Jesus Toast Mafia

Mafia Games => Old Game Threads => Topic started by: Bious on February 05, 2017, 11:54:24 am

Title: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 6 (Black Spies Triumph!)
Post by: Bious on February 05, 2017, 11:54:24 am
... "And that's what the dossier said happened. Pinkie escaped with our best Nurse, and six of out spies got out alive."

"..."

"But I know that's not how it happened. You were there. And now I want the truth."

"..."

"I'm giving you an opportunity to do this of your own volition. If not, we have other ways of making you talk."

"... The beginning was true. The bunker, Bious dying, the Black Spies infiltrating. But after that is where our stories diverge. After we learned we were trapped..."

Quote
✰Alpha✰
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
DrWilgy
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
jasonC Night 1 Kill: Red Spy
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
RadicalFuzzDay 1 Lynch: Solid Snake
Reiraku
Synonym
The Chief
The-Co-Jones
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Phases:
 Day 1 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47457.html#msg47457)
 Night 1 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47575.html#msg47575)
 Day 2 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47803.html#msg47803)
 Night 2 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47825.html#msg47825)
 Day 3 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg48092.html#msg48092)
 Night 3 (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg48273.html#msg48273)

Rules:
http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,752.0.html

Day 1 will be extended (cause it's day 1) and end on Thursday Feb 9th at 8PM.

All Day Phases after this one will be 36 hours, while all Night Phases ahter the first one will be 12.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 05, 2017, 12:00:04 pm
Error(0):No Players Defined
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 07, 2017, 08:40:00 am
@✰Alpha✰
@Augustus
@Blindknagg
@Cobalt
@Cyntalan
@DrWilgy
@ForgeDigger
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@jasonC
@Missing Person
@Pimp Willy
@RadicalFuzz
@Reiraku
@Synonym
@The Chief
@The-Co-Jones
@vonvorto
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX
@ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 07, 2017, 08:42:51 am
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ee/ee9509c8569322f8607c22bb246edb5794500c5a90d3f6c19172ac6909e9cdc6.jpg)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 07, 2017, 08:45:32 am
Also we unfortunately start with 19 as CrimsonFox had to bow out of playing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 09:13:47 am
We have 0 subs? #JustJTMThings
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:19:22 am
Also we unfortunately start with 19 as CrimsonFox had to bow out of playing.
Fucking shocker.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:20:21 am
A TRUE runback would have given me medic but alas. :(
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:20:49 am
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ee/ee9509c8569322f8607c22bb246edb5794500c5a90d3f6c19172ac6909e9cdc6.jpg)
Wolfy

Vote Registered For Cyntalan
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:24:35 am
@vonvorto if you're town don't suck this time k?

Oh and I forgot my whole agenda for this game

Vote Registered For Alpha
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 07, 2017, 09:28:16 am
Also just a fair warning but no salt in this game please.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 09:28:31 am
Is that day one only our is he condemned for the rest of the game? @Cobalt  :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:29:18 am
Is that day one only our is he condemned for the rest of the game? @Cobalt  :votebot:
Imma get him lynched. At some point.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:29:31 am
Also just a fair warning but no salt in this game please.
Garbage rule 0/10 would not recommend
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 09:30:04 am
No Vote(18):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Missing Person, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 09:38:53 am
derp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 09:39:51 am
@vonvorto if you're town don't suck this time k?

Oh and I forgot my whole agenda for this game

Vote Registered For Alpha
This seems contrived.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 09:40:34 am
Forgot I need to leave a space after quoting something on this site or else the post looks like butt.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:44:00 am
This seems contrived.
Eat me
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 09:49:58 am
Hrm..

Very well then.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 09:53:16 am
People online and not posting.

zzzzzz
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 09:56:41 am
Well... I'm busy making dinner. How about the rest of y'all?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:59:28 am
Well... I'm busy making dinner. How about the rest of y'all?
I'm in Classical Theatre doing research for my Oedipus project. *shrug*
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 10:08:12 am
I'm in Classical Theatre doing research for my Oedipus project. *shrug*

Well ain't you fancy

 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/269217894737379329.png)

For real though sounds like an interesting project.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 10:22:29 am
Well ain't you fancy

 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/269217894737379329.png)

For real though sounds like an interesting project.

Nothing like wanting to kill your father and fuck your mom!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 07, 2017, 10:37:39 am
Feels like a family reunion. It'll take me a bit to get back to form but I can at least follow rule 1. Read Everything.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 11:00:40 am
Feels like a family reunion.

This is a pretty hilarious comment when you take into account I was just talking about Oedipus LMAO
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 11:02:05 am
People online and not posting.

zzzzzz
I'm here now. Talk to meeee.

Even though no one fucking listens to me anyway.
Well... I'm busy making dinner. How about the rest of y'all?
Trying to prod to get info. You know, actually playing mafia.
A TRUE runback would have given me medic but alas. :(
I don't like this post.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 11:03:44 am
And since Cobalt has started his Alpha escapade and I already know where Alpha is going, I figure I'll do the day 1 auto counter wagon as well.

Vote Registered For vonvorto

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 11:10:40 am
Not sure if I like where the auto-vote quota is going. A few games from now we might even get to skip past day 1 :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 07, 2017, 11:28:40 am
Vote Registered For Missing Person

Missed you too.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 11:30:04 am
No Vote(16):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(1):vonvorto
vonvorto(1):Missing Person
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 11:39:17 am
I'm here now. Talk to meeee.
-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 11:40:11 am
Stupid s***. I didn't finish making my post.

Wasn't important anyway.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 11:40:52 am
Not sure if I like where the auto-vote quota is going. A few games from now we might even get to skip past day 1 :votebot:
But it's so funny and clever!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 11:54:25 am
Stupid s***. I didn't finish making my post.

Wasn't important anyway.
So nothing ever said to me is important?
Like a shot to the heart.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 12:07:52 pm
@Bious, I can still see the Loser's Lounge forum. I haven't looked at anything in there, but you need to check the Loser's Lounge permissions.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 12:12:11 pm
Oh shit

Whaddup?

I'm a doctor

Vote Registered For Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 12:27:02 pm
So did anyone else notice that if you highlight the text in your role, you can see a secret message that shows the identity of one of the Mafia? Mine shows RadicalFuzz.

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

Nothing like wanting to kill your father and fuck your mom!

Was it the other way around for you?

Not sure if I like where the auto-vote quota is going. A few games from now we might even get to skip past day 1 :votebot:

I agree. Let's make a rule that I'm the only one that's allowed to do it.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 12:30:03 pm
No Vote(14):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, vonvorto
vonvorto(1):Missing Person
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 07, 2017, 12:55:52 pm
@Bious, I can still see the Loser's Lounge forum. I haven't looked at anything in there, but you need to check the Loser's Lounge permissions.


Fixed, thanks for letting me know!
Thankfullly there was nothing in there.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 01:31:31 pm
I actually wasn't going to auto vote vonvorto and turn over a new leaf. But since there's nothing else really to do I might as well.

I can still turn over a new leaf and switch off of him later. We'll see what happens.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 07, 2017, 01:47:47 pm
The only reason I'm not voting Alpha is because I want to see if we can have another catastrophe like the last time I played.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 07, 2017, 02:04:33 pm
Bious, your av is hypnotic.

I approve.

Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 02:08:30 pm
I actually wasn't going to auto vote vonvorto and turn over a new leaf. But since there's nothing else really to do I might as well.

I can still turn over a new leaf and switch off of him later. We'll see what happens.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

This is a pretty scummy post. Btw, hi everybody. Let's all pretend to hold hands and sing kumbaya for a little bit until the shit gets slung. And by shit, I mean shit-covered knives dipped in pestilence, because this game will turn into that quickly.

Cobalt's opening aggressiveness is also scummy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
This is a pretty scummy post. Btw, hi everybody. Let's all pretend to hold hands and sing kumbaya for a little bit until the shit gets slung. And by shit, I mean shit-covered knives dipped in pestilence, because this game will turn into that quickly.

Cobalt's opening aggressiveness is also scummy.

^^
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 02:11:00 pm
As if it was ever going to be like that lol

Vote Registered For jasonC
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 02:11:04 pm
Was it the other way around for you?

Choke and die.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 02:11:40 pm
This is a pretty scummy post. Btw, hi everybody. Let's all pretend to hold hands and sing kumbaya for a little bit until the shit gets slung. And by shit, I mean shit-covered knives dipped in pestilence, because this game will turn into that quickly.

Cobalt's opening aggressiveness is also scummy.
Not scummy. Motivated.

(The wolfy comment was a joke, the Alpha one wasn't.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 02:11:47 pm
ffs

Vote Registered For jasonC
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 02:13:36 pm
The only reason I'm not voting Alpha is because I want to see if we can have another catastrophe like the last time I played.

(http://emojis.slackmojis.com/emojis/images/1450319446/63/fry.png)

Exactly what kind of catastrophe are we wishing for here?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 02:14:50 pm
Not scummy. Motivated.

(The wolfy comment was a joke, the Alpha one wasn't.)

So you assume I'm referring to your opening post. Are you calling it motivated or a joke? Because those two don't jive.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 02:16:08 pm
So you assume I'm referring to your opening post. Are you calling it motivated or a joke? Because those two don't jive.

Oh wait. Which exact post are you referring to?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 02:16:45 pm
ffs

Vote Registered For jasonC

Are you trying to get my attention?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 02:18:09 pm
Oh wait. Which exact post are you referring to?

Doesn't matter now - you already went defensive on something and you called it both being motivated but a joke at the same time. Pretty hedgy, friend.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 02:20:51 pm
Doesn't matter now - you already went defensive on something and you called it both being motivated but a joke at the same time. Pretty hedgy, friend.
No lol

I initially assumed you were talking about the Alpha thing. Then realized it could be in reference to the post where I just quoted Cyntalan and said wolfy with an RVS vote. And THEN after your last post I realized neither of those were my initial posts and now I'm confused.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 02:28:13 pm
Hmm ok.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 02:29:00 pm
-when you're already wondering wtf Cobalt's alignment is-

I see nothing is new there.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 02:30:03 pm
No Vote(12):Augustus, Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, vonvorto
vonvorto(1):Missing Person
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 02:32:09 pm
ffs

Vote Registered For jasonC

wot does this mean.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 02:37:27 pm
My first vote got messed up cause of the keyboard adding a space before the end set of brackets, which is why I said ffs. Can see how out of context it seems like I'm upset with jason lol

Nah, I'm just using votes to non-ambiguously point my suspicions. Jason's the only person who stood out to me with the "let's be nice" thing; sort of like pointing something out that wasn't really there. Most suspicious to me out of what I've seen so far, but it still isn't much
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 02:37:33 pm
Cobalt's opening aggressiveness is also scummy.
I did think his "eat me" reply to my joke post that he knows is a joke seemed more aggressive than it should've been. That, or it wasn't really aggressive but I can't tell cos internet wall. Meh, obviously not good enough to formulate a read yet.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 07, 2017, 02:42:48 pm
(http://emojis.slackmojis.com/emojis/images/1450319446/63/fry.png)

Exactly what kind of catastrophe are we wishing for here?

A game that ends up being as entertaining as that last one.

Of course, I also died that game too. So let's try to avoid that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 02:43:05 pm
I did think his "eat me" reply to my joke post that he knows is a joke seemed more aggressive than it should've been. That, or it wasn't really aggressive but I can't tell cos internet wall. Meh, obviously not good enough to formulate a read yet.
nah it wasn't aggressive

it was the exact same response I gave to you in the other game which is why I said it lmao
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:13:03 pm
This is a pretty scummy post. Btw, hi everybody. Let's all pretend to hold hands and sing kumbaya for a little bit until the shit gets slung. And by shit, I mean shit-covered knives dipped in pestilence, because this game will turn into that quickly.

Cobalt's opening aggressiveness is also scummy.

What's so scummy about it? Past experience with me?

I haven't played mafia with any semblance of seriousness in over a year. Even the last SRK game, I just reposted all my posts in order until I died.

It's not impossible for me to have re-evaluated my own play in a year's time and try a different approach.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:14:00 pm
As if it was ever going to be like that lol

Vote Registered For jasonC

I don't get it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:14:31 pm
Bious, your av is hypnotic.

I approve.

Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX

I also don't get this.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:15:15 pm
If you guys are going for RVS to check the over/under on how long it takes for me to get a headache, start paying on the under.

Grats.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:18:22 pm
My first vote got messed up cause of the keyboard adding a space before the end set of brackets, which is why I said ffs. Can see how out of context it seems like I'm upset with jason lol

Nah, I'm just using votes to non-ambiguously point my suspicions. Jason's the only person who stood out to me with the "let's be nice" thing; sort of like pointing something out that wasn't really there. Most suspicious to me out of what I've seen so far, but it still isn't much

Yeah, I don't like this, especially given how only two or three times in mafia at all I've seen scumtells in an opening post.

This looks reachy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 03:19:32 pm
I don't get it.


My first vote got messed up cause of the keyboard adding a space before the end set of brackets, which is why I said ffs. Can see how out of context it seems like I'm upset with jason lol

Nah, I'm just using votes to non-ambiguously point my suspicions. Jason's the only person who stood out to me with the "let's be nice" thing; sort of like pointing something out that wasn't really there. Most suspicious to me out of what I've seen so far, but it still isn't much

If you don't get it otherwise I don't know what to tell you lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:20:03 pm
I should say that I've only seen it two or three times when I've played.

I'm sure it's happened more with lower caliber players. jasonC makes it hard to believe that he'd do so, unless he just pulled a WIFOM to make himself look too dirty to be with passive aggressiveness.

Leaning that Forge is reaching here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 03:20:18 pm
Oh didn't see your reply .-.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:20:34 pm

If you don't get it otherwise I don't know what to tell you lol

Yeah, I was looking at posts in order and didn't see your second post in response to Augustus.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:20:49 pm
Oh didn't see your reply .-.

Is this how Alpha feels when he gets inb4'd?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:23:13 pm
People who surprisingly hasn't posted yet:

@Pimp Willy
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX
@RadicalFuzz

People who unsurprisingly haven't posted yet:

@ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 03:26:46 pm
Cobalt seems pretty aggressive from my point of view. kappa
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 03:29:40 pm


Is this how Alpha feels when he gets inb4'd?

Probably feels worse because of his ego tbh

But yeah, I'd agree that it's a reach, but not a particularly reachy one. Jason's the only post that particularly stood out to me, because I felt like he was criticizing something that wasn't happening. No one's really got a "kumbaya" feel from their opening afaik.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 03:30:08 pm
People who surprisingly hasn't posted yet:

@Pimp Willy
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX
@RadicalFuzz

People who unsurprisingly haven't posted yet:

@ZOOLANDER

I agree  that is surprising. Let's lynch one of them.

I put their names in a random name generator and RadicalFuzz's name came up.

Didn't Pimp post in the Hearthstone thread a while ago?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 03:32:20 pm
He posted before the game started IIRC. But not sure about that.
Title: Re: Current Votes
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 03:58:23 pm
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, vonvorto

Von I can understand with the grudgy "rivalry" going on between the two but why did you vote for MP @DrWilgy?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 03:59:06 pm
He posted before the game started IIRC. But not sure about that.

Looks to be a 2 hour difference.

BUT DO PLANES FLY FOR THAT LONG?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 04:08:20 pm
They're all stuck in mafia chat. All of them
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 04:08:32 pm
On the same flight
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 07, 2017, 04:09:20 pm
Maybe he's using the same airline as Icege?  :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 04:16:53 pm
Mafiair
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:36:39 pm
I did think his "eat me" reply to my joke post that he knows is a joke seemed more aggressive than it should've been. That, or it wasn't really aggressive but I can't tell cos internet wall. Meh, obviously not good enough to formulate a read yet.

I haven't played with you in a while, but "derp" is scummy coming from you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:39:25 pm
What's so scummy about it? Past experience with me?

I haven't played mafia with any semblance of seriousness in over a year. Even the last SRK game, I just reposted all my posts in order until I died.

It's not impossible for me to have re-evaluated my own play in a year's time and try a different approach.

No actually it has nothing to do with past experience with you. It's the fact that you bothered to make a post saying you might change your mind later, when that's kinda like obvious since we don't know anyone's alignment.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 04:41:19 pm
No actually it has nothing to do with past experience with you. It's the fact that you bothered to make a post saying you might change your mind later, when that's kinda like obvious since we don't know anyone's alignment.

Except that my final couple of serious games left me staying on von IIRC. So there's that...

It'd be like Alpha saying he could be swayed off Fuzz D1.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:43:19 pm
I should say that I've only seen it two or three times when I've played.

I'm sure it's happened more with lower caliber players. jasonC makes it hard to believe that he'd do so, unless he just pulled a WIFOM to make himself look too dirty to be with passive aggressiveness.

Leaning that Forge is reaching here.

I mean, I think I see where she's coming from though. I don't normally post like that, so it's ok. She did say it was a weak read.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:45:41 pm
People who surprisingly hasn't posted yet:

@Pimp Willy
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX
@RadicalFuzz

People who unsurprisingly haven't posted yet:

@ZOOLANDER

I'm not surprised about PW. He's got kids and all and like a ton of other distractions/hobbies I'm sure. His usual posting time is later on, and depending on his activity, it's an easy read by like d3.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 04:47:11 pm
There's a scum between you and Forge from where I sit right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:47:44 pm
Looks to be a 2 hour difference.

BUT DO PLANES FLY FOR THAT LONG?

Is this a jab at Icege? lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 04:49:17 pm
I'm still waiting for everyone not named OZ to post before I start digging deeper. But you two are both scum leans right now, and I'm not sure which one is which.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:49:33 pm
There's a scum between you and Forge from where I sit right now.

MP tunnel one of us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 04:49:58 pm
Is this a jab at Icege? lol

Honestly, it's cowardice to attack someone who can't fight back.

PogChamp PogChamp PogChamp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 04:50:14 pm
MP tunnel one of us.

Don't tempt me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 04:55:57 pm
I'm still waiting for everyone not named OZ to post before I start digging deeper. But you two are both scum leans right now, and I'm not sure which one is which.

#reachingnotreaching sounds like an excuse to not do anything while you wait for your mafia bros to check in to the mafia thread so you can come up with a game plan
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 07, 2017, 04:58:52 pm
Gut read, Vote Registered For Missing Person.

Don't like the number of times he's self denigrated so far.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 07, 2017, 04:59:21 pm
Works a bitch, started a new project and I have less free time than I used to while I get caught up, so yeah sorry I wasn't around. Usual day 1 bs going on, dick measuring competition, RadicalFuzz vote, etc. Just like Han Solo said, "Chewie, we're home."

And yeah I posted the HS thing last night before I went to bed when I checked if the game had started, here for now at least
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 05:00:04 pm
No Vote(11):Augustus, Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(3):DrWilgy, Synonym, vonvorto
vonvorto(1):Missing Person
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 05:02:23 pm
Works a bitch, started a new project and I have less free time than I used to while I get caught up, so yeah sorry I wasn't around. Usual day 1 bs going on, dick measuring competition, RadicalFuzz vote, etc. Just like Han Solo said, "Chewie, we're home."

And yeah I posted the HS thing last night before I went to bed when I checked if the game had started, here for now at least

That's a bit apologetic for you, PW.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 05:07:55 pm
Gut read, Vote Registered For Missing Person.

Don't like the number of times he's self denigrated so far.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



Ew, this is gross actually.

Vote Registered For Synonym

I have in no way self-denigrated aside from saying that I've adjusted how I'm going to play.

That is in no way denigration, and he knows it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 05:09:15 pm
And lest I forget that every time Synonym has been mafia against me, he's played some sort of angle on me.

Much like Forge, only much more random as to what he'll do.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 05:10:45 pm
So yeah, if he wants to say that I've self-denigrated, then he's clearly not reading the thread and giving only a speed-read at that, then he's just auto-piloting an easy D1 bandwagon that has already started.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 05:21:52 pm
So yeah, if he wants to say that I've self-denigrated, then he's clearly not reading the thread and giving only a speed-read at that, then he's just auto-piloting an easy D1 bandwagon that has already started.

Is a bandwagon of 1 (+vonvorto) a bandwagon?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 07, 2017, 05:23:57 pm
That's a bit apologetic for you, PW.

That's true, either you caught me slippin or I'm just mellow in my old age lol
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 05:30:04 pm
No Vote(11):Augustus, Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(3):DrWilgy, Synonym, vonvorto
Synonym(1):Missing Person
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 05:36:21 pm
Cobalt seems pretty aggressive from my point of view. kappa

That's because I hate you and I want you to be lynched.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 05:36:56 pm
Is a bandwagon of 1 (+vonvorto) a bandwagon?

Early on? It looks like an easy one to pile on and stay on.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 05:51:42 pm
MP, you left The-Co-Jones off your list of surprising/un-surprising non check-ins.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 07, 2017, 05:55:18 pm
Can this game start tomorrow at around this time? I haven't slept in almost 2 days, i tried to follow the thread at work but it was difficult. I will definitely give you better stuff tomorrow...well relative to me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 05:57:53 pm
hawaiian punch we missed you
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 05:58:33 pm
Can this game start tomorrow at around this time? I haven't slept in almost 2 days, i tried to follow the thread at work but it was difficult. I will definitely give you better stuff tomorrow...well relative to me.

This fucker, trying to get us to Night phase already.

Day 1 phase is extended.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:05:18 pm
nah it wasn't aggressive

it was the exact same response I gave to you in the other game which is why I said it lmao

oh
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:07:33 pm
I haven't played with you in a while, but "derp" is scummy coming from you.

I have opened several villager games with that line. Not that I expect you to know that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:08:08 pm
Alpha, you gonna post actual content?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:08:19 pm
MP, you left The-Co-Jones off your list of surprising/un-surprising non check-ins.

Not surprising or unsurprising for me. Just meh.

If he shows up, he doesn't put in a lot. Sometimes I barely notice him unless he sets off an alarm for me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:09:19 pm
Townreading Augustus.

Guess I'll be right on that again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:09:55 pm
Don't remember what jason nitpicking stuff means, if anything at all.

-shrug-

Will wait on that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:11:34 pm
Alpha, Wilgy, Cyntalan for idklol woofs.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:12:06 pm
Townreading Augustus.

Guess I'll be right on that again.

you don't know me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:12:46 pm
you don't know me.

Get on cam, I'll easily read you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 06:13:49 pm
Alpha, you gonna post actual content?

