jump on them and burst them, but they'd survive and  get back to tower, and he'd be like "Wtf zera" like, bitch we're level 6 we dont have burst yet! He'd charge in and die without anybody near him, and be like "Wtf team where were you?" and we're across the map ganking the 1 stray, or taking a merc camp.

At one point in the game, he was barking stupid orders (take boss, go do this, turn in coins -- when we had 4 out of the 16 needed and no reason to go for coins), and at the end of the game he even used his heroic just to take a seige camp.

I had my first death of the game (to his 5+) at around level 18, and I died ganking 2 of theirs so it was worth it. And he was like "lol zera you suck." As we won the game, I was like "If only we could all be as good as arthas!" and got a laugh, "fk you zera noob" as I had the highest hero damage (on a team with nova and valla) and second highest siege damage (valla took that, I spent more time ganking), and only 1 death! He starts raging at me post game, spamming party invites, I whispered him "lol u mad?" and blocked him.

I can imagine his salt.

He's level 13 so he's new, and I don't mind new players, but what I mind is new players who think they know what they are doing and rage at others. Then I call you out. lol.
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2015, 04:40:50 pm »
Just had an epic game, where it took 18 minutes for anybody to capture the first Dragon Knight!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48340729/Dragon%20Shire%20-%2018%20minutes%20to%20take%20dragon%20knight!.StormReplay
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #148 on: May 28, 2015, 06:53:10 pm »
omg Zagara is so good.  Funny, I seem to gravitate towards the "Specialists" but I'm not even sure what that type means.

And why does Arthass seem to have such low life?  c'mon
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Re: Heroes of the Storm thread
« Reply #149 on: May 28, 2015, 08:38:48 pm »
Arthas used to be so tanky, he could self sustain through frostmourne, zombie heroic, and the death coil he was really top tier. Then he got overnerfed unfortunately.

Specialists are ones they don't have basic classifications for, but generally seem to be ones who can kill towers and minions the best
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