Content or contempt?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:14:32 pm
MP town.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:19:01 pm
Scumreads:

jasonC/Forge
Synonym
Alpha

Alpha not even remotely trying to break down game tech mechanics feels like he's trying to distance himself from that. I know he's done that since GoC, but the fact that he hasn't just seems off.

I want more content.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:20:16 pm
Also scumread on PW, he's usually the biggest detractors for SMW and yet he's wanting us to excuse him for that.

I know work is work and things get busy. But yeah, until I see him trying to do something in this game, I'm not sold.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:22:49 pm
Town reads so far:

Augustus
Cobalt (although one of the two could be scum, Cobalt most likely over Augustus right now.)
Blindknagg
Reiraku (Scummy with wanting a catastrophe, but more newb. Could be bad, so slight town lean)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:23:18 pm
Null:

FPSG
Cynt
Basically anyone else
Title: Re: Current Votes
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 06:24:53 pm
Von I can understand with the grudgy "rivalry" going on between the two but why did you vote for MP @DrWilgy?
He's the only person who's introduction made me go "meh, I Can vote for this"

What do you think of Forge's JC vote?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:28:50 pm
He's the only person who's introduction made me go "meh, I Can vote for this"

What do you think of Forge's JC vote?

Wait what?

What part of this:

I'm here now. Talk to meeee.

Even though no one fucking listens to me anyway. Trying to prod to get info. You know, actually playing mafia. I don't like this post.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk



Looks scummy enough to vote for?

Looks like fear.

Making me re-evaluate Wilgy and Cobalt now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 06:30:28 pm
MP town.
Y tho

I didn't find it scummy, more so I didn't feel bad voting for it. There was no "nah" in my brain. What do you think of cobalt town reading you?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 06:32:54 pm
Scumreads:

jasonC/Forge
Synonym
Alpha

Alpha not even remotely trying to break down game tech mechanics feels like he's trying to distance himself from that. I know he's done that since GoC, but the fact that he hasn't just seems off.

I want more content.

This is a runback. Check the first thread if you want a breakdown.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:36:35 pm
Y tho

I didn't find it scummy, more so I didn't feel bad voting for it. There was no "nah" in my brain. What do you think of cobalt town reading you?

Neither here or there. Either he sees that I'm working to solve the game or he has enough information to confidently say it about me with me leading the lynch vote so that when I flip town, he looks clean by not being on it.

He looks like he's trying to solve the game but I also don't like how he latched on to Augustus so quickly. We know that Cobalt has played more games with him than anyone here, and if he's scum, he'd want Augustus out.

I haven't seen GTF games but I know Augustus is a smart scumreader, and pisses me off every time he nails me as scum. Cobalt knows that doubly so, and I have no clue what his record is with Augustus town and him scum. But I'd assume he'd want immediate threats out.

Which then leads me to why I don't like you for voting me based on my OP, because the only one I called out in it is Cobalt. You're making think I'm looking at a Cobalt/Wilgy/Forge/Synonym scumteam.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 06:37:36 pm
@Bious

What result does the UC get if he investigates the Grey Spy the same night the Grey Spy is forged?
Can the tracker track the Mafia night kill?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:37:43 pm
This is a runback. Check the first thread if you want a breakdown.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1j6z5m.jpg)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:38:27 pm
I ain't latching onto Augustus.

he's always null as fuck with me. Our exchange was a direct reference to a game we just played together that was w/w. I never even try to read him until flips happen and I see what side of things he's been on.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:40:35 pm
I ain't latching onto Augustus.

he's always null as fuck with me. Our exchange was a direct reference to a game we just played together that was w/w. I never even try to read him until flips happen and I see what side of things he's been on.

And who else is going to know that?

There's not going to be context to draw from when basically only three people in this game know the context at most.

That's why it looks scummy here. On GTF it flies. On JTM?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 06:41:39 pm
has willy every been an opponent of team too much work? i don't remember

null read on MP. he talks a lot, which means he says more things that bother me than someone with less posts, but I can't find anything in particular that seems scummy. Though his change from "it's either Forge or Jason" to "Wilgy's annoying me so it must be Forge" is kinda awk

I don't like Alpha, but that's because he's not entertaining enough
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 06:43:38 pm
Also don't like the reiraku town read. If anything from that explanation you gave it should be null
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:45:22 pm
I ain't latching onto Augustus.

he's always null as fuck with me. Our exchange was a direct reference to a game we just played together that was w/w. I never even try to read him until flips happen and I see what side of things he's been on.

My impacT.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:45:28 pm
And who else is going to know that?

There's not going to be context to draw from when basically only three people in this game know the context at most.

That's why it looks scummy here. On GTF it flies. On JTM?

Stop using community meta to excuse weak reads.

I would've answered that question to anyone had they asked. I already said something @ Augustus about my response being the same as last game.

Btw, Augustus hasn't been on GTF in over a year now, and when he WAS active on GTF he was running every other game. So we don't really have as extensive of a meta as most would assume. This last game on MU we played together is the only game we've played together in the last year or so probably.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:45:43 pm
My impacT.

this is PMDT cultural appropriation and I'm triggered.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:46:27 pm
also jesus MP lighten up I want to have a fun trolly RVS before you start firing hip reads my nigga.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:48:10 pm
Actually kinda like that post from Cobalt, btw.

 :-X
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:48:42 pm
actually ykw fuck that

I wanna fucking fight someone right now cuz of personal things so get tf at me scumteam. Vanilla Cobalt is back and is ready to go balls to the motherfucking wall.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:49:02 pm
Actually kinda like that post from Cobalt, btw.

 :-X

Good, my strategy to pocket you is working.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:50:47 pm
Imma just play Overwatch till bedtime now.

Doubt I'll miss anything important anyway.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:51:24 pm
and btw @Missing Person as far as Augustus town and Cobalt scum goes I think there was only Salt Therapy for that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:51:33 pm
Imma just play Overwatch till bedtime now.

Doubt I'll miss anything important anyway.

@Augustus

PS4?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:51:54 pm
Forge's okay, methinks.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 06:52:08 pm
PC.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:52:41 pm
has willy every been an opponent of team too much work? i don't remember

null read on MP. he talks a lot, which means he says more things that bother me than someone with less posts, but I can't find anything in particular that seems scummy. Though his change from "it's either Forge or Jason" to "Wilgy's annoying me so it must be Forge" is kinda awk

I don't like Alpha, but that's because he's not entertaining enough

Forge/Cobalt scum makes more sense than jason/Cobalt does.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:53:26 pm
IF Cobalt flips town, it goes back to either/or though.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 07, 2017, 06:54:26 pm
Vote Registered For Synonym

I'm actually okay with MP.

Slightly okay with Augustus and Cobalt.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:54:43 pm
And more interestingly, @RadicalFuzz still hasn't checked in but is playing SFV.

Has time for one but not the other? DansGame
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:55:06 pm
and btw @Missing Person as far as Augustus town and Cobalt scum goes I think there was only Salt Therapy for that.

ok wait I lied theres a lot but not extensive Roman / Cobalt interaction

we killed him night one in GTF Festivals mafia so not much meta in that game

and mmmmm he was on my wagon D2 of lewis carroll but that was a madasahat / artmetica game so that lynch was bullshit

LOTR was run by madasahat and artmetica was IN the game so lmfao not even looking there

Drag Race we were both town and he was chomping at the bit to see me lynched even though I was right about Barbeller the whole time. zzz.

after that there's nothing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 07, 2017, 06:55:12 pm
Someone remind me how to look up certain users' posts in isolation.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:55:28 pm
Forge/Cobalt scum makes more sense than jason/Cobalt does.

the fuck?

I haven't even interacted with Forge

hi Forge
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 06:56:08 pm
PC.

@Augustus

Lame.

Who's your top 3 mains?

Judging you super hard for this.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:57:06 pm
Someone remind me how to look up certain users' posts in isolation.

That's something JTM doesn't have yet. Needs it. Basically go to search, search their username, and choose to only look in the Game Threads forum.

That's the only way to do so.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:57:42 pm
@Cobalt has PS4?

And hasn't supplied his tag?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 06:58:47 pm
And more interestingly, @RadicalFuzz still hasn't checked in but is playing SFV.

Has time for one but not the other? DansGame

He's probably playing Birdie because he's dirtie.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 06:59:18 pm
He's probably playing Birdie because he's dirtie.

TRIGGERED
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 07, 2017, 07:00:04 pm
No Vote(11):Augustus, Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(2):Missing Person, vonvorto
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, Synonym
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 07:01:32 pm
I don't really see how me/Cobalt works better than jason/Cobalt either. Seems like a pretty important step you're missing, one you wouldn't have left off of the switch (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47031.html#msg47031) if you actually believed it

hi colby
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:02:18 pm
@Cobalt has PS4?

And hasn't supplied his tag?

itsJtotheT

Add me for Overwatch shenanigans.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:02:52 pm
I don't really see how me/Cobalt works better than jason/Cobalt either. Seems like a pretty important step you're missing, one you wouldn't have left off of the switch (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47031.html#msg47031) if you actually believed it

hi colby

also like where does it even come from cuz we had zero interaction so far?????

just for that I'm buddying Forge. Welcome to the towncircle Forge.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 07:03:37 pm
@vonvorto best way I can think of is clicking a user's name -> profile info -> show posts
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 07, 2017, 07:03:43 pm
Ha, I remembered that the games forum is number 3.

Gut read, Vote Registered For Missing Person.

Don't like the number of times he's self denigrated so far.

1. False.
2. Smells like a fake reason to back up an empty read and handwave it as gut.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 07, 2017, 07:04:13 pm
how do friends work
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 07, 2017, 07:04:37 pm
I wish I had friends who had Overwatch so I wouldn't have to buy it for myself. :/
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2017, 07:07:25 pm
@Augustus

Lame.

Who's your top 3 mains?

Judging you super hard for this.

Ana, Tracer, and then I dunno (mix of others).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:15:22 pm
Ana, Tracer, and then I dunno (mix of others).

Mmmm.

Acceptable.

I main Mercy but also run D.Va and Mei. Symmetra too situationally.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:15:35 pm
I wish I had friends who had Overwatch so I wouldn't have to buy it for myself. :/

Play with MEEEEE
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 07:17:59 pm
Filthy non-Lucio peasants.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 07:18:21 pm
I don't really see how me/Cobalt works better than jason/Cobalt either. Seems like a pretty important step you're missing, one you wouldn't have left off of the switch (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47031.html#msg47031) if you actually believed it

hi colby

It's the interactions.

Which makes this:

the fuck?

I haven't even interacted with Forge

hi Forge

Look like a stretch to get interaction with you so that I would think that it's accidental.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:24:16 pm
It's the interactions.

Which makes this:

Look like a stretch to get interaction with you so that I would think that it's accidental.

w h a t  interactions

we had none prior to you saying we were a potential team
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:26:12 pm
damn MP gonna need some muscle relaxers after all this reaching he's doing
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 07:27:44 pm
w h a t  interactions

we had none prior to you saying we were a potential team

I think that was my point? DansGame
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 07:31:51 pm
I think that was my point? DansGame

I don't get it.

:rip:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 07, 2017, 07:51:11 pm
So um, scrub post incomming. Please disregard.

Page 1 typical mafia page 1.
Page 2 was a pillow fight over a bag of stale Cheetos
Page 3 made me want to auto-vote MP.
This page (if it's stI'll 3) had me thinking we were nearing  deadline for some reason. No idea when it is/nub

So I'm gonna go look through the rules thread to see if I can get a handle on why people are playing funny.

PS - Cobalts hate of Alpha is genuine for some reason.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 07:51:23 pm
I don't get it.

:rip:

A sudden interaction with someone I'm FOSing you with right after I do so.

Something very obvious that people will shrug off as WIFOM, then you guys can call me a crackpot.

As always.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 07, 2017, 07:52:32 pm
Looks like autocorrect and I need to have a chat again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 07, 2017, 07:56:52 pm
I've missed playing with you, The Chief.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 07:59:36 pm
Basically, Cobalt case from me is this:

-Null on his vote on Alpha. He called that from pre-game.
-Null on his "attack" on Augustus if what he's saying is legitimate. I don't like meta nulls from other sites, but if it's legit, then null for sure.
-I say I don't like that post. DrWilgy jumps on me for that.
-If DrWilgy is mafia, then Cobalt is.

My list stands.

Synonym
Wilgy
Cobalt
Forge

In order of most to least.

Synonym does nothing to the rest of the list. But if Wilgy turns up scum, I'm content with following this list based on his interaction with me re: Cobalt as a spew. If I'm wrong about Forge/jason re: Cobalt then shoot me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 07, 2017, 08:00:17 pm
@jasonC It's been a while brother. About time we got these going again. Props to Bious.

I heard there was an SRK game that I missed. I probably couldn't have a played but would've been a nice homecoming.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:19:32 pm
PS - Cobalts hate of Alpha is genuine for some reason.

Did everyone just like, forget? Lmao.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:20:08 pm
Basically, Cobalt case from me is this:

-Null on his vote on Alpha. He called that from pre-game.
-Null on his "attack" on Augustus if what he's saying is legitimate. I don't like meta nulls from other sites, but if it's legit, then null for sure.
-I say I don't like that post. DrWilgy jumps on me for that.
-If DrWilgy is mafia, then Cobalt is.

My list stands.

Synonym
Wilgy
Cobalt
Forge

In order of most to least.

Synonym does nothing to the rest of the list. But if Wilgy turns up scum, I'm content with following this list based on his interaction with me re: Cobalt as a spew. If I'm wrong about Forge/jason re: Cobalt then shoot me.

ew this isn't even a case
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:20:35 pm
(http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2016/01/17/6358865180472733511677332949_reach.jpg)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:21:40 pm
A sudden interaction with someone I'm FOSing you with right after I do so.

Something very obvious that people will shrug off as WIFOM, then you guys can call me a crackpot.

As always.

Wait, what?????????

"Forge and Cobalt are w/w"

"Based off of what there are no interactions. now that you bring up the subject hi Forge"

"you just faked an interaction therein lies my point"

the fuck is MP smoking this game yall
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:27:45 pm
ew this isn't even a case

I know what Wilgy does as scum.

Twice with him together, and I know that this could easily be a spew.

That kind of kneejerk vote when the only thing he could grasp at was my logic on you.

Actually, thinking about it more...

He did try to nudge me onto you when I said he looked bad for defining his vote on my OP.

Doubtful he'd want it to go to scum/scum with you later. The only way he wins that gambit is if he gets flipped scum, and I doubt you'd allow for that.

So you may actually be a meta townread here then.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:28:41 pm
Slight, but I'll be watching more to see if there's a reason I'm wrong to townread you off of Wilgy.

If that's the case, my FOS reverts to

Synonym
DrWilgy
Forge/jasonC
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:34:08 pm
Also, if Wilgy were to flip town, then I'd say you're 70% town at least, pending changes in the game later.

It would just mean his vote for me was just irrevocably bad.

I just don't see it, I don't believe he could make that vote and post the reasoning, catch my ire, then dangle someone else in front of me and NOT be scum.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:34:42 pm
I'm almost ready to vote Wilgy. Anyone else game?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:35:19 pm
Also, if Wilgy is scum, then I'm wondering if he thought of it himself to dangle someone in front of me knowing I tunnel, or someone else told him to do so.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:36:17 pm
And if it's the latter, then I really want to look at Synonym and jasonC next.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 09:50:19 pm
MP is trying way too hard to be scum. :rip:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 09:59:06 pm
@Cobalt, do you disagree on Wilgy?

Give me your angle here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 10:00:33 pm
Oh yeah, I'll bring this up later. If this goes to the 24th somehow, my interaction will be limited for three days. Gonna be in Indianapolis doing coverage for SRK on Naptown Clutch.

Just FYI.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 10:02:03 pm
@Cobalt, do you disagree on Wilgy?

Give me your angle here.

I mean, decent substance I guess?

But I think you might also be jesus toasting a bit.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 10:14:28 pm
I mean, decent substance I guess?

But I think you might also be jesus toasting a bit.

What parts could I be toasting on?

What are your thoughts so far with Syn as well?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 10:14:55 pm
Might as well add von to the list, I have little experience with him and would like to hear from people who have played with him more.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 07, 2017, 10:24:29 pm
Slight, but I'll be watching more to see if there's a reason I'm wrong to townread you off of Wilgy.

If that's the case, my FOS reverts to

Synonym
DrWilgy
Forge/jasonC

Is Forge/jasonC XOR or OR?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 07, 2017, 10:49:04 pm
has willy every been an opponent of team too much work? i don't remember

null read on MP. he talks a lot, which means he says more things that bother me than someone with less posts, but I can't find anything in particular that seems scummy. Though his change from "it's either Forge or Jason" to "Wilgy's annoying me so it must be Forge" is kinda awk

I don't like Alpha, but that's because he's not entertaining enough

Yeah, honestly its been one of my gotos for day one, but the real reason is its just so easy to fixate on that day 1. Also when I had passion, I was on this thread basically all day, even putting it ahead of work usually. Just not quite like that right now. We'll see, old habits die hard and all
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 07, 2017, 11:06:05 pm
Is Forge/jasonC XOR or OR?
Or

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 11:07:40 pm
I know what Wilgy does as scum.

Twice with him together, and I know that this could easily be a spew.

That kind of kneejerk vote when the only thing he could grasp at was my logic on you.

Actually, thinking about it more...

He did try to nudge me onto you when I said he looked bad for defining his vote on my OP.

Doubtful he'd want it to go to scum/scum with you later. The only way he wins that gambit is if he gets flipped scum, and I doubt you'd allow for that.

So you may actually be a meta townread here then.

I think you may just be looking too far into things and confbiasing a bit. You've gone into this thinking Wilgy is scum and now everything he does has that tint to it. Try to think more objectively. Out loud, if you don't mind.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 07, 2017, 11:09:01 pm
@Missing Person

As far as Syn goes, I agree with Von in this post:

 http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47067.html#msg47067

Light townread on Von for it as well. Because he was echoing what I thought of Syn's post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 07, 2017, 11:26:26 pm
I'm here now. Talk to meeee.

Even though no one fucking listens to me anyway. Trying to prod to get info. You know, actually playing mafia.
So nothing ever said to me is important?
Like a shot to the heart.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk



Literally all page 1 posts. All of these are talking yourself down, reducing expectations and trotting out the tired and over-used "woe is me, I'm a mafia vet but no-one cares to listen." This isn't a play exclusive to you, but it is a play. It was also pg 1 and a D1 vote, most of which are garbage with so little to go on. And yet, it prompted FIVE posts by you immediately defending yourself and concluding that I'm scum from two sentences. That sets off my clue-dar something chronic.

So yeah, if he wants to say that I've self-denigrated, then he's clearly not reading the thread and giving only a speed-read at that, then he's just auto-piloting an easy D1 bandwagon that has already started.

Only read up to the bottom of pg 3 but yeah, five reactionary posts to three people voting you on D1 is kinda suspicious IMO. Let's see what page 4 and 5 bring.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 11:36:20 pm
Also, if Wilgy were to flip town, then I'd say you're 70% town at least, pending changes in the game later.

It would just mean his vote for me was just irrevocably bad.

I just don't see it, I don't believe he could make that vote and post the reasoning, catch my ire, then dangle someone else in front of me and NOT be scum.
Wat? How does me being town mean a 70% on cobalt being town.

Me being town means I'm in no relation to Cobalt. Unless I say someone is civ, why would you relate us?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 07, 2017, 11:38:48 pm
Page 4 and 5 synopsis: Too many people talking about potential alliances that they can exploit later on in the game.

Chief is fucking back (and kinda agreed with me?)

Also with MP it wasn't a huge scumread but you went turbo retard over two sentences and I'm somehow still your mainstay pick?

Who the hell is Vonvorto?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 07, 2017, 11:39:47 pm
Fuck, I really wanted to spend D1 not tunnelling anyone and now all of my fucking clues keep focusing on MP.

:(

@jasonC What's good?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 07, 2017, 11:44:23 pm
I guess what my biggest problem with you now MP is the fact that you are a sith.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 01:17:20 am
Fuck, I really wanted to spend D1 not tunnelling anyone and now all of my fucking clues keep focusing on MP.

:(

@jasonC What's good?

Sup? Kumbaya? Maybe look at Cyntalan?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 01:26:22 am
He's the only person who's introduction made me go "meh, I Can vote for this"
Y tho

I didn't find it scummy, more so I didn't feel bad voting for it. There was no "nah" in my brain.

As a day 1 vote this explanation works for me, I guess *shrug*.

What do you think of Forge's JC vote?

I don't think too much of it atm.

She might try and distance herself from him early on since (iirc) she's been lynched before for agreeing/buddying with him before. It's to early to draw that conclusion though.

He's probably playing Birdie because he's dirtie.

Birdie is all class ya wanker!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 01:31:22 am
One of the fun things about playing here is rereading the thread and seeing how people reacted to posts.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 01:48:55 am
how do friends work

Why does this post stick out awkwardly? Oh hey, so I learned a term from another site called "shroop" lol. Guess what the first two letters stand for - Scott Howard! (let's not use shroop here please, but it basically means awkward posting is scummy)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 08, 2017, 01:52:22 am
Why does this post stick out awkwardly? Oh hey, so I learned a term from another site called "shroop" lol. Guess what the first two letters stand for - Scott Howard! (let's not use shroop here please, but it basically means awkward posting is scummy)

you're welcome for the host when you learned that ;)

btw, shroop: scott howard's rule of odd posting

it's basically that mafia are more likely to go back and edit their posts to be careful of their wording and what they say, so if something is worded oddly or awkwardly it was probably a flub in editing and more likely scummy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 08, 2017, 01:53:02 am
that was @ everyone else who might wanna know

my favorite new word being thrown around MU is "spicy" :eli:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 02:02:01 am
Syn points out MP self-denigration.
MP says, "lies!"
Von asks how to isolate posts.
Von agrees.
Cobalt calls Von town because Cobalt agrees as well.
Syn quotes MP self-denigration posts from page 1.

Conclusion? - None of you fuckers are reading the thread lol.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 08, 2017, 02:06:54 am
Syn points out MP self-denigration.
MP says, "lies!"
Von asks how to isolate posts.
Von agrees.
Cobalt calls Von town because Cobalt agrees as well.
Syn quotes MP self-denigration posts from page 1.

Conclusion? - None of you fuckers are reading the thread lol.

what exactly aren't we reading?

looks like a push from Syn only for the reason that it's an easy push to make. and a pretty weak one imo
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 02:19:50 am
what exactly aren't we reading?

looks like a push from Syn only for the reason that it's an easy push to make. and a pretty weak one imo
Wat.

I made a vote on MP based literally on one page of text that felt off. It somehow spiralled into MP ranting and making me suspect number one.

I don't give a shit whether we Lynch him or not but I'm not wrong. I made a claim, got called out on my "false news" and now I have provided evidence of what set my gut off.

Y'all can judge it for yourselves but it's not a train or even a push. I just don't like people blatantly lying.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 02:20:11 am
Von pretended to iso but didn't read MP's posts before saying "False" to Syn's claim that MP self-denigrated.
You didn't read MP's posts either before saying you agree with Von.
MP doesn't read/remember half of what he posts.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 02:35:51 am
PS - Cobalts hate of Alpha is genuine for some reason.

All I'm gonna say is that Alpha made a tasteless joke (outside of JTM standards that is  :votebot:) that made Cobalt leave the site for some time. So I can assure you that it's genuine. (Genuine enough to back up his vote at least)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 03:15:26 am
It was so tasteless, vegans wouldn't eat it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 05:08:42 am
Did everyone just like, forget? Lmao.

Told you. I'm a scrub. I know nothing anymore.

Flying completely blind and hoping instincts will take over at some point.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 05:29:08 am
So I speed read the rules and didn't see a description for roles. Maybe I missed a post but my intent is to get an explanation for the shenanigans so far.

Despite my early read, some people still get a veteran pass from me.

My motivation this game is to successfully lynch mafia every phase with no casualties. Since I got bumped from #1 on the leaderboards I need to new reason to push as hard as I use to.

...and @vonvorto. What are you?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 05:35:13 am
So I speed read the rules and didn't see a description for roles. Maybe I missed a post but my intent is to get an explanation for the shenanigans so far.

Quote
Civs:
Roleless Civ: You are an ordinary, run-of-the-mill spy.
White Spy (UC: Every night may investigate to determine which side they are on and if they are grey or not.)
James Bond (Vigi; Only active when Valentine is Night-Killed, 3 Shots only.)
Solid Snake (Tracker: Every night may pick a player to follow to determine if they use an action or not.)
Nurse Valentine (Medic: At night may choose a player to protect from a night kill, cannot protect herself.)
Red Spy (Cupid, before game begins picks two players to be lovers.)


Mafia:
Black Spy (Mafia Leader: Decides which member kills at night. Comes up Civ if targeted by UC.)
Black Bomberman (T4T: If targeted by a lynch will kill one player of his choosing. If killed at night will kill whoever killed him.)
Pinkie Pie (Forger. Target's a player at night. If that targeted played is targeted by the UC the UC's results will be reversed. If Pinkie targets is a grey the UC will not be told if they are grey or not.)
Garcian Smith (Enforcer. Target's a player at night. That player, if they use an action, will have their action blocked.)


Grey Side:

Grey Spy (Cult Leader, recruits a player of her choosing to her side every night without their knowing; wins automatically when she has all of the remaining players on her side, if targeted by any effect that would kill her one of her recruits will die in her place (one time only). If searched comes up civ.)


Others:

Lovers (Chosen by Cupid. If both are civilian they'll win if the civilians win. If one is Mafia and One civilian they only win if the Mafia wins, but if one dies the other dies and they both lose no matter who wins. If both are Mafia they win if Mafia wins, but if one dies the Mafia gains one free night kill next night phase.)

Black Widow (Third party traitor. At night she can choose to reveal herself to any player. If she reveals herself to Mafia she will join their side and gain one kill she may use at the end of the night phase. If she reveals herself to anyone else they will be told of her role.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 05:41:07 am
@Blindknagg
Ty. I was looking for role card. lol
Scrub conformed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 08, 2017, 06:32:24 am
I also don't get this.

I thought we were just throwin' out votes at random. (https://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/4/1/shrug.001.gif)

Admittedly, I did heavily weigh TGG just 'cause his nick still irks the shit out of me. (http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 08, 2017, 06:46:41 am


Why does this post stick out awkwardly? Oh hey, so I learned a term from another site called "shroop" lol. Guess what the first two letters stand for - Scott Howard! (let's not use shroop here please, but it basically means awkward posting is scummy)

Was trying to ask Cobalt what being a friend means in this context. I can't really trust him, even if I am leaning towards him being town, because I could be wrong. Same goes for anyone. Surely he knows that, hence asking what he meant

On mobile and in a rush so I can't quote it, but I didn't like Willy's response :( if he's pressed for time, I'd rather he made some contribution instead of giving a lengthy answer to my question. There's no real posts with his thoughts to criticize tho, so I'm not sure

Alpha still has done nothing. Come on man my popcorn is getting stale
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 07:06:31 am
You're welcome Chief.

I thought we were just throwin' out votes at random. (https://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/4/1/shrug.001.gif)

What gave you that impression?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 08, 2017, 07:08:52 am
Did someone tell you to vote at random? :o
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 08, 2017, 07:11:28 am
You're welcome Chief.

What gave you that impression?

Between the talk of auto-votes and the fact that several other people were throwin' votes out there for no reason (Alpha's RadicalFuzz vote notwithstanding)? Seemed like we were all throwin' shit on the wall and seeing what sticks.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 07:16:06 am
Fair enough. I guess.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 07:27:09 am
The first post Synonym quoted read as tongue-in-cheek, and the second one was clearly a joke.

@The Chief

Town.

What were you hoping to accomplish with this question?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 07:29:58 am
Oh, I just realized that people recruited into the Cult aren't made aware of it.

I've actually been that role before offsite. I'm guessing the Cultist's victory immediately ends the game, which is kind of rotten.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 08:00:26 am
Well, read what I missed and now I'm bored.

Anyway, Alpha still not doing anything. Though I recall he forced himself to make reads and they ended up looking unnatural last time he woofed. So... woofin' again with low WIM or he has an important role and wants to not draw attention upon himself.

loooooool, kill him, wolves.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 08:01:00 am
Between the talk of auto-votes and the fact that several other people were throwin' votes out there for no reason (Alpha's RadicalFuzz vote notwithstanding)? Seemed like we were all throwin' shit on the wall and seeing what sticks.

Make a read, bro.

Anything.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 08:02:25 am
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

For now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 08:05:54 am
Probs need more pressure on the slankers than those who are actively posting right now. Though I guess that would require them to show up first. Go figure.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 08:30:06 am
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(2):Missing Person, vonvorto
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, Synonym
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
DrWilgy(1):Augustus
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 08, 2017, 08:33:43 am
@Bious

What result does the UC get if he investigates the Grey Spy the same night the Grey Spy is forged?
Can the tracker track the Mafia night kill?

1. Mafia.
2. Yes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 09:18:08 am
How many of you guys are use to getting lynched day 1?

Or maybe I should ask...

Which of the folks currently getting picked on are not surprised?

@vonvorto Just trying to a line of communication. I will say you're response kind of surprised me though. Don't know if we've played together before but you seem like you have talent.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 09:21:22 am
I promise you guys my spelling and grammar really isn't that bad.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 08, 2017, 09:59:38 am
Still not really getting a strong vibe on anybody, some of you seem to be reaching extra hard to have something to latch onto, but I'm not entirely sure the motives behind it yet. Most of us likely haven't played a mafia game in a year or however long its been, rust is definitely a factor. In the past I would have latched onto a particularly shitty day 1 check in post and tunneled onto them, but I'm trying to change. I'm like Jules in Pulp Fiction after he witnessed the miracle, trying real hard Ringo.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 12:22:02 pm
@cyntalan any reason you're lynching a no show instead of someone who's here?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 12:26:26 pm
http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10

>last active time
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 12:30:17 pm
Wat? How does me being town mean a 70% on cobalt being town.

Me being town means I'm in no relation to Cobalt. Unless I say someone is civ, why would you relate us?

You releated the two of you via your vote based on my 1st post IMO.

Literally all page 1 posts. All of these are talking yourself down, reducing expectations and trotting out the tired and over-used "woe is me, I'm a mafia vet but no-one cares to listen." This isn't a play exclusive to you, but it is a play. It was also pg 1 and a D1 vote, most of which are garbage with so little to go on. And yet, it prompted FIVE posts by you immediately defending yourself and concluding that I'm scum from two sentences. That sets off my clue-dar something chronic.

Only read up to the bottom of pg 3 but yeah, five reactionary posts to three people voting you on D1 is kinda suspicious IMO. Let's see what page 4 and 5 bring.

Chiding me for a couple joke posts, and not chiding Alpha for posting nothing but is not only hypocritical, but telling.

Well, read what I missed and now I'm bored.

Anyway, Alpha still not doing anything. Though I recall he forced himself to make reads and they ended up looking unnatural last time he woofed. So... woofin' again with low WIM or he has an important role and wants to not draw attention upon himself.

loooooool, kill him, wolves.

I get this. I actually like this post.  But then this:

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

For now.

So why vote Wilgy when you think Alpha is playing low key scum?

Also this play is highly indicative of how @Cyntalan plays scum, FMPOV.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 12:32:56 pm
http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10

>last active time

My dear lord.

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 12:33:46 pm
Until @RadicalFuzz gets in here and does something, that's where my vote is.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 08, 2017, 12:47:45 pm
http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10

>last active time

lol

If this shit keeps up I might actually join your day 1 wagon for once.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 12:50:01 pm
Fuzz knows how Wallflowers are treated here.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 01:00:05 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, Synonym
RadicalFuzz(2):✰Alpha✰, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
DrWilgy(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 01:04:20 pm
Boo, activity stalking.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 01:05:36 pm
Hm? I was basically saying that Alpha's play so far isn't really what I expect from his wolf game. Totally guessing on that though.

Obviously will not be pleased if he carries on with whatever he's doing right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 01:08:03 pm
Predicting at least 2 inactivity dq's. Lettuce see.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 01:16:23 pm
Hm? I was basically saying that Alpha's play so far isn't really what I expect from his wolf game. Totally guessing on that though.

Obviously will not be pleased if he carries on with whatever he's doing right now.

I might have misunderstood that post then.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 08, 2017, 01:17:51 pm
@jason what do you think of Wilgy? Just curious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 01:26:44 pm
Hey guys. Nice to see you too.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 01:31:51 pm
I'm gonna be pretty busy this weekend, tournament all day Saturday and then work a good amount of the other two. Please don't crucify me for that. Crucifying me for other reasons is less questionable, so go for it! :)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 01:58:45 pm
Not even subtle.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 08, 2017, 02:15:17 pm
You releated the two of you via your vote based on my 1st post IMO.
So let me get this right. You see me relative to cobalt so that if I flip civ, there's a 70% chance cobalt is civ? And that is based on my vote? My vote somehow determines cobalt's alignment?

How many of you guys are use to getting lynched day 1?
I am, it's happened quite a few times here and on syndicate.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 02:27:31 pm
@DrWilgy -I'm wondering if that has anything to do with the "Im a dr" messages.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 08, 2017, 02:39:47 pm
I don't think that has impacted much considering both communities know of it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 02:51:57 pm
So let me get this right. You see me relative to cobalt so that if I flip civ, there's a 70% chance cobalt is civ? And that is based on my vote? My vote somehow determines cobalt's alignment?

Actually, I believe Cobalt is civ either way at the moment.

But the reason what you did leads me to believe that he's town is the way he pushed me toward inspecting him after you drew heat from me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 08, 2017, 03:01:25 pm
I don't think that has impacted much considering both communities know of it.

Considering what I've seen happen to some players, you might not be taking mafia strategy in to account.

I voted RF off on day 1 because I promised Alpha I would. You're technically not suppose to vote RF just because Alpha said so... but if you're mafia... eh... why not.

Nah'meen?

Anyway. I appreciate you answering rough. A mafia who is getting picked on wouldn't want to answer a question like that because it would draw in too much attention to them. IMO (scrub logic)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 05:11:13 pm
Not even subtle.

When, in your long, painful history of acquaintance with me, have I ever been subtle? Successfully.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 08, 2017, 06:08:42 pm
Just got home from work and now I'm rested. Gonna re-read the last 2 pages, scimmed through them at work.

For now, the only things i noticed: Alpha's post seem to be post for the sake of posts which is a scum blending in technique.
Same could be said for Cyntalan but on a smaller scale, but it could just testing the waters since they are new here.
MP seems all over the place, go back to tunneling you're easier to read that way.

This is based on the first 3 pages and a quick read of the last 2.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 08, 2017, 06:21:01 pm
Forge/Cobalt scum makes more sense than jason/Cobalt does.

I think I get where you were trying to go with this line of reasoning but it was a bit of a long reach. It seems early for the whole they haven't interacted much argument. I also get the whole you interacted with forge as soon as i mentioned it thing too. It still seems like you're forcing it.

@Augustus I don't understand you're sudden vote wilgy after what seemed like a push for Alpha
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 06:29:10 pm
Scum between Fuzz and Alpha.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 08, 2017, 06:33:05 pm
I'm gonna be pretty busy this weekend, tournament all day Saturday and then work a good amount of the other two. Please don't crucify me for that. Crucifying me for other reasons is less questionable, so go for it! :)

But its not the weekend yet... What are you're thoughts on the game so far?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 08, 2017, 06:36:35 pm
6 Pages already? fuck...what's my role?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 08, 2017, 06:40:22 pm
Considering what I've seen happen to some players, you might not be taking mafia strategy in to account.

I voted RF off on day 1 because I promised Alpha I would.

This reminds me, I'm pretty sure Dr.Wilgy promised me his vote for something awesome I did in a game as long ass time ago. Then the game he was supposed to deliver he was a heel and ignored my request for his vote.You still owe me a vote to be cashed in at my convenience... or not I'm not the boss of you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 08, 2017, 06:43:44 pm
This reminds me, I'm pretty sure Dr.Wilgy promised me his vote for something awesome I did in a game as long ass time ago. Then the game he was supposed to deliver he was a heel and ignored my request for his vote.You still owe me a vote to be cashed in at my convenience... or not I'm not the boss of you.
Goddammit, I forgot about this.

Kay, who am I voting for? I'd prefer to leave it on mp currently. Any of the wallflowers would also be great.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 06:43:57 pm
6 Pages already? fuck...what's my role?

Screencap it and post it here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 08, 2017, 06:55:47 pm
Goddammit, I forgot about this.

Kay, who am I voting for? I'd prefer to leave it on mp currently. Any of the wallflowers would also be great.

For now play your game. I want your vote to mean something. If I don't cash it by day 3, you're free I guess
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 06:58:38 pm
So nearly everybody I want to vote for has a vote on them. And Forge is on jasonC who I'm 50/50 on between the former and the latter.

I'm thinking I should probably vote with my biggest town read, which happens to be on my second biggest scum read.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 07:00:04 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(2):DrWilgy, Synonym
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 07:08:17 pm
@Augustus I don't understand you're sudden vote wilgy after what seemed like a push for Alpha

I didn't really push him though. Not today anyway.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 07:14:37 pm
6 Pages already? fuck...what's my role?

Just check the mafia thread homie.

So nearly everybody I want to vote for has a vote on them. And Forge is on jasonC who I'm 50/50 on between the former and the latter.

I'm thinking I should probably vote with my biggest town read, which happens to be on my second biggest scum read.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

You probably want to ask Wiggles for some Adderall, because you're all over the place.

Vote Registered For Reiraku
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 07:21:38 pm
Just check the mafia thread homie.

You probably want to ask Wiggles for some Adderall, because you're all over the place.

Vote Registered For Reiraku

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8443459966_d31aef5d41_z.jpg)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 07:25:17 pm
@jason what do you think of Wilgy? Just curious

Null. It's nice to see him more active than usual. Everyone is decently active aside from TGG. Another thing I learned on another site is "rwstfo" aka "rand wolf sub the fuck out" lol. TGG has does this at least once before I believe
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 07:28:26 pm
Oh and Fuzz is pretty horrible lol.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 07:30:05 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Reiraku(1):Synonym
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 07:30:39 pm
Everyone is decently active aside from TGG.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8CXeJUw8--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wfnukbtzakkvu9tb6cc6.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 07:37:45 pm
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8443459966_d31aef5d41_z.jpg)

Just want to see if he'll grace us with his presence again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 07:38:41 pm
Just want to see if he'll grace us with his presence again.

Valid point.

Don't worry, I'll get back to you later, pumpkin.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 08, 2017, 07:39:08 pm

I'm thinking I should probably vote with my biggest town read, which happens to be on my second biggest scum read.

Isn't that conveniently tragic

Null. It's nice to see him more active than usual. Everyone is decently active aside from TGG. Another thing I learned on another site is "rwstfo" aka "rand wolf sub the fuck out" lol. TGG has does this at least once before I believe

No opinion about his content, specifically? It seems to me mostly people with low content to post ratios bother you (Fuzz, Alpha, Willy), yeah? How do you feel about Wilgy in that group?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 08, 2017, 07:41:29 pm
I ask because I feel the same about those people, and I was wondering if I was missing some connection you might've seen in how they relate to others
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 08:00:45 pm
Well, since I was asked. Here I am. My lack of posting is mainly due to inexperience (my only complete game was on SRK. Alpha can tell you how that went.)

I'm inclined to vote along with MP, since he put me as a town read. If he were scum, I think he'd try and make an easy case out of me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 08, 2017, 08:02:09 pm
Hmm I didn't say anything about alpha yet. The only post thamade me feel something was the ^^. Was he agreeing with me or making a smiley face? I didn't care enough to ask. In general he is kinda Lynch bait so mp's vote on him isn't a good look.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 08:06:12 pm
Valid point.

Don't worry, I'll get back to you later, pumpkin.

(https://i.imgur.com/tZxcKJw.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 08:08:06 pm
Well, since I was asked. Here I am. My lack of posting is mainly due to inexperience (my only complete game was on SRK. Alpha can tell you how that went.)

I'm inclined to vote along with MP, since he put me as a town read. If he were scum, I think he'd try and make an easy case out of me.

The only way you'll get better is to play. So MP calling you town has swayed you? Fuck, you must be a really easy date.

So, from what you've seen so far who would you say feels the most disingenuous. You don't have to provide posts, I just want your top 3.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 08, 2017, 08:12:13 pm
After my long ass hiatus, I'm back playing (mostly because Bious asked me)

I've skimmed over the past couple of pages and I've noted a couple of things:

Alpha is playing too reserved, and that's not a good sign.

There's too many wallflowers and while it may be OK to not say much at the start because there's almost nothing to go on, it'll become problematic

Chief playing the noob card is suspect...

And I forgot how to place my vote LOL

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 08:14:51 pm
Honestly, jasonC from how aggressive he came in, but I'm going more and more away from that. He might just be stirring things up to agitate someone into giving something away.

Fuzz, because he was completely silent but active. From what I gather, the less we know, the better it is for the mafia to pick us off. Being quiet is a means of avoiding attention.

And the third is yourself. But I put that in the same category as jasonC.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 08:20:17 pm
Honestly, jasonC from how aggressive he came in, but I'm going more and more away from that. He might just be stirring things up to agitate someone into giving something away.

Fuzz, because he was completely silent but active. From what I gather, the less we know, the better it is for the mafia to pick us off. Being quiet is a means of avoiding attention.

And the third is yourself. But I put that in the same category as jasonC.

Explain the waxing and waning of the Synonym read.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 08:27:16 pm
Syn went from another person to me, seemingly out of nowhere. Moving suspicion onto a relatively easier target would be a scum move in my book, but again, I'm not sure if he's just doing it to get more activity to make better reads.

I have a lot to learn when it comes to this game, it seems.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 08:30:11 pm
Syn went from another person to me, seemingly out of nowhere. Moving suspicion onto a relatively easier target would be a scum move in my book, but again, I'm not sure if he's just doing it to get more activity to make better reads.

I have a lot to learn when it comes to this game, it seems.

It's either/or with him, he's a very smart player on both sides.

I just don't like the precedent where he's latched onto me in some way whenever he's been mafia where I'm town.

So that's where I sit. I know he could be switching it up, but it just smells to me right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 08:38:56 pm
I'm inclined to vote along with MP, since he put me as a town read.

I was about to slam this, but the theoretical logic behind this checks out for Day 1 and Day 1 only.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 08:41:06 pm
I was about to slam this, but the theoretical logic behind this checks out for Day 1 and Day 1 only.

Go on...
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 08:42:59 pm
But its not the weekend yet... What are you're thoughts on the game so far?

Lots of people talking, not many listening. Small conflicts rising up and pairings being made. MP, for instance, thinks he's the second coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Noodlehead and likes to put people in buckets of "one scum among A, B, & C"

And Jason, why am I horrible? D:
You're the Necalli player here, if anything the onus is on you to explain your life choices.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 08:47:28 pm
Lots of people talking, not many listening. Small conflicts rising up and pairings being made. MP, for instance, thinks he's the second coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Noodlehead and likes to put people in buckets of "one scum among A, B, & C"

And Jason, why am I horrible? D:
You're the Necalli player here, if anything the onus is on you to explain your life choices.



That was actually Pimp Willy, and I'm not telling you guys to vote down the list of those either/ors immediately. I'm putting my notes in the thread for later, so that I can further deduce them later based on tone.

That and I love to stream of consciousness.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 08:48:59 pm
There's no fucking way we're going to find 50/50s on day one to be an appeasing lynch.  We may HAVE to, but I'd rather hear more.

Hell, they could still actually be 0/0s later.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 08:56:00 pm
Go on...

Trustworthy players are ones that identify Civs and Mafia correctly. In a Day 1 scenario, if you're Civ and someone identifies you as a Civ, you know they have 1 confirmed Civ and a bunch of unknowns. The real fun starts when people start dying, where you get to see who was right and wrong in their accusations. This is why a Mafioso's theoretical best play is to correctly identify as many players as possible, which conflicts with their win condition.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 09:01:45 pm
Well, since I was asked. Here I am. My lack of posting is mainly due to inexperience (my only complete game was on SRK. Alpha can tell you how that went.)

I'm inclined to vote along with MP, since he put me as a town read. If he were scum, I think he'd try and make an easy case out of me.

Hi. I'm going to townread you now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 09:07:21 pm
No it was Noodlehead, I'm certain of that. Pimp might've used a similar concept or figured out how Noodlehead did it, but it is a Noodlehead specialty™.

Semantics, but it bugs me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 09:09:57 pm
It's either/or with him, he's a very smart player on both sides.

I just don't like the precedent where he's latched onto me in some way whenever he's been mafia where I'm town.

So that's where I sit. I know he could be switching it up, but it just smells to me right now.
Or, y'know, it was because you jumped up to 11 off of a post about really nothing.

I'm trying my best not to just tunnel you D1 because I want to at least look at the whole playing field.

And my vote switch magically worked so I wouldn't say it was a complete loss.

@rei if you keep posting I'll be very happy. Only way to improve.

Vote Registered For TGG

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 09:11:41 pm
Hi. I'm going to townread you now.

I have a new entrant to my top 3 suspicious list.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 09:13:02 pm
@Augustus @Cobalt

How is von's townreading ability?

Just curious-desu.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 08, 2017, 09:20:56 pm
I dunno.

I believe he's decent at reading Cobalt, but that's about all I know.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 09:30:04 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, Synonym
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 09:30:19 pm
I have a new entrant to my top 3 suspicious list.

;)

---

I've had some shitty reads in my last game, but that was more or less because the town decided it would be fun to implode on itself.

Y'all are chill and will probably be easier to read.

If someone wants to contest with Cobalt/Augustus/MP/Reiraku being town, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'll just keep doing my thing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 09:31:18 pm
DrWilgy is an exception.

I remember I can't read him for shit.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 09:38:09 pm
I just feel like that's too large a town list too early.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 09:39:39 pm
What are everyone's time zones if not USA, by the way? Wanna get a list and put them in my phone so I don't get annoyed if I don't get a response in their midnight hours. I know Alpha/Syn are Aussie & BK is...Swiss, right?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 09:41:05 pm
Given with my limited knowledge...

Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX

Unless they come in with a good reason why not.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 09:44:30 pm
What would a "good reason why not" entail? Pointing the finger at someone else, saying they were indisposed previously, etc?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 09:47:19 pm
What are everyone's time zones if not USA, by the way? Wanna get a list and put them in my phone so I don't get annoyed if I don't get a response in their midnight hours. I know Alpha/Syn are Aussie & BK is...Swiss, right?

He's Swedish you cunt. @Blindknagg, vote this sucka out.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 09:48:58 pm
FUCK I keep thinking he's Swiss. My B.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 08, 2017, 09:49:51 pm
I just feel like that's too large a town list too early.

So think of them as "would rather not lynch D1" reads.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 08, 2017, 09:58:16 pm
FUCK I keep thinking he's Swiss. My B.

Don't worry.

Same time next game?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 09:59:28 pm
Probably, unfortunately.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 08, 2017, 10:03:33 pm
Speaking of unfortunate it's time for rest. Adios y buenos noches
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 08, 2017, 10:24:47 pm
That was actually Pimp Willy, and I'm not telling you guys to vote down the list of those either/ors immediately. I'm putting my notes in the thread for later, so that I can further deduce them later based on tone.

That and I love to stream of consciousness.

Hey, I gave up Necalli for Balrog when he dropped. Now that he's apparently the hotness in S2, I guess that worked out.

No it was Noodlehead, I'm certain of that. Pimp might've used a similar concept or figured out how Noodlehead did it, but it is a Noodlehead specialty™.

Semantics, but it bugs me.

Ah, you mean the method of isolating people into buckets. Yeah that was Noodleheads process, I tried to implement it and codify it. There is definitely some logic to it, but I never found it to be the gospel he did.

For now, I'll stick with the one person who stuck out to me so far, @The Chief
I don't even have anything concrete, its just a gut feeling.
Vote Registered For The Chief

Im not married to the vote, but thats where my head is at now
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 10:30:04 pm
No Vote(9):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, Synonym
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 08, 2017, 10:33:15 pm
Hmmm. Don't like having Rei and Cynt on the same vote as me.

Vote Registered For Cyntalan
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 08, 2017, 11:00:04 pm
No Vote(9):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Cyntalan(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 08, 2017, 11:22:26 pm
Also, I don't know how to vote, apparently.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 08, 2017, 11:32:55 pm
[ v ] RadicalFuzz [ /v ]

(No spaces, only works with the name RadicalFuzz.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 12:27:40 am
Reminder: Day Phase ends at 8 PM EST today!

When I wake up I'll look for a timer.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 09, 2017, 01:31:03 am
BK is...Swiss, right?

(https://img.ifcdn.com/images/33814e2a92f76f19e031287843d2de38823a2e439ceeb0f00e330c090c95ed49_1.jpg)

He's Swedish you cunt. @Blindknagg, vote this sucka out.

I'm seriously starting to consider it now.

If someone wants to contest with Cobalt/Augustus/MP/Reiraku being town, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'll just keep doing my thing.

Why are those four in particular coming of as town to you?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 03:54:58 am
Vote Registered For ZOOLANDER

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 04:00:05 am
No Vote(9):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Cyntalan
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 05:18:49 am
Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 05:30:04 am
No Vote(8):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:06:02 am
I dunno.

I believe he's decent at reading Cobalt, but that's about all I know.
^
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:06:45 am
I feel like Von's home site meta has them making snap townreads that sometimes bite them in the ass later.

But usually he makes pretty good decisions. He never does anything for no reason.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:08:36 am
;)

---

I've had some shitty reads in my last game, but that was more or less because the town decided it would be fun to implode on itself.

Y'all are chill and will probably be easier to read.

If someone wants to contest with Cobalt/Augustus/MP/Reiraku being town, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'll just keep doing my thing.

I actually super agree with this townblock tho. Include Von and I would not lynch any of those toDay.

Roman's been feeling good surprisingly.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:10:45 am
DrWilgy is an exception.

I remember I can't read him for shit.
The struggle is real.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:11:08 am
but yeah anyway sorry I slept for like 14 hours. When is EoD?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:11:35 am
8pm. Splendid.

Leggo.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:13:52 am
Trustworthy players are ones that identify Civs and Mafia correctly. In a Day 1 scenario, if you're Civ and someone identifies you as a Civ, you know they have 1 confirmed Civ and a bunch of unknowns. The real fun starts when people start dying, where you get to see who was right and wrong in their accusations. This is why a Mafioso's theoretical best play is to correctly identify as many players as possible, which conflicts with their win condition.

Makes sense in regards to Reiraku's post and how a civilian would feel as though MP is trustworthy for correctly identify them.

But I dislike when Alpha gets explainy. It makes me paranoid.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 07:19:03 am
Lots of people talking, not many listening. Small conflicts rising up and pairings being made. MP, for instance, thinks he's the second coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Noodlehead and likes to put people in buckets of "one scum among A, B, & C"

And Jason, why am I horrible? D:
You're the Necalli player here, if anything the onus is on you to explain your life choices.

I dropped necalli months ago. I now dabble in the spinning mixer mix-up. FPSG had the best post pointing out that it isn't the weekend yet but you made an excuse to not be active then.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 07:38:48 am
;)

---

I've had some shitty reads in my last game, but that was more or less because the town decided it would be fun to implode on itself.

Y'all are chill and will probably be easier to read.

If someone wants to contest with Cobalt/Augustus/MP/Reiraku being town, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'll just keep doing my thing.

Town MP super tunneled you in the last game here. This game he is like anti-tunneling on purpose. What is your read based on?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 07:42:13 am
Hm

I like reiraku too. Seems like he's trying anyway

What are the thoughts on lynching a no show? Do we wait for them to DQ themselves and not waste votes? Do we get them out of the way now? I think the former makes more sense. I doubt TGG is actually going to show up, and we wouldn't learn much from it (except now with this post, I guess)

+sus syn

Also fuzz, BK's not rich enough to live in Switzerland
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:45:09 am
For now, I'll stick with the one person who stuck out to me so far, @The Chief
I don't even have anything concrete, its just a gut feeling.
Vote Registered For The Chief

Was kinda thinking this. Wondered how long people were just gonna stay quiet on him. He's just... there. -shrug-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:49:08 am
Eh.. Don't think Wilgy is that bad on reread. I mean, it's not amazing, but he's been doing a better job trying than I can say for some others.

bleh
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:53:18 am
What are the thoughts on lynching a no show? Do we wait for them to DQ themselves and not waste votes? Do we get them out of the way now? I think the former makes more sense. I doubt TGG is actually going to show up, and we wouldn't learn much from it (except now with this post, I guess)

You get no info from lynching a no show. (Hasn't our group already multiple discussions on this already?)

Best to lynch someone who's showing up, but clearly not doing anything.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:54:13 am
That said, lol those TGG voters.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 07:56:25 am
I dropped necalli months ago. I now dabble in the spinning mixer mix-up. FPSG had the best post pointing out that it isn't the weekend yet but you made an excuse to not be active then.

Would you have preferred I waited until Friday morning to make a post about being gone for the next 3 days? That appears as though I'm trying to escape some situation. On Day 1 there's much less context, it's not a response to an in-game event, so there's less room to misinterpret it as a response to a Mafia event.

And I'm against lynching Chief. This isn't the first time he's played the "how do i play this game again lol" card. I also enjoy his company. Please no kill
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 07:57:35 am
New page!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:59:53 am
I personally wouldn't lynch Chief D1 either. Just saying he's here but being a non-presence so far. Also, expect something better from him than making a TGG vote (boring).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 08:04:24 am
You get no info from lynching a no show. (Hasn't our group already multiple discussions on this already?)

Best to lynch someone who's showing up, but clearly not doing anything.

Vote Registered For Cyntalan
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 08:08:23 am
Was kinda thinking this. Wondered how long people were just gonna stay quiet on him. He's just... there. -shrug-

No need to be shy. Feel free to sling suspicion my way as needed.

I'm not use to getting day 1 votes so I took it as a kind gesture when Pimp voted me.

Cyntalan was the first although historically he always seems to never completely trust me. =)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 08:10:39 am
I personally wouldn't lynch Chief D1 either. Just saying he's here but being a non-presence so far. Also, expect something better from him than making a TGG vote (boring).

How about I just tell you my TGG vote isn't random.

I made a few town reads and figured a TGG lynch would get me a lot of info at minimal risk/loss.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 08:15:11 am
Is it dumb that I'd prefer not to lynch Cyntalan at least today since this is his first game on this site? Maybe I'm too nice.

Regardless, not gonna stop anyone else if that's what they wanna do. Especially considering I've already told him to make any kind of read.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 08:19:54 am
Is it dumb that I'd prefer not to lynch Cyntalan at least today since this is his first game on this site? Maybe I'm too nice.

Regardless, not gonna stop anyone else if that's what they wanna do. Especially considering I've already told him to make any kind of read.

Kumbaya m'lord.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 08:27:51 am
6 Pages already? fuck...what's my role?

(http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/images/smilies/26x26/38_EmoticonsHDcom.png)
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 08:30:03 am
No Vote(7):Blindknagg, Fruit Punch Samurai G, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
jasonC(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 08:46:40 am
I'm not use to getting day 1 votes so I took it as a kind gesture when Pimp voted me

You learn to live with them. Remember, every vote to lynch you is someone who thinks you're important :)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 09, 2017, 09:05:06 am
I gotta agree that voting for gamer is a waste at this point if he's likely to DQ himself tomorrow.

With that said
Vote Registered For ZOOLANDER and will prob stay that way unless he shows up soon. (since he at least knows that the game's started)

Also fuzz, BK's not rich enough to live in Switzerland

(http://i.imgur.com/hjtOfK0.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 09:10:18 am
Zoo's made all of what, one post? Feel like he's likely to DQ too
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 09:12:30 am
Wow. I think we've actually fingered everybody on day 1. The efficiency is beautiful. This has to be a first.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 09:12:50 am
Wish Cynt would say more stuff too :/

Imma go with Vote Registered For PimpWilly for now
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 09:13:58 am
Wow. I think we've actually fingered everybody on day 1. The efficiency is beautiful. This has to be a first.
lol true

Though not much talk of Co-Jones either
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 09, 2017, 09:19:02 am
Zoo's made all of what, one post? Feel like he's likely to DQ too

I suppose that's also a possibility.

But if I'm not misremembering things this wouldn't be the first time Zoo's been barely present during the start of the game to show up and start posting later.

My vote stays for now.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 09:30:05 am
No Vote(6):Fruit Punch Samurai G, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
ZOOLANDER(2):Blindknagg, Synonym
DrWilgy(2):Augustus, Missing Person
Synonym(1):vonvorto
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Invalid Vote(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 09:36:01 am
I think Wilgy is important :)
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 09:40:18 am
ForgeDigger makes a good point by the way. Zoo has DQ'd more than a couple times while TGG has not from my memory.

There would need to be more clarity behind deciding to switch from one inactive to another.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 09:46:00 am
There would need to be more clarity behind deciding to switch from one inactive to another

There *should* need to be more clarity behind deciding to switch from one inactive to another. Zoo's reputation of being abrasive and illogical is like a little bridge to get from one completely inactive candidate to the other almost completely inactive candidate. People like to get active and move around for exercise even if they're not really going anywhere.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 09:53:50 am
why do I not remember a single post made by Co-Jones so far

he's playing???
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 09:54:13 am
He had one. I'll fetch it right quick.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 09:59:46 am
After my long ass hiatus, I'm back playing (mostly because Bious asked me)

I've skimmed over the past couple of pages and I've noted a couple of things:

Alpha is playing too reserved, and that's not a good sign.

There's too many wallflowers and while it may be OK to not say much at the start because there's almost nothing to go on, it'll become problematic

Chief playing the noob card is suspect...

And I forgot how to place my vote LOL

^Here you go.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 10:00:04 am
No Vote(5):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(3):Augustus, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
ZOOLANDER(2):Blindknagg, Synonym
Synonym(1):vonvorto
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Invalid Vote(1):ForgeDigger
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 10:03:24 am
After my long ass hiatus, I'm back playing (mostly because Bious asked me)

I've skimmed over the past couple of pages and I've noted a couple of things:

Alpha is playing too reserved, and that's not a good sign.

There's too many wallflowers and while it may be OK to not say much at the start because there's almost nothing to go on, it'll become problematic

Chief playing the noob card is suspect...

And I forgot how to place my vote LOL

slurp slurp.
This is the only post he made.
Let the record show that he came out against wallflowers very late into the day. If he had stuck around or actually named them then I could buy his anti-wallflower campaign as legitimate but as is I'm of the belief that he's putting on airs.

Leaving for class, going to work on essays with my professor, then I'll be back for a short check-in before my tournament tonight. Stay positive everyone, we can do this!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 10:04:03 am
Gracias Mr. The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 09, 2017, 10:47:55 am
slurp slurp.
This is the only post he made.
Let the record show that he came out against wallflowers very late into the day. If he had stuck around or actually named them then I could buy his anti-wallflower campaign as legitimate but as is I'm of the belief that he's putting on airs.

Leaving for class, going to work on essays with my professor, then I'll be back for a short check-in before my tournament tonight. Stay positive everyone, we can do this!

I didn't post earlier in the day since I had forgotten my JTM login info.

I've been reading posts and looking to see who hasn't said a thing and Wigly, TGG and Zoo.

I cannot remember what tgg has said to warrant a vote, but like it was mentioned earlier, just let the no shows get DQd and spend the vote on someone else.

For now I'll let my vote stay for Vote Registered For DrWigly
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 09, 2017, 10:49:05 am
I'm currently at work but I'll read over what happens when I get out from work today  :)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 10:59:47 am
His name is Wilgy. WILGY. L before the G
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 11:00:04 am
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(3):Augustus, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz
Invalid Vote(2):ForgeDigger, The-Co-Jones
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
ZOOLANDER(2):Blindknagg, Synonym
Synonym(1):vonvorto
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 11:01:43 am
Why Wilgy in particular, CJ?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 11:02:52 am
I feel like the answer is "because he already has the most votes".
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 11:04:40 am
Like I said. Lynch bait.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 11:39:12 am
Vote Bot showed me something.
Does anyone know what happend if Invalid Votes ties with a current lynch leader?

I love some broken tech but if mafia can block a lynch by tying invalid votes with actual votes... well damn. lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 12:10:07 pm
Vote Bot showed me something.
Does anyone know what happend if Invalid Votes ties with a current lynch leader?

I love some broken tech but if mafia can block a lynch by tying invalid votes with actual votes... well damn. lol
I think it's at the GM's discretion. Like, if you misspell their name or fuck up a bracket it still counts. That would be so broken otherwise.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 12:13:46 pm
I actually super agree with this townblock tho. Include Von and I would not lynch any of those toDay.

Roman's been feeling good surprisingly.
You like that people who aren't trying to Lynch you and are agreeing with you are town? That seems shortsighted.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 12:14:19 pm
I have to shovel snow and then try and figure out if I'm working tonight or not.

Who is the lynch today and why? I need to place my final vote before I head out.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 12:26:46 pm
I think it's at the GM's discretion. Like, if you misspell their name or fuck up a bracket it still counts. That would be so broken otherwise.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Ah ok. So if, say, Icege was GM... noone would die. lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 12:28:28 pm
I have to shovel snow and then try and figure out if I'm working tonight or not.

Who is the lynch today and why? I need to place my final vote before I head out.

You asking us or mafia?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 01:10:49 pm
Gotta say I am loving that this thread is able to summon players into activity without even tagging them!

(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/artlvr319/intothewildgreenyonder4.png)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 01:38:43 pm
@Cobalt join your townreads.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 01:39:13 pm
Why is everyone having spelling problems on their votes?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 01:42:01 pm
Envisioning a Fuzz/Chief team all of a sudden.

-shrug-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 01:43:30 pm
Envisioning a Fuzz/Chief team all of a sudden.

-shrug-

The Sonny and Cher reunion tour?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 01:46:38 pm
I don't remember why MP is voting Wilgy.

Lettuce check.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 01:51:59 pm
I now think Wilgy is wolfy again.

loooool
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 01:57:50 pm
Here's why:

Von I can understand with the grudgy "rivalry" going on between the two but why did you vote for MP @DrWilgy?

He's the only person who's introduction made me go "meh, I Can vote for this"

What do you think of Forge's JC vote?

Wait what?

What part of this:

Looks scummy enough to vote for?

Looks like fear.

Making me re-evaluate Wilgy and Cobalt now.

Y tho

I didn't find it scummy, more so I didn't feel bad voting for it. There was no "nah" in my brain. What do you think of cobalt town reading you?

Basically latching onto a post where I start off the game working on solving to vote for me. Then any time he is brought up he is trying to divert attention to someone else.  He looks like he is deflecting so that he doesn't get lynched. He hasn't given a real reasoning for a vote, and doesn't want to see his name on the suspect list without throwing other names into it himself.

If he is scum, he has a good list of spews day one that we can look at.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 01:59:53 pm
It would look far less suspicious if he had led off with a reason why he was voting me, instead of trying to slip it in like RVS, then coming up with a reason why he's voting for me when Blindknagg pressed for one.

Instead, now it looks like he's trying to cover his ass at every turn.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 09, 2017, 02:04:37 pm
I agree with MP here.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Guess Zoo can wait till tomorrow. Or he might even get DQ'd  :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:07:28 pm
D1 DrWilgy wagon is hm.

I'd shruglynch him for not playing transparently one way or the other, but it's not my favorite.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 02:16:58 pm
Ah ok. So if, say, Icege was GM... noone would die. lol

TRIGGERED
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 02:18:14 pm
D1 DrWilgy wagon is hm.

I'd shruglynch him for not playing transparently one way or the other, but it's not my favorite.

Shruglynch. I like that term.

4 hours left? The Wilgy pileup is starting to look bad.

TRIGGERED

I almost apologized.

...almost.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 09, 2017, 02:18:24 pm
I guess I'll just stick with my original plan of voting same as MP, at least this round.

Vote Registered For DrWigly

Am i bandwagoning right?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:25:00 pm
DrWilgy (5): Augustus, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz, Blindknagg, Reiraku

Don't mind me, just making notes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:25:48 pm
4 hours left? The Wilgy pileup is starting to look bad.

Do me a favor and fire from the hip: the mod confirms that there is one mafia voting for DrWilgy right now. Who do you think it is and why?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 02:27:55 pm


D1 DrWilgy wagon is hm.

I'd shruglynch him for not playing transparently one way or the other, but it's not my favorite.

I agree with this sentiment.

Co-Jones showing up like that is sus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 02:28:30 pm
I guess I'll just stick with my original plan of voting same as MP, at least this round.

Vote Registered For DrWigly

Am i bandwagoning right?
Holding on to this for later
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(4):Augustus, Blindknagg, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz
Invalid Vote(2):ForgeDigger, The-Co-Jones
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Cyntalan, The Chief
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Missing Person(1):DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 02:30:34 pm
Fixing my vote Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:32:51 pm
Ok. Wtf, why do I have votes? Did everyone just say "yeah let's bandwagon Wilgy hahahahha"

I'd rather not be lynched twice in a row day 1 on this site considering how often we have games.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:33:55 pm
Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX to survive.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:37:28 pm
Forge/Augustus save me.

Can anyone actually explain their votes for me?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 02:41:08 pm
Well, it was more or less along the lines of what MP had said about you. Sorta, anyway.

Do you have an alternative vote other than TGG or MP? Because I'm not impressed with what you've offered so far.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:43:26 pm
It would look far less suspicious if he had led off with a reason why he was voting me, instead of trying to slip it in like RVS, then coming up with a reason why he's voting for me when Blindknagg pressed for one.

Instead, now it looks like he's trying to cover his ass at every turn.
Why would I cover my ass? Your introduction felt the most votable so I did. Forgive me for trying to interact with other players at the same time.

I don't know how your random branch thinking gets others to vote with you either.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:43:57 pm
Why are those four in particular coming of as town to you?
Town MP super tunneled you in the last game here. This game he is like anti-tunneling on purpose. What is your read based on?

See below.

---

I'm town.

Cobalt is just...town. I believe his vanilla claim, he's being inquisitive rather than manipulative, and his agreement with my townbloc suggests we're seeing the game from the same alignment.

MP started and continued to do the most gamesolving out of anyone. Could be powerwolfing, but it's a decent reason to not lynch him D1. I can follow his thought process and nothing fishy has jumped out at me, in a "that is unlikely to be a thought a town player would have" kind of way.

I'm leaning town on Augustus for the way he handled Cobalt earlier in the game. I think as scum, he'd have tried to blend in more by lobbing potshots at Cobalt.

Reiraku is town for this (http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47192.html#msg47192) post.

vonvorto
Cobalt
Missing Person
Augustus
Reiraku
✰Alpha✰
Blindknagg
Cyntalan
DrWilgy
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
jasonC
Pimp Willy
RadicalFuzz
Synonym
The Chief
The-Co-Jones
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

That leaves fourteen names for four scum to reside in. Six, if you count the Neutrals, but I'm not gonna bother with them.

DrWilgy getting run up on D1 is eh. The more I wish it around in my head, the more I dislike it. I freely admit that I find his play incomprehensible, but even so, I'm going to mark him down as a very light townread for how the gameflow has been treating him.

Looking at the wagon:

DrWilgy (5): Augustus, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz, Blindknagg, Reiraku

RadicalFuzz and Blindknagg are potential mafia here, in a vacuum.

RadicalFuzz has pretty much been actively lurking. Posting a lot, saying nothing of significance. I can empathize with being too busy to play, but spamming the thread instead of making somewhat-quality posts whenever he drops in is not a good look. The bandwagoning is bad. And him digging up what's-his-face's post looked an awful lot like a "Look at me being helpful! I'm totally town!" move. I ~probably wouldn't lynch him toDay, if only so he's able to provide more content before I come for his life.

Blindknagg isn't much better. His questions look empty, like he just wants to be seen existing. I see no desire to figure out the game from him. Gun to head, I'd lynch RadicalFuzz over him, but just barely.

I went over why Synonym's case on MP was scummy, and why the evidence he sighted doesn't pass the smell test. I don't like his wagon-hopping, nor his attempt to shut down the townbloc rather than seek additional clarification on it.

vonvorto
Cobalt
Missing Person
Augustus
Reiraku
DrWilgy
✰Alpha✰
Cyntalan
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
jasonC
Pimp Willy
The Chief
The-Co-Jones
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER
Blindknagg
RadicalFuzz
Synonym

God this playerlist is huge.

I...don't really have any strong feelings about everyone else. I ~think The Chief is town, but I get the feeling he's a notorious player or something, so I don't want him to blindside me. Eh.

I encourage people to consider Synonym/Blindknagg/RadicalFuzz wagons, in order of preference. Given my luck, there's probably only one scum in that cluster, and the rest are spread out among players I don't have reads on. If one of my townreads is fooling me, it's probably MP or Augustus, but as it stands I'm not all that worried about them.

I won't be around for deadline.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 02:44:58 pm
I voted you to push you into a lead over the other 2-votes at the time. Two votes later I'm content that you're not important right now. I'll move my vote to Von for tonight.
Vote Registered For vonvorto

And the Sonny & Cher Reunion Tour would be fantastic, that game went great!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:45:10 pm
(I was hoping The Chief would answer my question by the time I finished that big post, since I won't be around for much longer, but oh well.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 02:46:58 pm
I voted you to push you into a lead over the other 2-votes at the time. Two votes later I'm content that you're not important right now. I'll move my vote to Von for tonight.
Vote Registered For vonvorto

What are you even doing?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 02:47:10 pm
Ah, speaking of which, hi Von! If my post holding Jones' quote felt like a "I'm being helpful!" vibe that's because I was trying to be legitimately helpful.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 02:48:50 pm
Do me a favor and fire from the hip: the mod confirms that there is one mafia voting for DrWilgy right now. Who do you think it is and why?

Sure. Sounds fun.
MP is who I would say is mafia from the list of names on Wilgy.

...but he's someone I'd give the veteran pass to. Basically giving him a chance to make me rethink my theory.

I had a kneejerk reaction to one of his earlier posts on page 3. If my stance doesn't change and a wagon starts rolling for him later, I wouldn't oppose a vote for him.

He's good enough to to make me change my mind though, but we'll see.

Your experience is starting to shine @vonvorto.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:49:36 pm
Well, it was more or less along the lines of what MP had said about you. Sorta, anyway.

Do you have an alternative vote other than TGG or MP? Because I'm not impressed with what you've offered so far.
Not really, been kinda afk. I do still have problems with his nonsensical chain logic involving me and cobalt together.

Fuzz' s "aha, let's vote Wilgy aha" is also not sitting right, but that's just him being a fucboi.

Co-Jones choice of me being the wallflower to kill is dumb lazy bandwagoning. If he actually cared about culling wallflowers he would've chosen one of the ones whi haven't put out any opinions.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 02:50:11 pm
The more I see vote shifting, the more I do like the Wilgy bandwagon.

Fuzz just shifted this into a tie vote with no guarantee that the wallflowers will show to vote. Makes me like Fuzz a lot less than before.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 02:52:14 pm
That feel when your scumreads mark your post as "insightful" and "liked."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: RadicalFuzz on February 09, 2017, 02:52:37 pm
Hey, I am not a fucboi.

I do have to leave to run a tournament though, so verdict might still be out on that one. Unrelated facts, Australia should be waking up soon. If you want proof that I'm running a tournament and not actively lurking, snickering behind a bright monitor in a dimly lit room then come check out the stream. It's "hitbox.tv/HoustonPM"

Have fun guys, and see you soon!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Reiraku on February 09, 2017, 02:53:19 pm
I realized I can't spell names for shit. Also, I'm glad my work doesn't filter this site.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Just so the VoteBot can count it. If I'm wrong, I probably would be looking at Fuzz next.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 02:54:07 pm
Thinking about Fuzz/CJ and Fuzz/Wilgy connections atm but am just confusing myself. Gotta drive home now. bbl
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 02:55:07 pm
I also think I get what Chief is doing, which is why I haven't clumped him into scumreads yet.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 02:57:31 pm
The thing is, if Fuzz jumps off of Scum Wilgy, Fuzz would likely know he's next.

He could still jump off of town Wilgy to make himself look clean, but ultimately Fuzz's jump motives hinge on a Wilgy flip and D2 interactions.

Fuzz is, however, likely hoping that there will be CFD later he can hide behind. But I don't like that he's the first to blink.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 02:57:54 pm
I also think I get what Chief is doing, which is why I haven't clumped him into scumreads yet.

Time will tell.
How about you do tell instead of leaving open enigmatic bullshit? Or perhaps ask him?

MP here's the main issue, your thoughts make no sense, and If they are legitimate thoughts then why can't I believe them?  Is there a communication issue here? I would really like to understand your suspicion.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 09, 2017, 02:58:12 pm
That feel when your scumreads mark your post as "insightful" and "liked."

Can't deny that it's a good post. Outside of me being scummy but I can sorta understand your logic behind that one. :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 02:58:32 pm
Unrelated facts, Australia should be waking up soon.

Already posted today, but a decent attention shift attempt nonetheless.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 03:00:04 pm
DrWilgy(4):Augustus, Blindknagg, Missing Person, Reiraku
No Vote(3):Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(3):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, The Chief
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
The Chief(1):Pimp Willy
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 03:00:45 pm
How about you do tell instead of leaving open enigmatic bullshit? Or perhaps ask him?

MP here's the main issue, your thoughts make no sense, and If they are legitimate thoughts then why can't I believe them?  Is there a communication issue here? I would really like to understand your suspicion.

If other people agree with them, including Augustus, who is probably one of the better logic players in the games, then you're not following them because you got got and are wanting to pawn off your mistakes as "Crackpot MP"
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 03:06:52 pm
As far as, "Stop being enigmatic," about Chief, no.

I'll let it play out, because later I can use it as a hard read on him for either/or.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 03:11:34 pm
You asking us or mafia?

LALALALALALALALALALALALALA
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 03:12:07 pm
@DrWilgy - For some reason, I doubt your getting lynched today.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:12:17 pm
Fuzz, if you've expressed discomfort with Co-Jones earlier, why not give him more flack after making an awful Wilgy vote? 

Is his Wilgy vote reasonable? Cos you kinda moved off him yourself to vote von instead for I don't even know why.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 03:13:39 pm
LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

And just like that all suspicion has vanished from Cobalt.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 03:17:23 pm
If this gets CFD'd, Wilgy needs to get got soon though.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 03:20:41 pm
And just like that all suspicion has vanished from Cobalt.

<3
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 03:24:53 pm
Im not sold on Wilgy. Lets make this interesting.

Vote Registered For tgg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 03:28:08 pm
If other people agree with them, including Augustus, who is probably one of the better logic players in the games, then you're not following them because you got got and are wanting to pawn off your mistakes as "Crackpot MP"

Augustus can you please explain then?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:28:53 pm
How is that interesting? lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 03:29:25 pm
Im not sold on Wilgy. Lets make this interesting.

Vote Registered For tgg
ooh

spicy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 03:30:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(4):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(4):Augustus, Blindknagg, Missing Person, Reiraku
No Vote(3):Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
✰Alpha✰(1):Cobalt
RadicalFuzz(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 03:31:32 pm
Im not sold on Wilgy. Lets make this interesting.

Vote Registered For tgg

Some niggas just want to watch the world burn.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Pch8FiF08bc1G/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 03:33:47 pm
How is that interesting? lol

Forces a tie. Feels like I can get more information out of people that way. Maybe Wilgy is diry; so whos going to stick their neck out to save him now then if he is? Its easy to jump on the TGG vote and then throw me under the bus later.

I don't think we know what happens with a vote, is it a no lynch or a random vote? Either way, this is much more interesting. Theres no lazy last minute vote piling on the person with the most votes if its a tie.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 03:33:59 pm
@Cobalt join your townreads.

k

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 03:34:51 pm
How is that interesting? lol

He's testing to see what happens if there's an invalid vote tie.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 03:34:58 pm
ew it looks bad that I just broke a tie

I'm not w/w with tgg I promise

would also like to see him bite it if he doesn't show up at some point in the near future
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:35:39 pm
Um.. You made a weak read on Mr and then seemed satisfied by just sitting on it rather than building your case further or looking at others too.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 03:39:55 pm
He's testing to see what happens if there's an invalid vote tie.

Nah, TGG is one of the shortcuts I put in when you vote so nobody has to remember how to spell his name accurately. So voting TGG applies it correctly. I think it works with MP and alpha as well. I forced a tie between TGG and Wilgy, not invalid vote :tup:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 03:42:04 pm
Nah, TGG is one of the shortcuts I put in when you vote so nobody has to remember how to spell his name accurately. So voting TGG applies it correctly. I think it works with MP and alpha as well. I forced a tie between TGG and Wilgy, not invalid vote :tup:
Just noticed. Developer shenanigans.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:48:27 pm
A competing Fuzz wagon would be more interesting, Willy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:49:51 pm
Chief still loving those commentary posts. Don't think it's going unnoticed, bro.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 03:50:40 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

 :o
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 03:57:05 pm
I'm only going on a Fuzz wagon if I'm one of two left on Wilgy and Fuzz has a chance.

I hate TGG being a wallflower but I hate the seeing the spews we can't solve without a solid lynch subject. I also hate the Fuzz lynch because we get only get one instance of that with the jump off of Wilgy, as opposed to Wilgy with several people, but if Fuzz/Wilgy are scum/scum then it's win/win.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(4):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(4):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
No Vote(3):Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
RadicalFuzz(2):✰Alpha✰, Augustus
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Cyntalan(1):jasonC
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:02:10 pm
TGG wagon super lame. For real.

Whatevs.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 04:09:52 pm
Do me a favor and fire from the hip: the mod confirms that there is one mafia voting for DrWilgy right now. Who do you think it is and why?
Explain this.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:11:35 pm
Explain this.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



It's a hypothetical: If you were 100% guaranteed that one mafia was on the bandwagon, who would it be and why?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 09, 2017, 04:13:41 pm
I tried to follow this at work. Now this may be some Pimp Willy level tin foil hat nonsense. I think TGG may be a no show mafia and most of the people on him are also. What better way to clear your team than by voting away a useless member? Yeah it puts you in a numbers disadvantage but it buys you time. This is all based on the fact that I find Cyntalan very suspicious.

He gets mentioned then everyone forgets. 
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:15:52 pm
I haven't, yet.

Also this play is highly indicative of how @Cyntalan plays scum, FMPOV.

I just want to be sure before I push.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:18:12 pm
I also don't like how he never said a word about it.

I'd like him D2, but while I want to solve the spews fast, I could also see the benefit of Fuzz or Cyntalan on D1.

TGG, I don't see the benefit of when there are several high scummy reads today and if he flips town, we learn very little, and if he flips scum, we learn nothing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:20:40 pm
Cyntalan's flips give us very little added info to go on. Fuzz's gives us more.

If I could stack the vote and say someone gets lynched today, these are my 3 priorities:

DrWilgy
RadicalFuzz
Cyntalan

Synonym is still a scum lean for me, but he isn't getting lynched today, so he's off the table.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 09, 2017, 04:21:10 pm
I forgot to place my vote

Vote Registered For Cyntalan
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 04:23:19 pm
I only picked TGG because he was the one closest and I could force the tie, I don't have strong feelings either way.

I may or may not be asleep when the vote closes lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 04:26:31 pm
Is TGG a wallflower or inactive? There's a distinction.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 09, 2017, 04:27:42 pm
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t486/XGAm3RX/Von%20Karma/fran-yankc.gif)

It took you guys 3 days and 10 pages to even make an ATTEMPT at contacting me? Last I checked there wasn't even a start date and Bious was still trying to fill the roster. Yet here we are, MP tags me in SRK lounge leaving me 30 mins to catch up on the game before day 1 ends, and there is a bandwagon on me to boot. Every single one of you knows my stance on wallflowers and absenteeism in mafia games, and every single one of you also knows that all you had to do was message me on SRK to get me to show up. I didnt even know this fucking game started yet.

You guys fucking wonder why I dont come around anymore.
Vote Registered For No Vote
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:28:29 pm
looooool
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:29:07 pm
F*** oz, btw.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 04:30:06 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(4):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(4):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
Invalid Vote(2):The-Co-Jones, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Cyntalan(2):Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC
RadicalFuzz(2):✰Alpha✰, Augustus
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:31:13 pm
TGG, vote Fuzz for glory that might not be glory.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:32:23 pm
@Bious is deadline 8PM EST, 8PM CST, 8PM PST or 8PM Time Zone No One Cares About?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 04:34:10 pm
Day ends in 30 minutes at the next Joke Bot I mean Vote Bot post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:34:32 pm
Where the fuck did OZ put in a no vote?

And why is TGG's vote not getting registered?

@Pimp Willy HELLO HELLO HELLO :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:35:43 pm
Oh wait, reading it wrong, nvm
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:36:07 pm
loool TGG
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:36:25 pm
I wish this were a Fuzz/Wilgy flip. I feel like it's scum scum.

Lord knows you assholes won't make it happen.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 04:36:39 pm
@Bious is deadline 8PM EST, 8PM CST, 8PM PST or 8PM Time Zone No One Cares About?

Yes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:36:44 pm
I would vote RadicalFuzz but I don't want to give Alpha what he wants on Day One.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:37:32 pm
Wilgy won't because he knows he's scum.
Cynt likely won't for the same reason
Pimp Willy won't because :votebot:
@The Chief, come on, son.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:37:57 pm
Yes.

So all of them?

Ok, according to MY CLOCK, one hour 20 minutes remain.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:40:10 pm
What matters is if @The-Co-Jones either fixes his Wilgy vote or @Bious goes back and counts it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 04:41:07 pm
@DrWilgy, based on MP's argument, it's in your best interest to vote Fuzz.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:41:49 pm
Probably will vote Wilgy if it comes to it, I guess.

Distracted atm.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:43:03 pm
If the lynch goes to TGG, then Wilgy and Fuzz need to be D2 and D3 respectively.

Follow that up with Cyntalan for good measure.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 04:43:20 pm
I'm not counting invalid votes btw.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:43:53 pm
I'm not counting invalid votes btw.

@Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 04:46:30 pm


See below.

---



I went over why Synonym's case on MP was scummy, and why the evidence he sighted doesn't pass the smell test. I don't like his wagon-hopping, nor his attempt to shut down the townbloc rather than seek additional clarification on it.

You're really bad at reading. I voted no off a gut check having known his usual posting style. It wasn't an impassioned plea for a wagon or anything other than a vote yet it somehow got MP fired up and the rest of his goon squad to jump on me. No biggie, I'm not really worth much as a Mafia night kill.

But then your logic just collapses. You're retarded if anyone is going to accept this bullshit town bloc on day 1 just because you say so. You know the only group who guarantees they know each other's identities D1? Scum.

So no, I will not be following our even accepting your bullshit little circle jerk just because everyone in it is keen to be seen as confirmed civilian.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:49:13 pm
Whatever.

DrWilgy

Sorry if wrong but you played like butt.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:49:27 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

derp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 04:50:40 pm
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t486/XGAm3RX/Von%20Karma/fran-yankc.gif)

It took you guys 3 days and 10 pages to even make an ATTEMPT at contacting me? Last I checked there wasn't even a start date and Bious was still trying to fill the roster. Yet here we are, MP tags me in SRK lounge leaving me 30 mins to catch up on the game before day 1 ends, and there is a bandwagon on me to boot. Every single one of you knows my stance on wallflowers and absenteeism in mafia games, and every single one of you also knows that all you had to do was message me on SRK to get me to show up. I didnt even know this fucking game started yet.

You guys fucking wonder why I dont come around anymore.
Vote Registered For No Vote
I posted in the sign up thread on SRK with a link as well.

Also no sign of Oz so Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

@Augustus your move

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 04:51:38 pm
God damn it.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:53:13 pm
Definitely not jumping off of Wilgy at this point.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:53:21 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

The dream.

(Although kinda wondering if Wilgy is a better vote here now.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:53:51 pm
God damn it.

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:54:00 pm
spicy

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 09, 2017, 04:54:24 pm
Fuck it. For the lulz
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

I dont remember how ties work here, but if I'm still alive in Day 2 I'll give a shit and catch up. If not, fuck you guys, I'll be playing Overwatch. Dont know what the current vote counts are. Dont give a fuck either.

I was gonna no vote but apparently that doesnt work.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:54:30 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

The dream.

(Although kinda wondering if Wilgy is a better vote here now.)

It is, but I'm not forcing a flip here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:55:19 pm
I almost want to go back to Wilgy because of the CFD.

But either/or here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:56:11 pm
Fuck it. For the lulz
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

I dont remember how ties work here, but if I'm still alive in Day 2 I'll give a shit and catch up. If not, fuck you guys, I'll be playing Overwatch. Dont know what the current vote counts are. Dont give a fuck either.

I was gonna no vote but apparently that doesnt work.
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX

do you play on ps4??? who are your mains???

I'm gonna spam all overwatch players here w/ this @Augustus lmao
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:56:27 pm
I feel like anyone voting Wilgy with me if I jump back off also votes for Fuzz, so it becomes the same situation only more volatile if somehow there's a three way tie.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:56:36 pm
I almost want to go back to Wilgy because of the CFD.

But either/or here.
will go where you and Roman go, here or wilgy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:56:53 pm
If Fuzz is a wolf, he might've just been trying to soft bus CJ earlier because he had no follow-up on that read even though he probably should have. Very unlikely CJ/Wilgy are a team. Fuzz/Wilgy a possibility though I think there's less of a chance on that one than the first one.

Chief probs woofin'. Cyntalan probs too.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 04:57:11 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz I'm alright with this.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 04:57:20 pm
What am I going to do with my life if he turns up Mafia?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:57:35 pm
I was gonna post something else and now I forgot what it was.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:57:42 pm
@XthAtGAm3RGuYX you have to vote No Lynch, not No Vote.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:57:54 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz I'm alright with this.

You are the worst.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:58:09 pm
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz I'm alright with this.

Gross.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Now I hate this wagon.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:58:40 pm
 :-X
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:58:49 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

self-pres no look good
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:59:01 pm
@Augustus go
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 04:59:32 pm
@Augustus GOOOO
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 04:59:39 pm
Is it too late?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 04:59:54 pm
DO IT NOW
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:00:01 pm
GOGO
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 05:00:04 pm
RadicalFuzz(5):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, DrWilgy, Synonym, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
DrWilgy(4):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(3):Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, The Chief
Cyntalan(2):Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:00:08 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:00:15 pm
ffs roman
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:00:30 pm
LOL
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:00:47 pm
Well, let's see before getting all mad.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:00:53 pm
DREAM IS REAL
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 05:00:57 pm
Day phase concluded at the last Joke Bot post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:01:02 pm
4/100ths of a second too late
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 05:01:33 pm
Tgg, I play on PC.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:01:36 pm
Co-Jones vote was the only reason I hesitated.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:02:49 pm
Co-Jones vote was the only reason I hesitated.

Why?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 05:03:16 pm
You are the worst.
Nigga if I had more time to argue this evening I would. I'm literally at a sonic ordering chicken nuggets and don't have time for this shit.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:03:58 pm
Come on Bious, don't let dreams be dreams.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 05:05:11 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

self-pres no look good
What? How is self pres ever a bad look?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:05:37 pm
Co-Jones' Wilgy vote was super wolfy and I doubt it'd be a bus if he really is a wolf.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:05:41 pm
Nigga if I had more time to argue this evening I would. I'm literally at a sonic ordering chicken nuggets and don't have time for this shit.

If this post ain't the most me fucking thing I've ever seen I don't know what the hell is
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:06:02 pm
What? How is self pres ever a bad look?

It is when me and my townreads think you're mafia
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
What? How is self pres ever a bad look?

Because flailing at deadline means there was a scum wagon.

You also weren't even at risk near EOD, you just threw the noose back around your neck.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:06:56 pm
What? How is self pres ever a bad look?

Because you vanished after being discussed over and then come in to vote right before deadline, lol.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:07:04 pm
also wilgy was dead missing from the thread until his fuzz vote

pretty opportunistic
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:07:11 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/513/985/2e0.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:07:20 pm
roman echoing me

def town
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 09, 2017, 05:07:28 pm
Bleh, was just starting my post and then I saw that it was 8 EST not PST. Ah well. While I wanted to change my vote, I wasn't sure as to who to and was going to ask further into why Wilgy? Just because of the defensiveness?

At least I'll keep my observation that I was going to post, as I feel it's still pertinent:

Not feelin' TGG anymore. I can't imagine the rest of the mafia sitting idly by and letting him go without at least being informed that he's getting looked at. Doubly so considering he was on the chopping block. He's my highest townread right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:08:03 pm
vig doesn't get activated until doctor dies?

god damn.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 05:08:35 pm
Because flailing at deadline means there was a scum wagon.

You also weren't even at risk near EOD, you just threw the noose back around your neck.
Just happened to be waiting on my nuggets at the time of deadline :shrug:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:08:44 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/513/985/2e0.gif)

@Bious quick before cum excretes through Alpha's nose.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:08:47 pm
Bleh, was just starting my post and then I saw that it was 8 EST not PST. Ah well. While I wanted to change my vote, I wasn't sure as to who to and was going to ask further into why Wilgy? Just because of the defensiveness?

At least I'll keep my observation that I was going to post, as I feel it's still pertinent:

Not feelin' TGG anymore. I can't imagine the rest of the mafia sitting idly by and letting him go without at least being informed that he's getting looked at. Doubly so considering he was on the chopping block. He's my highest townread right now.
okay I mean I see why you aren't looking at tgg anymore but I'd say highest townread is NOT the call to make there lmao
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:09:15 pm
Just happened to be waiting on my nuggets at the time of deadline :shrug:

Flail at Sonic's managers, not us. vOv
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:10:43 pm
I was going to lolCyntalan, but I do think his TGG read is fair and I didn't consider that.

-shrug-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 05:11:25 pm
Day 1
Major Boner



RING RING

"This is Snake! Major, do you copy?"

"Snake! What's wrong!"

"Diplomacy has failed! They started a witch-hunt and now they're all trying to screw me over!"

"Well stay hidden! These spies will fuck you over a pipe if they get to you!"

"I'm trying, but I don't know how long I can hold... Oh no... They're coming!"

"Snake! Do you copy!"

"NO ALPHA! NOT THE PIPE! AAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!"

"SNAKE! SNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAKE!"



".. So he ate a pipe with his ass?"

"And then they stomped on the end of it. He died from bleeding out of his anus after an hour."

"Wow."

"Oh it get worse. Much worse."

RadicalFuzz was lynched! He was Solid Snake!
Co-Jones receives a warning for vote fraud! One more and he will be disqualified!

It is now NIGHT. NIGHT ends at 11:00 AM February 10th EST (that's in 14 hours.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:11:47 pm
lolCyntalan anyway.

@Cyntalan Who are the wolves???
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:12:20 pm
I was going to lolCyntalan, but I do think his TGG read is fair and I didn't consider that.

-shrug-

Does that change anything on Wilgy though?

Seems too opportune for him to actually have seen TGG show up with the CFD happening. Especially when he neglects to give that reason for his Fuzz vote. Instead it's "Self-preservation" and "I don't have time because I'm at Sonic."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:12:49 pm
Welp.

"I blame Bious."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:12:57 pm
RIP IS SOLID SNAKE COP???
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:13:09 pm
I was going to lolCyntalan, but I do think his TGG read is fair and I didn't consider that.

-shrug-

Devil's advocate: They could be tagging him in the Mafia thread, which he doesn't see without checking JTM.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 09, 2017, 05:13:22 pm
No he's tracker.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:13:42 pm
oh tracker

zzzzzzzzz

I blame @Augustus for being 4/100ths of a second late
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 05:13:54 pm
should have put the vote in the "is it too late?" post
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:14:27 pm
Does that change anything on Wilgy though?

Seems too opportune for him to actually have seen TGG show up with the CFD happening. Especially when he neglects to give that reason for his Fuzz vote. Instead it's "Self-preservation" and "I don't have time because I'm at Sonic."

What do you mean does that change anything for Wilgy?

And I wasn't really giving Cyntalan villager credit there. I just agree with what he said. Cyntalan can very well still be a wolf.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:16:14 pm
Now Wilgy definitely looks scum.
TGG actually does somewhat. Nothing started moving on either case until the Fuzz CFD happened.

Could we have had scum/scum until the Fuzz wagon?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 09, 2017, 05:16:55 pm
Does that change anything on Wilgy though?

Seems too opportune for him to actually have seen TGG show up with the CFD happening. Especially when he neglects to give that reason for his Fuzz vote. Instead it's "Self-preservation" and "I don't have time because I'm at Sonic."
(http://i.imgur.com/Yyrtrvsh.jpg)
And it's delicious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 05:17:11 pm
Oh Fuzz, you never fail to surprise me on new ways to disappoint me.

I hope someone's paying attention tonight.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:18:41 pm
What do you mean does that change anything for Wilgy?

And I wasn't really giving Cyntalan villager credit there. I just agree with what he said. Cyntalan can very well still be a wolf.

Was basing that off the bolded. Disregard.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:19:02 pm
Oh Fuzz, you never fail to surprise me on new ways to disappoint me.

I hope someone's paying attention tonight.

Godonic isn't playing, Alpha.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:25:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Yyrtrvsh.jpg)
And it's delicious

I'm not doubting Sonic. I'm doubting that you don't have time for this shit.

My best play in these games come when I'm eating.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 05:28:17 pm
That Augustus doing the "Am I too late?" Shit right before deadline and then missing the deadline by like a second is like, over the top mafia. You either vote, or you don't, but you don't ask if its too late without at least trying if you're serious. Lol.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 05:30:05 pm
DrWilgy(5):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
RadicalFuzz(4):✰Alpha✰, DrWilgy, Synonym, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(3):Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, The Chief
Cyntalan(2):Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 05:30:41 pm
Actually, I posted that because my computer's clock was early and said it was already :00 when I was about to type it in.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 05:31:23 pm
@Bious don't forget to update the player list in your last post to be blank or say "Its now night phase" to make Vote Bot shut up
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 05:41:11 pm
Its now night phase.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 05:47:00 pm
Its now night phase.

Do it in a player list, like

Players
It is now night phase
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 05:47:46 pm
Y'all need to start hitting up those Lens Crafter discounts.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 09, 2017, 05:47:54 pm
Do it in a player list, like


Players
It is now night phase
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 05:48:59 pm
Vote Registered For Shut Up vote Bot
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:51:19 pm
Vote Registered For scott howard

Vote Registered For Icege
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:54:01 pm
So realest talk.

Everyone, top 3 town reads + top 3 scum reads please.

Town:
Augustus
Alpha
Blindknagg

Scum:
Wilgy
Synonym
Cynt

Bonus Town: FPSG
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:57:07 pm
Also still leaning town on Cobalt and von.

I'm worried that von COULD be parroting me to get my good side. But I want to see what happens later on that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 05:58:26 pm
But I honestly feel like parroting is uber bad unless you think the player is beneath you.

I don't feel like that's the case here, but at the same time, I know Syn has used that technique on me so I won't discount the possibility.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 06:00:04 pm
No Vote(1):It is now night phase
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 06:03:26 pm
At least this game has more activity than the last one I was in.

And at least my job affords me time to play again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 06:05:34 pm
So realest talk.

Everyone, top 3 town reads + top 3 scum reads please.

Town:
Augustus
Alpha
Blindknagg

Scum:
Wilgy
Synonym
Cynt

Bonus Town: FPSG
Town:
-Augustus
-Alpha
-Pimp

Scum:
-Vonvorto
-Cyntalyn
-MP

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 06:06:11 pm
But I honestly feel like parroting is uber bad unless you think the player is beneath you.

I don't feel like that's the case here, but at the same time, I know Syn has used that technique on me so I won't discount the possibility.
He's been riding your dick this entire game.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 06:27:09 pm
Town:
-Augustus
-Alpha
-Pimp

Scum:
-Vonvorto
-Cyntalyn
-MP

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



I don't even remotely get the PW town read.

He's been riding your dick this entire game.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



Which is why I mention the parroting.  It's something we can figure out later. Either he truly buys me town or is looking to set me up later.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 06:32:53 pm
Vote Registered For Tortugagrande
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 06:38:28 pm
How the fuck do you put Augustus town with that fake "Am I late?" Bullshit that got Fuzz lynched?

He was the entire reason people started piling on him anyway, to protect TGG apparently
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 06:39:31 pm
It WOULD be ironic that I'm getting parroted by scum in the runback to the game where you parroted me as scum @Synonym.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 06:40:31 pm
How the fuck do you put Augustus town with that fake "Am I late?" Bullshit that got Fuzz lynched?

He was the entire reason people started piling on him anyway, to protect TGG apparently

You would remember less what happened because you weren't playing the All-Star Game (shots fired), but if it's fake, that is not outside town Augustus' range of actions.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 06:41:20 pm
Yep. If an Augustus wagon gets going I'm down.

Some serious wtf going on with that one.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 06:46:20 pm
Also, how the fuck is Augustus the reason the Fuzz CFD started?

I posted in the sign up thread on SRK with a link as well.

Also no sign of Oz so Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

@Augustus your move

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



Hmmm, Pimp?
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 09, 2017, 07:00:04 pm
No Vote(1):It is now night phase
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 09, 2017, 07:07:11 pm
Synonym's probably top town for me. I can't say about anyone else really, only skimmed the last few hours worth of posts; will have to reread.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 07:10:00 pm
wtf happened you guys
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 09, 2017, 07:11:48 pm
bleh

isn't it strange how something like 80% of pw's posts have now been during the night time :\
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:19:42 pm
How the fuck do you put Augustus town with that fake "Am I late?" Bullshit that got Fuzz lynched?

He was the entire reason people started piling on him anyway, to protect TGG apparently

Dude, shut up. I literally told you why I made that post. Part of me wanted Fuzz lynched over Wilgy there anyway, so I'm not gonna apologise for hesitating to switch too much. I will apologise to Fuzz for being wrong (Sorry).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:21:14 pm
Yep. If an Augustus wagon gets going I'm down.

Some serious wtf going on with that one.

What exactly is wtf? Why have you not elaborated on a single thing this whole game?

Like, I believe Willy's probably just dumb. You're being opportunistic.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:23:41 pm
Also, FPSG is likely a villager because I like to think I know how to read him pretty well. Don't touch.

And aside that, I actually like Synonym and MP best so lol at them wolf-reading each other.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 09, 2017, 07:26:08 pm
Nah, I'm just certain you're not reading my posts. Not that you have to or I'm wanting to you. It's just you're posts have continuously lost credibility the more you post.

That said, you know I can't get you lynched so you shouldn't be concerned.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 07:28:18 pm
Also, FPSG is likely a villager because I like to think I know how to read him pretty well. Don't touch.

And aside that, I actually like Synonym and MP best so lol at them wolf-reading each other.

I've been reading Synonym scum since his first post. Confirmation bias aside, PW putting the blame on you for the CFD when it was clearly sparked by Synonym looks shady as fuck.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
If I'm wrong, then you're not helping me and I shouldn't be blamed for being distracted by you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 09, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
I've been reading Synonym scum since his first post. Confirmation bias aside, PW putting the blame on you for the CFD when it was clearly sparked by Synonym looks shady as fuck.

To be fair, I was the one who proposed that lynch to begin with.

Better than a copout TGG lynch because lolf***it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 09, 2017, 07:36:19 pm
Also still leaning town on Cobalt and von.

I'm worried that von COULD be parroting me to get my good side. But I want to see what happens later on that.

he isn't. don't worry.

that looks way different. when he throws out insubstantial pocket town reads is when you have to worry about that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 07:38:10 pm
The problem with so many Syn town reads is that one of my early (still slight) scum reads also reads him town.

If Syn IS town, them I'm not sure how jason is, especially when he has admittedly not read the thread, but still has the wherewithal to put Syn as top town. I don't see this. Nor does he really give any reasoning for his read.

If Syn IS town, then PW goes into my scum list, for trying to put heat onto Augustus for something Syn started. This COULD be scum/scum, but PW plays more to the vest with his teammates as mafia, so I say if PW is scum, then Syn is town. He'd know that someone who called him out on the Augustus callout would find Syn saying it first.

First choice would then to be to go after Syn. But the thing is, if we do that, and lynch town, then what?  If we follow Augustus and lynch town, then what?

These are two of the best town players on the site that could be in a 50/50 if we follow PW. And if he's scum, then it's win/win for him because he gets the biggest threat out first, and either leaves one alive to make them look suspicious and to stir up paranoia, or night kills the other for the Yomi play.

But if PW is scum, then what?
If PW is town, then what?

If Augustus is scum, then what?
If Synonym is scum, then what?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 07:42:16 pm
If PW is scum, then Synonym is town. If Synonym town, then I highly believe jasonC is scum. If jasonC is scum, then I highly believe Forge is town.
If PW is town, then this whole N1 exchange is senseless.

If Synonym is scum, jasonC COULD still be scum. I'm not sure about the percentages there, maybe a reread. If he's scum, I should be meta clear due to his heavy suspicion of me from post one.

If Augustus is scum, then I don't know about real life anymore. But I'd say that Cobalt goes further town for me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 07:44:23 pm
Also, how the fuck is Augustus the reason the Fuzz CFD started?

Hmmm, Pimp?

Might need to pull Augustus dick out of your mouth long enough to actually read a few posts before that. Like, you know, right after I tied Wilgy with TGG

A competing Fuzz wagon would be more interesting, Willy.
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

 :o

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 07:54:48 pm
There's a difference between initiating a CFD, and suggesting a better counter wagon than someone who had legitimately zero activity and could've possibly DQ'd anyway, vs. one who had literally jumped off what is likely a scum bandwagon VERY FIRST which looks inherently scummy, and trying to explain to you why it was better.

We're talking about the latter in this case while you're insinuating the former.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 09, 2017, 08:00:00 pm
So Augustus, who pushed the game from a tie, towards a fuzz lynching, is A OK in your book?

Gotcha

Its clear what went down, we don't allow alternative facts on JTM
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 09, 2017, 08:06:36 pm
Aww ffs, I didn't get a chance to correct my vote. I was saying the wrong damn name the whole time!!!

Well I am certain his ass is scum and I doubt I'll get offed because I'm sure the scum will wanna use me, but screw em.

With the vigi not working till the medic is dead, it changes up  a lot of things because by the time the vigi becomes active, it may become too late.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 09, 2017, 08:07:25 pm
Augustus and wilgy seem sus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 09, 2017, 08:19:17 pm
I love The Co-Jones. He's like a level 0 yomi machine.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 08:33:29 pm
So Augustus, who pushed the game from a tie, towards a fuzz lynching, is A OK in your book?

Gotcha

Its clear what went down, we don't allow alternative facts on JTM

#alternativefacts: I'm watermarking you right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 09, 2017, 09:45:47 pm
Hey Syn, would you be scumreading me if I hadn't come for you first?

Don't worry, there's no wrong answer.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 10:51:50 pm
Also, how the fuck is Augustus the reason the Fuzz CFD started?

Hmmm, Pimp?
Well, I moved my post off Oz because it didn't bring him back to the thread like I'd hoped. Between the three candidates I decided losing fuzz was the least impactful.

I want to give the others more rope to hang themselves and possibly their teammates.
The problem with so many Syn town reads is that one of my early (still slight) scum reads also reads him town.

If Syn IS town, them I'm not sure how jason is, especially when he has admittedly not read the thread, but still has the wherewithal to put Syn as top town. I don't see this. Nor does he really give any reasoning for his read.

If Syn IS town, then PW goes into my scum list, for trying to put heat onto Augustus for something Syn started. This COULD be scum/scum, but PW plays more to the vest with his teammates as mafia, so I say if PW is scum, then Syn is town. He'd know that someone who called him out on the Augustus callout would find Syn saying it first.

First choice would then to be to go after Syn. But the thing is, if we do that, and lynch town, then what?  If we follow Augustus and lynch town, then what?

These are two of the best town players on the site that could be in a 50/50 if we follow PW. And if he's scum, then it's win/win for him because he gets the biggest threat out first, and either leaves one alive to make them look suspicious and to stir up paranoia, or night kills the other for the Yomi play.

But if PW is scum, then what?
If PW is town, then what?

If Augustus is scum, then what?
If Synonym is scum, then what?
Aside from tunneling me, more posts like this.

Your earlier posts were not of this calibre and are why I was getting funny feelings.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Synonym on February 09, 2017, 10:56:19 pm


If PW is scum, then Synonym is town. If Synonym town, then I highly believe jasonC is scum. If jasonC is scum, then I highly believe Forge is town.
If PW is town, then this whole N1 exchange is senseless.

If Synonym is scum, jasonC COULD still be scum. I'm not sure about the percentages there, maybe a reread. If he's scum, I should be meta clear due to his heavy suspicion of me from post one.

If Augustus is scum, then I don't know about real life anymore. But I'd say that Cobalt goes further town for me.

If I flip scum I want it on record that MP is my teammate and should be lynched immediately afterwards.

Goodbye lock-clear status.
Hey Syn, would you be scumreading me if I hadn't come for you first?

Don't worry, there's no wrong answer.
I try not to make it personal, but you honestly appear to be riding the dick of any strong emerging town voices.

You also are trying too hard to push the "we're all civilians" card. Tagging a few strong voices to tie yourself to is scum 101. I refuse to count you as anything close to cleared civilian.

@cobalt you happy taking the lead next phase?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Missing Person on February 09, 2017, 11:12:51 pm
Still meta clear, so PogChamp Skizzzgasm
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 10, 2017, 12:52:38 am
I'm getting real tired of these mothafucking CFDs killing our mothafucking roles!

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/69852/3497203-snakes-on-a-plane-o.gif)

Not sure if that last vote is Aug being Aug or Aug being scummy.

Also @The-Co-Jones should make it a habit to check the votebot post after he votes from now on.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 01:01:40 am
@Bious these idiots will never work out you made me the solo mafia member.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 10, 2017, 01:06:27 am
Alright well since I'm not dead I'll read up after work. I do snow/ice control for the moment and I'm on the road right now. A lot of time in and out of the truck.

As for @Cobalt I'm a Flex, but I'm most notable for my McCree/Sombra/D.VA/Zenyatta.
https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/MJR_Poltergeist?

Currently in 3700's but I've been in the 4100's for competitive.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 03:32:21 am
Every season, I hit gold and stop playing ranked. :tup:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 05:23:07 am
I said I skimmed, and am still skimming. Yea I think syn is town and I can totally see the possibility of MP and Aug being mafia bros.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 05:23:51 am
Still meta clear, so PogChamp Skizzzgasm

Far from it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 07:19:33 am
Night ends in 40 minutes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 07:28:59 am
Do we get last gasps?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:37:34 am
I try not to make it personal, but you honestly appear to be riding the dick of any strong emerging town voices.

You also are trying too hard to push the "we're all civilians" card. Tagging a few strong voices to tie yourself to is scum 101. I refuse to count you as anything close to cleared civilian.

1. You didn't try very hard.
2. Your standards for dick riding are pretty low. I gave an initial townread on MP, and then explained it when asked directly.
3. This is my playstyle: finding townreads and lynching the remainders. I prioritize townhunting over scumhunting.
4. I never claimed you had to clear me, nor do I really expect you to, since I think you're mafia.
5. You shitting all over me for trying to solve the game via eliminating townreads from the lynch pool reeks of scumplaining, and does absolutely nothing to make me think you're town. You are more focused on discrediting rather than understanding me, and for that you will die.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:37:53 am
This is a fluff post to bump me up to 400.

Just because.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 07:44:38 am
Do we get last gasps?

@Bious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 07:46:20 am
@Bious

No.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 07:48:59 am
I said I skimmed, and am still skimming. Yea I think syn is town and I can totally see the possibility of MP and Aug being mafia bros.

-leans into mic-

WRONG.

-sniff-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:49:23 am
Shame.

Cobalt's reaction to getting NK'd as VT is always hilarious.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 07:50:46 am
This is my "Need to die at some point in the game" list:
DrWilgy
TGG
Missing Person
Augustus

Given this is day 1.5, they don't have to die immediately.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 07:50:49 am
Shame.

Cobalt's reaction to getting NK'd as VT is always hilarious.
?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:51:19 am
In response to there being no Last Gasps.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:52:00 am
This is my "Need to die at some point in the game" list:
DrWilgy
TGG
Missing Person
Augustus

Given this is day 1.5, they don't have to die immediately.

"These people need to die at some point in the game because __________."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 07:53:58 am
Oh, I see.

Wilgy might be a good bet for next lynching. Might help sort out the Co-gutus-person circlejerk going on
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 07:58:44 am
"These people need to die at some point in the game because __________."

You can ignore the dramatic title of the list and just call it "my current mafia reads".

If you disagree with my list there really isn't a need for me to elaborate further. It never feels right to lay out why you think someone is dirty for someone. Kind of says that person isn't paying attention to you/your posts anyway.

Nothing against you von. Just feels like an attempt  to devalue the reads I've made.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 07:59:57 am
Oh, I thought it was something purely meta-based, not that they were scumreads.

Carry on.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 08:02:12 am
Oh, I thought it was something purely meta-based, not that they were scumreads.

Carry on.

I'll give you this, if any of them die and come up mafia it could make the next lynches very easy from my perspective.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 08:16:23 am
@Cobalt you happy taking the lead next phase?

@Synonym what does this mean?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 08:17:11 am
Shame.

Cobalt's reaction to getting NK'd as VT is always hilarious.
That's only when I died night one like three games in a row 'cos scum was scared. :eli:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 08:29:09 am
Write up on the way.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 08:32:41 am
Did von ever respond to my question/prod?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:34:45 am
Probably not!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 08:35:23 am
Didn't think so.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:35:50 am
Oh, the one about MP?

Yeah, I answered that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 08:36:29 am
-leans into mic-

WRONG.

-sniff-

Which part lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:36:39 am
Didn't think so.

Is that all you have to say to me potentially not answering your question?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 08:39:16 am
1. You didn't try very hard.
2. Your standards for dick riding are pretty low. I gave an initial townread on MP, and then explained it when asked directly.
3. This is my playstyle: finding townreads and lynching the remainders. I prioritize townhunting over scumhunting.
4. I never claimed you had to clear me, nor do I really expect you to, since I think you're mafia.
5. You shitting all over me for trying to solve the game via eliminating townreads from the lynch pool reeks of scumplaining, and does absolutely nothing to make me think you're town. You are more focused on discrediting rather than understanding me, and for that you will die.

(https://atrl.net/uploads/emoticons/clap3.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: jasonC on February 10, 2017, 08:39:56 am
Oh yea the long post or two you had? Gotta read it in detail still. I'll wait for night results
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 08:40:47 am
Night 1
Press X To _______


"So what happened next."

"After that we went into our separate rooms to get some sleep. I was only asleep for about an hour when I heard an explosion. I ran out into the hallway and found a group of people surrounding a charred body."

"Who was it?"

"Agent Cupid, AKA JasonC. Poor man was blown in half somehow. I still remember the smell."

"Go on."

"After that we cleaned up the mess until someone noticed Pimp Willy had vanished. We searched for about an hour till someone opened a closet. We found him knocked out, bound and gagged. We untied and revived him, but he said he couldn't see whoever knocked him out."

"Hmm."

"What?"

"Nothing. What happened next."

"Well after that everyone was  suspicious of everyone else, so no one went back to bed during the night. Then the next day came..."


jasonC was killed! He was Red Spy!
Pimp Willy was Enforced!


Players
✰Alpha✰
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
DrWilgy
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
Reiraku
Synonym
The Chief
The-Co-Jones
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

IT IS NOW DAY PHASE. Day ends at 11:00 PM February 11th EST.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:42:54 am
Oh yea the long post or two you had? Gotta read it in detail still. I'll wait for night results

Ooh, that's awkward.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:44:08 am
Uh. Deadline is the 18th? As in over a week away?

@Bious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 08:45:19 am
I mean 11th!
Sorry, I'm an idiot.



Shut up Alpha.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 08:46:46 am
Hm... do lovers claim now? :/
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 08:47:15 am
Though nevermind cause it wouldn't do much .-.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 08:55:13 am
Ooh, that's awkward.

lol I hope that's not why mafia killed him. (I'm assuming our vigi didn't take a shot).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 08:57:23 am
Vig does not activate until the Doc is dead.

Lovers, eh. Shouldn't claim.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:02:03 am
ew no lovers don't claim unless one of you is going down and you need to save them
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:02:25 am
oh wait lovers can be scum aligned

meh sit on it still
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:03:04 am
In other news, PW is now on my sus list because a night one enforce when abilities aren't super important is an easy hey-look-I'm-clear! for a scumteam member
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: vonvorto on February 10, 2017, 09:03:33 am
Would you say that that looks bad for anyone, or Pimp Willy in particular?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:04:28 am
Would you say that that looks bad for anyone, or Pimp Willy in particular?
Anyone, but especially because it's easy to drop the enforce on the Black Bomberman because with no active vig, he's completely safe to enforce on night one.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:05:19 am
lol I hope that's not why mafia killed him. (I'm assuming our vigi didn't take a shot).
dumbtell denied, vigi isn't active.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:05:44 am
^ @The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:14:53 am
Vote Registered For The Chief

In retrospect, kinda bothers me that he shared no thoughts or criticism on that Fuzz mislynch. Isn't Fuzz supposed to be his bro or something? Seems more okay with what happened than I guess I'd expect him to. Or this is a dumb read.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:16:15 am
Willy roleblock probably not worth thinking too much into. Can go either way.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:19:03 am
This is my "Need to die at some point in the game" list:
DrWilgy
TGG
Missing Person
Augustus

Given this is day 1.5, they don't have to die immediately.

Can you at the very least elaborate on TGG? You're essentially telling people that someone who (allegedly) hasn't even started playing the game should be lynched.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 09:24:22 am
Vote Registered For Augustus

In other news, PW is now on my sus list because a night one enforce when abilities aren't super important is an easy hey-look-I'm-clear! for a scumteam member

I appreciate that you give me that much respect, but you're barking up the wrong tree here. In this case, I'm no mastermind, Mafia wasted that roleblock which is good for our White Spy. Keep it on me all you want Mafia
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 09:30:04 am
No Vote(17):✰Alpha✰, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC Night 1 Kill: Red Spy, Missing Person, RadicalFuzz Day 1 Lynch: Solid Snake, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(1):Pimp Willy
The Chief(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 09:32:03 am
@Cobalt - Eh? Oh, you want an explanation. Yeah, just not a read I would've taken as mafia.

@Augustus - I just feel his alignment will be telling. He hasn't has a chance to be dirty (until late day 1).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:35:22 am
Vote Registered For Augustus

Is the supposed fake post the extent of your reasoning?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:36:48 am
@Bious

You messed up the player list.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 09:38:27 am
In this case, I'm no mastermind, Mafia wasted that roleblock which is good for our White Spy. Keep it on me all you want Mafia
This seems really awkwardly worded and forced.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 09:38:32 am
@Augustus - I have said before that some players get a veteran pass for day 1.

This is more evidence that you are not reading my posts.

I would not have voted anyone who I have extensive game experience with.

This was blatantly ignored by you (and others) as you piled on to him to save Wilgy and TGG.

After "my bro" was mislynched, I suggested you and your buddies check out Lenscrafters. They usually have discounts on eyeware for the reading impared.

You ignored that post too.

At this point your posts are only taking up space on my cell phone screen.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 09:41:11 am
Vote Registered For Augustus

I appreciate that you give me that much respect, but you're barking up the wrong tree here. In this case, I'm no mastermind, Mafia wasted that roleblock which is good for our White Spy. Keep it on me all you want Mafia

I'm down.

Vote Registered For Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:41:18 am
Chief, I think you're not reading my posts.

(I can do that too.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:41:48 am
lol, good luck.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 09:45:06 am
lol, good luck.

I've already said that I won't be able to lynch you. You nonchalant attitude about it is valid.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 09:49:36 am
... I won't be able to lynch you.

Heh. Feeling the same about you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 09:53:05 am
Player list (hopefully) fixed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 09:53:33 am
Is the supposed fake post the extent of your reasoning?


This is for starting the CFD on RadicalFuzz and saving TGG
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 09:55:36 am
Heh. Feeling the same about you.

Reflection? Please tell me this hasn't been your strategy for all of the mafia games you've played. Because if you're mafia, that is some weak tech.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 10:00:04 am
No Vote(14):✰Alpha✰, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
The Chief(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:01:19 am
Reflection? Please tell me this hasn't been your strategy for all of the mafia games you've played. Because if you're mafia, that is some weak tech.

Dunno what you're talking about. I'm saying nobody is listening to me and it's annoying.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:04:20 am
Also, also.

Excuse me, but I am a champion.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:04:40 am
Dunno what you're talking about. I'm saying nobody is listening to me and it's annoying.

People are listening to you. You asked TGG to vote Fuzz and he did.

You mentioned the TGG and Wilgy wagon were weak/lame... people moved votes.

What make you feel noone is listening?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:07:40 am
For your memory.

TGG, vote Fuzz for glory that might not be glory.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 10, 2017, 10:08:37 am
What is CFD?

Anyway, seeing a quarrel this early into the day phase, I won't be in the least bit surprised to see one between Chief and Augustus be mafia at this point.

More importantly, MP has gone quiet for a bit after attempting to look like the town leader (or town crier depending on how you take his initial gift of gab). What's up there?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 10:14:28 am
What is CFD?

Chinese Fire Drill.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-05-2015/7rWO-5.gif)

Think this but with vote-switching. Basically a last minute flash wagon.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:27:15 am
This is for starting the CFD on RadicalFuzz and saving TGG

You don't even know TGG's alignment! You're not supposed to anyway. Are you serious?

That reasoning doesn't make any sense unless you know for sure TGG is a wolf. Fuzz stuff is whatever. I messed up there. That's fair.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 10, 2017, 10:28:52 am
Anyone, but especially because it's easy to drop the enforce on the Black Bomberman because with no active vig, he's completely safe to enforce on night one.

They would still want to try and enforce the medic or UC thought no?

For your memory.

Would scum Aug ask a fellow scum to switch his vote outside of the mafia thread thought? Or should we assume that tgg is civ in that case?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:31:32 am
] What make you feel noone is listening?

That I feel you're being wolfy but people are ignoring it cos Chief is supposed to be all cool and mysterious and s***.

Also, don't agree I get credit for what everyone else did. Only one I feel responsible for was TGG voting Fuzz, but I don't particularly care for the attention of someone who's not even playing yet.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:39:18 am
That I feel you're being wolfy but people are ignoring it cos Chief is supposed to be all cool and mysterious and s***.

Also, don't agree I get credit for what everyone else did. Only one I feel responsible for was TGG voting Fuzz, but I don't particularly care for the attention of someone who's not even playing yet.

So you're frustrated that people aren't voting to lynch me day one.

That is retarded... even when you yourself SAID you would not vote to lynch me day one. (Don't make me go get the post.)

Wow, I'm sorry Augustus. I know you're a champion and stuff, but it def didn't come from racking up wins as mafia. lol

So mow, you don't want to take credit for people listening to you because you didn't expect them to listen to you.

TGG came out of nowhere claiming to be unaware that the game started, voted no vote then within moments trusted your God like read on Fuzz and blindly trusted your request.

Now that I've help you become aware that people are listening to you... how else can I help you not make a fool of yourself?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:44:29 am
They would still want to try and enforce the medic or UC thought no?

Would scum Aug ask a fellow scum to switch his vote outside of the mafia thread thought? Or should we assume that tgg is civ in that case?

I like this.

Not to sidestep your question, but I hope this shows you why I think people on my list should die at some point for clarity. This includes the 2 names you're asking about.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:51:50 am
Wow, I'm sorry Augustus. I know you're a champion and stuff, but it def didn't come from racking up wins as mafia. lol

Technically, that's how it happened. Lolsmd

And that's the only thing I'm gonna respond to cos I'm already bored with this exchange.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:54:00 am
You made me get the post...

This is what you want people to listen to... but they were not listening to on day 1.

I personally wouldn't lynch Chief D1 either. Just saying he's here but being a non-presence so far. Also, expect something better from him than making a TGG vote (boring).

Don't vote Chief day 1 but you're annoyed that people aren't looking to vote chief on day one.

Remember my "there's some serious wtf going on with Augustus" comment you asked about? This is an example.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 10:55:21 am
There's a difference between wanting to lynch you D1 and wanting you to not go unopposed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:55:39 am
Technically, that's how it happened. Lolsmd

And that's the only thing I'm gonna respond to cos I'm already bored with this exchange.

I'm bored with it too. You just  caught me at a moment when I had time to elaborate.

Until next time...
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 10:58:06 am
There's a difference between wanting to lynch you D1 and wanting you to not go unopposed.

Uh we're done remember?

It is impossible for me to go unopposed. Regardless of you calling for it, people will be watching my activity by default
. I was #1 for quite some time champ. =)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 10:59:40 am
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

This is the natural course of action. No LimeGreenPenis on my watch.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 11:00:04 am
No Vote(13):✰Alpha✰, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 11:01:36 am
I was talking about the Game of Champions tourney.

-insert pretentious guffaw-

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 11:06:39 am
I was talking about the Game of Champions tourney.

-insert pretentious guffaw-

Yeah, if I was just a little less abrasive, I would've taken every invite to those game of champions I've received.

...Guess I'll just settle for being an all star in every all star game we've ever had. Shrug.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 11:13:24 am
They would still want to try and enforce the medic or UC thought no?

Yes, but Night One is the most low-risk night for UC checks with godfather and largest possible playerlist, and medic is easy to avoid if you don't pick the likely targets for night kill.

It's easy to pass those up for a potential early clear is what I'm saying.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 12:00:27 pm
Day Two: battle of the egos.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 12:03:42 pm
Yes, but Night One is the most low-risk night for UC checks with godfather and largest possible playerlist, and medic is easy to avoid if you don't pick the likely targets for night kill.

It's easy to pass those up for a potential early clear is what I'm saying.

Even though its trying to throw shade on me, I like the thought process, its the sort of shit I like to pull when I'm mafia. I'm just not. Which means whoever is running things is going for a less mind fuck, and more brute force method of winning. I don't know if that really narrows down the list of potential mafia, but just keep that in mind when you guys do see I'm civilian after I'm dead.

Granted, its also been a tactic by the mafia to turn something that SHOULD help them get cleared, spun into a way to make them look dirty. Which may well be whats happening here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 10, 2017, 12:09:35 pm
Linking the writeups to the first post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 12:10:10 pm
Day Two: battle of the egos.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

He started it. He can cash me outside. How bow dat.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 01:23:54 pm
Knock knock.

Anyone there?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 01:25:20 pm
Even though its trying to throw shade on me, I like the thought process, its the sort of shit I like to pull when I'm mafia. I'm just not. Which means whoever is running things is going for a less mind fuck, and more brute force method of winning. I don't know if that really narrows down the list of potential mafia, but just keep that in mind when you guys do see I'm civilian after I'm dead.

Granted, its also been a tactic by the mafia to turn something that SHOULD help them get cleared, spun into a way to make them look dirty. Which may well be whats happening here.

I really don't like this post.

It's so "LALALALALA" to me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 02:06:18 pm
The Lovers should definitely claim now that Cupid is dead.

As for Pimp being Enforced, I'm gonna call it as leaning towards a Civ Enforce. I'd expect Pimp to very lightly breadcrumb a role as Mafia (lightly enough that he could back out of it at any point), so he could justify the Enforce if needed. I can't find anything like that, so I'm going with Mafia looking for roles. That's likely to be, what happened in the end.

Vote Registered For The Co-Jones

Time to put your money where your mouth is in terms of wallflowers.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 02:30:03 pm
No Vote(12):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
Invalid Vote(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 02:56:59 pm
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones

Still used to the SRK format.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 03:00:03 pm
No Vote(12):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
DrWilgy(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:25:53 pm
There's three people I want dead today:

Pimp Willy (Don't think I'm not aware of your Yomi power plays as Mafia, then your ability to call them out as you're doing them)
Cyntalan
DrWilgy

I'm not voting for anyone else barring major slips.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:26:09 pm
Or if Cop got a red check.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 03:32:36 pm


The Lovers should definitely claim now that Cupid is dead.
Can you (and would you) explain why? I'm having trouble seeing

I suddenly like people on MP's lists and that bothers me :( not sure if it's because of a change in him or me

PW is still sus Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:37:55 pm
Can you (and would you) explain why? I'm having trouble seeing

I suddenly like people on MP's lists and that bothers me :( not sure if it's because of a change in him or me

PW is still sus Vote Registered For Pimp Willy


I should've written it backwards, because DrWilgy should be first on the block.

Or maybe not? I mean, jasonC gets killed as town. I had it that if Syn is town, then PW and jason is scum. Then jason dying is town is supposed to absolve PW and make Syn look bad, because you would actually kill your top town read to make it look like people are stifling everyone who reads you as town. Moreover, if Syn looks bad, then that's supposed to draw away attention from PW because who would spew like that?

Starting to view Syn as town myself.

Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:39:02 pm
Enforce can be done on mafia. Pimp is not scared of doing weird yomi shit as mafia. It's why the entire MU22 thing happened game one.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 03:48:14 pm
Reaching pretty hard there guys, is nobody else wondering why they're trying so hard to get me gone, that they're already resorting to convincing themselves (and trying to convince you guys) that the enforce on me was some sort of yomi trick? Instead of anything concrete and valid, they're already resorting to Jesus Toast votes on day 2. Lol.

Don't fall into their plans. Vote Augustus like a true american
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:53:56 pm
Reaching pretty hard there guys, is nobody else wondering why they're trying so hard to get me gone, that they're already resorting to convincing themselves (and trying to convince you guys) that the enforce on me was some sort of yomi trick? Instead of anything concrete and valid, they're already resorting to Jesus Toast votes on day 2. Lol.

Don't fall into their plans. Vote Augustus like a true american

That's some Donald Trump level stuff.

#MAGA, get rid of GTF?

Cmon, son.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 03:54:11 pm
#GimpPimp
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
No Vote(11):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):ForgeDigger, Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 04:31:09 pm
@Cobalt I wanted to know what your plan for this phase is.

@The Chief If you had to lynch one of these three, which would you pick?
-Blindknagg
-FPSG
-Reiraku

@Missing Person Thoughts on Cyntalan?

@ZOOLANDER You going to check-in for day 2 my nigga?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cobalt on February 10, 2017, 04:35:43 pm
@Cobalt I wanted to know what your plan for this phase is.
My plan is to go back over the people of which I'm suspicious (of which you are one) and choose the best lynch candidate.

But for now, watching him under pressure is interesting so Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 04:37:16 pm
Can you (and would you) explain why? I'm having trouble seeing

Because Lovers wouldn't claim if one of them was Mafia, and as of Day 2, there's a 45% chance that at least one of the Lovers is not a Civ (assuming that RadicalFuzz wasn't one of the Lovers). So I'm going under the assumption that the Lovers are against us until they claim.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 04:45:15 pm
@Synonym, my thoughts on Cynt haven't changed from here:

http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47371.html#msg47371

Read my 3 consecutive posts from there.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 04:54:08 pm
There's three people I want dead today:

Pimp Willy (Don't think I'm not aware of your Yomi power plays as Mafia, then your ability to call them out as you're doing them)
Cyntalan
DrWilgy

I'm not voting for anyone else barring major slips.

Also why I put his name here.

I want to hear from @Reiraku and @Fruit Punch Samurai G
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 05:00:05 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Pimp Willy(3):Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Missing Person
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 05:03:48 pm
Because Lovers wouldn't claim if one of them was Mafia, and as of Day 2, there's a 45% chance that at least one of the Lovers is not a Civ (assuming that RadicalFuzz wasn't one of the Lovers). So I'm going under the assumption that the Lovers are against us until they claim.

Building on this, if Fuzz was one of the Lovers, the other one may as well claim and confirm themselves as non-Mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 05:19:38 pm
Wouldn't Bious have confirmed that Fuzz was a lover in the write-up?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 05:21:17 pm
Another piece in the Pimp Willy/Augustus vortex:

RadicalFuzz(5):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, DrWilgy, Synonym, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
DrWilgy(4):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(3):Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, The Chief
Cyntalan(2):Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger

Why is he bitching about Augustus not going back to Wilgy if he wasn't even there in the first place nor intended to be?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Reiraku on February 10, 2017, 05:38:45 pm
I'm at work right now, so I can't get too in depth. I would like to know why Alpha voted for Co-Jones. Also, Syn seems kinda sus to me just from the jumping around last round. PW didn't seem too bad until that last post. Also, I have a weird feeling about Augustus with that "Oops, I was too late!" play.

Also, where is Zoo at? Not talking isn't helping his case at all. I distrust lurkers most of all.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 10, 2017, 05:42:23 pm
Am around. Have nothing important to post though.

Waiting for Wilgy and Co-Jones to do stuff. May end up on one of them depending on their play this phase. Or Cyntalan if he's just gonna < 3 post again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 05:59:38 pm
Got all The-Co-Jones' posts so far here:

After my long ass hiatus, I'm back playing (mostly because Bious asked me)

I've skimmed over the past couple of pages and I've noted a couple of things:

Alpha is playing too reserved, and that's not a good sign.

There's too many wallflowers and while it may be OK to not say much at the start because there's almost nothing to go on, it'll become problematic

Chief playing the noob card is suspect...

And I forgot how to place my vote LOL
I didn't post earlier in the day since I had forgotten my JTM login info.

I've been reading posts and looking to see who hasn't said a thing and Wigly, TGG and Zoo.

I cannot remember what tgg has said to warrant a vote, but like it was mentioned earlier, just let the no shows get DQd and spend the vote on someone else.

For now I'll let my vote stay for Vote Registered For DrWigly
I'm currently at work but I'll read over what happens when I get out from work today  :)
Aww ffs, I didn't get a chance to correct my vote. I was saying the wrong damn name the whole time!!!

Well I am certain his ass is scum and I doubt I'll get offed because I'm sure the scum will wanna use me, but screw em.

With the vigi not working till the medic is dead, it changes up  a lot of things because by the time the vigi becomes active, it may become too late.
Augustus and wilgy seem sus

Few notes about the above:
-All of his comments about people are negative (with the possible exception of TGG)
-3/5 of his posts have been about him reading posts
-"Wallflowers are bad" - 5 posts

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45366695/Press.png)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 06:01:40 pm
@Synonym, my thoughts on Cynt haven't changed from here:

http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,887.msg47371.html#msg47371

Read my 3 consecutive posts from there.
So nothing about the end of day or night phase changes it for you?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 06:04:37 pm


I'm at work right now, so I can't get too in depth. I would like to know why Alpha voted for Co-Jones. Also, Syn seems kinda sus to me just from the jumping around last round. PW didn't seem too bad until that last post. Also, I have a weird feeling about Augustus with that "Oops, I was too late!" play.

Also, where is Zoo at? Not talking isn't helping his case at all. I distrust lurkers most of all.

I will always be fluid with my vote unless I am positive of someone's guilt.

When you get back from work perhaps you can comment of the Augustus/chief fight.



Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm
@Cobalt I wanted to know what your plan for this phase is.

@The Chief If you had to lynch one of these three, which would you pick?
-Blindknagg
-FPSG
-Reiraku

@Missing Person Thoughts on Cyntalan?

@ZOOLANDER You going to check-in for day 2 my nigga?

@Synonym - Just so you know... vonvorto asked me the exact same question in a different way.

I don't recall you ever mentioning you feel one of them was dirty. Why would you need me to select a name to sling suspicion at?

How about you tell me which one you're looking at and I'll tell you what I've seen from them.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 06:11:54 pm
So nothing about the end of day or night phase changes it for you?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



Not really. While he's right that TGG would likely have already been pinged if he was scum, that doesn't inherently mean that he's town saying that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 06:15:34 pm
Also Cyntalan's been "around" all day without saying anything.

I don't like this at all.

Vote Registered For Cyntalan
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 06:30:03 pm
No Vote(10):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, Synonym, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
Cyntalan(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 10, 2017, 06:39:39 pm
Also Cyntalan's been "around" all day without saying anything.

I don't like this at all.

Vote Registered For Cyntalan

First off, why do you have such a hate-on for me? Seems like all I can be to you is scum, since the start. What exactly have I done to cause you think this?

Second, me being "around" means little, as I have a auto-refresh running that pops every 10 minutes. Regardless of whether I'm actually reading the thread.

Now, I'm out from work 'til Monday, so I will be more than happy to take some time to scour this thread for reads (other than you and your town leader shtick), but that is neither here nor there. You, of all people, MP, should know how I play. I'm a wallflower at the best of times early on, later on throughout the game, I become more active as I have more information to go on (or rather, more active for me). Frankly, I've never been able to understand what to really do the first day or two without just watching people blow up over nothing and make you wish you just had not spoken in the first place.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 07:45:55 pm
At this point I think MP has to be the bomber man; I mean I hope for his sake he's pretending to suck and not actually this bad
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 08:19:31 pm


@Synonym - Just so you know... vonvorto asked me the exact same question in a different way.

I don't recall you ever mentioning you feel one of them was dirty. Why would you need me to select a name to sling suspicion at?

How about you tell me which one you're looking at and I'll tell you what I've seen from them.

I know, that's why I asked you.

As for why I chose this three, well, humour me. I feel that they aren't getting enough airtime.

I don't want to prejudice your decision making.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 10, 2017, 08:20:25 pm
First off, why do you have such a hate-on for me? Seems like all I can be to you is scum, since the start. What exactly have I done to cause you think this?

Second, me being "around" means little, as I have a auto-refresh running that pops every 10 minutes. Regardless of whether I'm actually reading the thread.

Now, I'm out from work 'til Monday, so I will be more than happy to take some time to scour this thread for reads (other than you and your town leader shtick), but that is neither here nor there. You, of all people, MP, should know how I play. I'm a wallflower at the best of times early on, later on throughout the game, I become more active as I have more information to go on (or rather, more active for me). Frankly, I've never been able to understand what to really do the first day or two without just watching people blow up over nothing and make you wish you just had not spoken in the first place.
I'm convinced.

Vote Registered For ZOOLANDER

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 08:30:04 pm
No Vote(9):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
Cyntalan(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 10, 2017, 08:54:16 pm

I know, that's why I asked you.

As for why I chose this three, well, humour me. I feel that they aren't getting enough airtime.

I don't want to prejudice your decision making.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Well, I think they're doing just enough to get by.

BK is paying attention, reading the thread.
Reiraku is prime mafia bait. People seem to want him gone but won't vote for him.
FPSG is not a full fledged wallflower and could be lumped in to TGG, Cyntalan and Co Jones category as lynch able but won't be lynched. He's worth keeping just to see whos making throw away votes.

In any case, I'd prefer to stick to my current list until given reason to deviate.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 10, 2017, 09:42:48 pm
Interesting idea about the lovers. Not sure I agree tho; couldn't a civ lover and a mafia lover claim together? We wouldn't know if they were both civ, yeah? Hrm

You got any town reads Willy?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The-Co-Jones on February 10, 2017, 10:10:33 pm
I don't know why alpha is getting a hard on for me, but whatevs...


I have noticed that TGG and wilgy seem sus, but TGG appears higher for me due to his easy "persuasion"

I'm not liking it

I also haven't seen anything on Wilgy. Since my old vote was fucked up I'd like to make sure it's correct this time around.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 10:30:04 pm
No Vote(8):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
DrWilgy(1):The-Co-Jones
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
Cyntalan(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Reiraku on February 10, 2017, 10:49:51 pm
Ok, so now that I've had a bit of time to read and catch up. I'm not entirely sure what to make of the exchange between Chief and Aug. Chief makes some really good points, but that also gets undermined by PW's support of the Aug vote that seemed to read off to me. Also, has Wilgy posted since all this started happening? It would be weird for him to be quiet after he came so close to a lynching already.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 10, 2017, 11:00:04 pm
No Vote(7):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(2):Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
Cyntalan(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 10, 2017, 11:01:12 pm
I don't know why alpha is getting a hard on for me, but whatevs...


I have noticed that TGG and wilgy seem sus, but TGG appears higher for me due to his easy "persuasion"

I'm not liking it

I also haven't seen anything on Wilgy. Since my old vote was fucked up I'd like to make sure it's correct this time around.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

I mean I clearly listed my reasons, but ok; don't know why.

So to counter one of my points, name some people that you think don't "seem sus".
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 10, 2017, 11:18:32 pm
Interesting idea about the lovers. Not sure I agree tho; couldn't a civ lover and a mafia lover claim together? We wouldn't know if they were both civ, yeah? Hrm

You got any town reads Willy?

My top 3 town reads

Syn
Cobalt
BK
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Missing Person on February 10, 2017, 11:32:47 pm
If I'm not getting a Cynt lynch then...

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 12:00:04 am
No Vote(7):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(3):Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 11, 2017, 01:47:22 am
Interesting idea about the lovers. Not sure I agree tho; couldn't a civ lover and a mafia lover claim together? We wouldn't know if they were both civ, yeah? Hrm

You got any town reads Willy?

Assuming that Fuzz was not a lover we could always kill one of them to check if they're civ/mafia or mafia/mafia. Seems like a waste of a vote at this stage though and imo it's unlikely that a civ/mafia duo would not have told the each other their alignment.

I have noticed that TGG and wilgy seem sus, but TGG appears higher for me due to his easy "persuasion"

I'm not liking it

I also haven't seen anything on Wilgy. Since my old vote was fucked up I'd like to make sure it's correct this time around.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

I might be reading this the wrong way but do you suspect tgg over wilgy to be mafia aligned? Or is "but TGG appears higher for me"  towards the civ side of the scale?

If not why Wilgy over him today?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 11, 2017, 06:58:03 am
If I'm not getting a Cynt lynch then...

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
But your vote was on Willy...
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 11, 2017, 07:02:22 am


Also, has Wilgy posted since all this started happening? It would be weird for him to be quiet after he came so close to a lynching already.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

I also haven't seen anything on Wilgy. Since my old vote was fucked up I'd like to make sure it's correct this time around.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

I find it strange that these were one after another. Maybe I've got my tinfoil hat on too tight
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 11, 2017, 08:58:21 am
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Take me out. I don't have time to play this weekend and if culling me helps stop a circular vote thought process or discussion so be it. The people I'm suspicious of are MP and TCJ.

I still have problems with Mp's logic and problem solving. I do still have the tonal baddie read on him.

CJ's vote was bad, and still is bad. "Let's lynch the wallflower that has at least had an opinion, but not myself or Zoo"

Reiraku's "aha, MP said so, let's vote Wilgy  <3 <3" is bs. Clearly they aren't willing to put their neck out.

Sorry I still owe you FPSG. Good luck team.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 09:00:03 am
No Vote(6):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(4):DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 11, 2017, 09:45:44 am
If I'm not getting a Cynt lynch then...

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

So you're not going to respond to me either, eh? Keep lookin' helpful without actually being so. Gotcha.

Remind me, @Bious - no-votes get auto-dropped after 2 consecutive day phases, right? If so, anyone throwing out a Wilgy vote at this point I feel is worth being suspect about. Bet on at least 2 mafia being in the oncoming dogpile.

Meanwhile, anyone who wants to actually keep looking for scum instead of voting out a long-hanging fruit that will fall out on their own anyway, please, continue.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: vonvorto on February 11, 2017, 09:49:20 am
I'll get to this when I'm not at work. Or hungover.

The Wilgy wagon should disperse.

Vote Registered For Synonym

Will also support a Blindknagg wagon.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 10:00:04 am
No Vote(5):Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(4):DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
The Chief(1):Augustus
The-Co-Jones(1):✰Alpha✰
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 11, 2017, 10:14:09 am
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Take me out. I don't have time to play this weekend and if culling me helps stop a circular vote thought process or discussion so be it. The people I'm suspicious of are MP and TCJ.

CJ's vote was bad, and still is bad. "Let's lynch the wallflower that has at least had an opinion, but not myself or Zoo"

I like this.

Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones

Though it wouldn't hurt if @The-Co-Jones expands on why he finds Wilgy sus and answer my previous question.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 11, 2017, 10:29:42 am
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones


@XthAtGAm3RGuYX

Well? Since I'm protecting you and all.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 10:30:04 am
DrWilgy(4):DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
No Vote(4):Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The-Co-Jones(3):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Pimp Willy(2):Cobalt, ForgeDigger
Synonym(1):vonvorto
ZOOLANDER(1):Synonym
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 11, 2017, 11:56:18 am
Meant to be in here earlier but starting work at 2am, working in 5degrees for 7 hours, sleeping for 12, then going back to work at midnight, I've been pretty drained. Plus my laptop FINALLY crapped out and now I can't monitor votes the way I like to. From the tim I've had to read stuff nothing has particularly caught my eye. Real talk I skipped like 7 pages from day 1 because, well, it was nothing but day 1 gibberish like it always is. I don't really like how many people flipped off of me immediately after I made one post, and I will look into that once I figure out an alternative vote tracking method without my laptop. Might have to break out some paper and go buy a couple highlighters. Co-Jones doesn't really bother me. He locks on to me every game we play together for any reason and no reason.

As always you guys know I don't really even contribute these days until somebody flips mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 11:57:36 am
Also why I put his name here.

I want to hear from @Reiraku and @Fruit Punch Samurai G

Sorry, went out last night. I'm 4 pages behind. I'll post my thoughts as I read along.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 12:31:28 pm
How the fuck do you put Augustus town with that fake "Am I late?" Bullshit that got Fuzz lynched?

He was the entire reason people started piling on him anyway, to protect TGG apparently

I also considered this, it did seem a little fishy but I think I can buy his excuse.

I said I skimmed, and am still skimming. Yea I think syn is town and I can totally see the possibility of MP and Aug being mafia bros.

Maybe this is what got Jason killed. I'll probably go back and look at his post to see if he saw something else that made him a priority kill.

Regarding the the Chief and Aug, don't really see anything that sticks out too much in either of the posts, by that I mean neither of them seem scummy to me. I had them both in my town reads. At this point I still think Cynt is fishy.

First off, why do you have such a hate-on for me? Seems like all I can be to you is scum, since the start. What exactly have I done to cause you think this?

Second, me being "around" means little, as I have a auto-refresh running that pops every 10 minutes. Regardless of whether I'm actually reading the thread.

I can buy this. Though would be nice if you provided some general reads be it his top town or scum.

Town: Chief, Aug,Cobalt
Scum: Cynt (still but it my be my stubbornness that's keeping my tunnel vision here). Pimp, Dr. wilgy


Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cobalt on February 11, 2017, 12:33:05 pm
yeah wilgy can get dead I'm fine with that

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 11, 2017, 12:33:20 pm
As always you guys know I don't really even contribute these days until somebody flips mafia.

That's rather apparent this game.

I dont remember how ties work here, but if I'm still alive in Day 2 I'll give a shit and catch up.

So this doesn't apply anymore then?

Every single one of you knows my stance on wallflowers and absenteeism in mafia games

Hmm

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cobalt on February 11, 2017, 12:33:41 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Take me out. I don't have time to play this weekend and if culling me helps stop a circular vote thought process or discussion so be it. The people I'm suspicious of are MP and TCJ.

I still have problems with Mp's logic and problem solving. I do still have the tonal baddie read on him.

CJ's vote was bad, and still is bad. "Let's lynch the wallflower that has at least had an opinion, but not myself or Zoo"

Reiraku's "aha, MP said so, let's vote Wilgy  <3 <3" is bs. Clearly they aren't willing to put their neck out.

Sorry I still owe you FPSG. Good luck team.

mmmmmmmm

but this is a towny post though
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 12:33:59 pm
I'm not sure what to make of Wilgy's last post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 12:36:07 pm
mmmmmmmm

but this is a towny post though

Yh thats where my dilemma kicked in. I mean it could be a ploy to buy more time but I hardly ever see someone on the scum team voluntarily ask to be voted off even as a ploy 
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 11, 2017, 12:47:01 pm
That's rather apparent this game.

So this doesn't apply anymore then?

Well fuck you too faggot I'll just throw. Have fun being 2 civs down now.
Hmm
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 12:58:40 pm
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 01:00:03 pm
DrWilgy(5):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
No Vote(4):Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The-Co-Jones(4):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Synonym
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 11, 2017, 01:06:12 pm
Well fuck you too faggot I'll just throw. Have fun being 2 civs down now.

I might have come across as more offensive than I intended, but my point is that your stance that we shouldn't expect much from you in the early game because "that's what's to be expected from me in this meta" is a bad excuse to not contribute imo.

Yes you've been offed for being active before but your sacrifice was still valued to the team as a whole thanks to the info/insight you gave us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 11, 2017, 02:33:54 pm
I might have come across as more offensive than I intended, but my point is that your stance that we shouldn't expect much from you in the early game because "that's what's to be expected from me in this meta" is a bad excuse to not contribute imo.

Yes you've been offed for being active before but your sacrifice was still valued to the team as a whole thanks to the info/insight you gave us.

Whenever I am active everybody disregards what I say, and then when I die mafia twists what I said so they can dunk on civs. Fuck off with that
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 02:51:34 pm
So we've got like just under 2.5 hours left in this phase. I'd rather any final arguments made earlier on than later. I still stand by my vote on TCJ for his contradictions, lack of any solid reads with all the "reading" he's done and lack of reasoning behind most of his calls.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 03:08:09 pm
I'd rather see TCJ Over Wilgy... though Augustus is stll my primary target
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: The Chief on February 11, 2017, 03:09:15 pm
I'm fine with either of the 2 leading lynches going. But if anyone wants to clean their screen from useless posts, feel free to join my lynch vote.

I personally get a civ read from TCJ. Wilgy lynch is great for clarity.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 03:15:04 pm
We're going to lose a few wallflowers this phase unless they magically pop in to save themselves. Might as well cull off another offender.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 03:40:36 pm
Its looking like wilgy over tcj
Vote Registered For Dr. Wilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 11, 2017, 03:47:07 pm
Its looking like wilgy over tcj
Vote Registered For Dr. Wilgy

(http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/wtf.gif)...welp, you just went up on my suspect list.

Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 04:00:03 pm
DrWilgy(5):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
The-Co-Jones(5):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Synonym
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):Fruit Punch Samurai G
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 04:13:27 pm
Less than an hour left. I'd prefer it if we only had like at most 3 different candidates being voted for at the end of the Day.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 04:28:44 pm
Forge, von and tgg need to vote better. Zoo is gone this round if he doesn't vote.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 04:36:33 pm
I'm conflicted though, I find Wilgy more scummy. I like the players on TCJ better. I think I'll stick with my gut.
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 11, 2017, 04:36:36 pm
Hurp durp.

This phase has been boring and feels like people are just going through the motions right now (including me, tbh). Kinda feel like it would be more chaotic right now if a wolf was getting wagoned. Probably will still be worrying about one of these guys later on if they aren't taken out now though.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 11, 2017, 04:38:12 pm
Voting Jones for just rehashing things that people have already stated and not bringing anything original to the table, I guess.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 11, 2017, 04:39:24 pm
Keep in mind, Wilgy can just pop in and vote opposing wagon at the last second again, if anyone cares for that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Augustus on February 11, 2017, 04:47:24 pm
Cool talk.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 04:56:36 pm
Doesn't look like Mafia are going to organise a cfd so it's possibly t/t

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 04:57:32 pm
Let it be known that fpsg cast the deciding vote for wilgy.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 04:58:19 pm
Forge and von have both moved up my list of suspects for this phase.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 04:59:13 pm
1 min left. We're at 6 Wilgy, 5 Co-Jones. Well the people that promised that they'll get "information" from Wilgy's lynch had better step up Day 3.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 04:59:43 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy to stop any shenanigans.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 05:00:04 pm
DrWilgy(7):✰Alpha✰, Cobalt, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
The-Co-Jones(4):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Synonym
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(2):Pimp Willy, The Chief
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 05:00:23 pm
Regardless of the vote outcome both of them look bad.

Also, goodbye Zoolander. Thanks for all your valuable contributions.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 05:39:44 pm
Day ends in two and a half hours.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 05:51:55 pm
Did we make a switch from EST to PST mid game or something?

Am I too late?

kappa
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 05:52:22 pm
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 05:57:37 pm
Day ends in two and a half hours.
What happened to the timings?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 06:00:04 pm
DrWilgy(7):✰Alpha✰, Cobalt, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
The-Co-Jones(5):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, Synonym
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Augustus(1):The Chief
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 06:02:48 pm
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 06:06:28 pm
So much for stopping those shenanigans PogChamp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 06:08:38 pm
What happened to the timings?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

The timer? I couldn't find one.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 06:09:49 pm
@The Chief
@ForgeDigger
@vonvorto

Need to break the deadlock.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 06:15:08 pm
The timer? I couldn't find one.

Nah, I think last day phase ended at 5 post and this one is ending at like 8 post, was confusing
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 06:15:55 pm
So much for stopping those shenanigans PogChamp

Last minute shenanigans*. It's not last minute any more.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 06:20:54 pm
Nah, I think last day phase ended at 5 post and this one is ending at like 8 post, was confusing

Oh, I set it back to a regular schedule. I ran day 1 long.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 06:24:00 pm
The fact that no one, not even DrWilgy, tried to sway the vote away from him seems very telling I think and I may be wrong in my vote. idk though. I have an hour at least to think it over.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 06:25:32 pm
It's tied now right?
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 06:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(6):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
The-Co-Jones(6):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, Synonym
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Augustus(1):The Chief
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Cobalt on February 11, 2017, 07:17:13 pm
not voting with so many of my scumreads

but not sure about Wilgy anymore
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 07:22:28 pm
not voting with so many of my scumreads

but not sure about Wilgy anymore

I mean he did just get "lynched" at "EOD" with no objections, but ok.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 07:22:51 pm
Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 07:23:14 pm
basically for the reason I posted earlier.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 07:30:04 pm
The-Co-Jones(7):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, Synonym
DrWilgy(5):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Augustus(1):The Chief
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 07:35:27 pm
Phase ends at the next Jokebot Post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 07:41:14 pm
Mafia not worried about this EOD at all.

FOS on forge, von, chief and MP

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 07:46:52 pm
FOS?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 07:47:18 pm
FOS?

Yes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 11, 2017, 07:48:31 pm
Yes.

Fuckable on site?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 07:49:37 pm
Phase ends at the next Jokebot Post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/758137359695241216/kCFyHGp1.jpg)

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 07:49:57 pm
Fuckable on site?
Finger of suspicion

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 07:50:09 pm
Vote Registered For Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 07:53:44 pm
Finger of suspicion

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



Both relatable.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 11, 2017, 07:54:30 pm
After my first and only post I forgot about the game completely, think this is my first mafia in what 2 years?...it's almost night 2 and now I start to get active I just read all 17 pages within the last hour or so...some things never change lol.I'm super rusty and wayyyy too much information for me to really process all at once I don't have any hard reads on anyone including MP however, he's the only person I am definitely not willing to lynch anytime soon, because whether he's mafia or town he's behaving as his usual active self and you all know I believe talkative posters in the long run help weed out mafia one way or another.

FD and Chief are the only ones I even get a whiff of mafia from at the moment. FD mostly because his day 1 vote came out of nowhere and yes I'm aware day 1 in general is always a crapshoot, but his random ass vote and lack of all activity for the rest of day 1 only to be a lot more active following night 1 along with The Chief actually attempting to disscect the usefulness of day 1 page activity just don't sit right with me.


I have no idea how to read drwilgy's RC if you can call it that no evidence to go on, but my gut says to believe him so I'd rather take a chance vote on TCJ than on a more "sure" civ in drwilgy.


Vote Registered For thecojones

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 07:55:08 pm
Vote Registered For Missing Person
To force a tie or not to force a tie.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 11, 2017, 07:55:54 pm
In case my vote wasn't counted:

Vote Registered For The-Co-Jones
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 07:56:27 pm
God fucking damn it, now we have to waste a lynch on zoo because the phase for extended.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 07:57:44 pm
To force a tie or not to force a tie.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



I mean you asked for a change of pace I'm just delivering on it, though you're right I didn't realize I was in danger of forcing a tie
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 07:58:31 pm
Am I too late?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 11, 2017, 07:58:56 pm
As if it was ever going to be like that lol

Vote Registered For jasonC



So um, scrub post incomming. Please disregard.

Page 1 typical mafia page 1.
Page 2 was a pillow fight over a bag of stale Cheetos
Page 3 made me want to auto-vote MP.
This page (if it's stI'll 3) had me thinking we were nearing  deadline for some reason. No idea when it is/nub

So I'm gonna go look through the rules thread to see if I can get a handle on why people are playing funny.

PS - Cobalts hate of Alpha is genuine for some reason.





In case anyone is curious yes these are the 2 posts I was referring to that made me even the slightest bit suspicious of them.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 08:00:00 pm
Well then.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 08:00:04 pm
The-Co-Jones(7):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Synonym, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
No Vote(1):XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Augustus(1):The Chief
Missing Person(1):Pimp Willy
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 08:00:19 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 11, 2017, 08:00:28 pm
Am I too late?




Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the one who bitched at Augustus for pulling this "Am I too late" shit instead of actually voting?


Disregard if it wasn't you or if your post is meant to be sarcastic.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 11, 2017, 08:00:50 pm
Oh drat, I just missed it, damn sorry guys I tried my hardest
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 08:01:18 pm
Players
It is now night.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 08:01:28 pm
Oh drat, I just missed it, damn sorry guys I tried my hardest
Lol

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Synonym on February 11, 2017, 08:02:14 pm
Tcj please be bomber man and take zoo with you.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 2 (Deja Vu)
Post by: Bious on February 11, 2017, 08:11:31 pm
Day 2
The Oshawott Jones

"Here are your smokes back."

"Thanks. Where was I... Oh yeah. Next day Jones died. Pretty brutally too."

"What happened?"

"Well a gang of people were about to shoot Wilgy dead when all of a sudden Jones comes walking in the room, yawning, going like 'Hey guys, sorry I slept through yesterday, did I miss anything?' The room got silent and then everyone drew on him. He peed himself and turned to run, but he wasn't fast enough. He had more holes in him than a John Knowles novel."

"Ugly way to go."

"Yeah, and pointless too. He was clean. Anyway, then night arrived again..."

The-Co-Jones got High Noon'd! He was an Ordinary Spy!

IT IS NOW NIGHT. Night ends at 11:00 AM February 12th EST (So 12 hours from this post.)

Also @XthAtGAm3RGuYX missed vote, one more and DQ.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 11, 2017, 08:12:07 pm
Was busy all day, I didn't check anything recently.

For the record, I would've picked tcj over wilgy. Though I like a willy vote much better than either .-.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 11, 2017, 08:30:04 pm
No Vote(1): It is now night.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Missing Person on February 11, 2017, 09:40:44 pm
Are you guys fucking done listening to Pimp yet?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 09:46:25 pm
Well at least it's an easy lynch tomorrow on OZ.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: The Chief on February 11, 2017, 10:11:14 pm
@Synonym
@Augustus
@Alpha

All 3 of you got the read the TCJ was dirty?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 10:12:31 pm
@Synonym
@Augustus
@Alpha

All 3 of you got the read the TCJ was dirty?

I've only been making posts about it since the start of Day 2.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: ZOOLANDER on February 11, 2017, 10:15:05 pm
Hmmm bandwagon on me starting early, welp see you guys in the morning!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on February 11, 2017, 10:23:52 pm
Hmmm bandwagon on me starting early, welp see you guys in the morning!

It's the first thing about you that's started early this game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 12:03:15 am
Hmmm bandwagon on me starting early, welp see you guys in the morning!
Wat. You turned up literally minutes before the end of phase after contributing literally nothing these past two phases.

Instead of DQ'ing and giving us your alignment you instead voted to stay in the game.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 07:45:48 am
Night ends in 15 minutes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 08:00:02 am
Night is over.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 08:12:51 am
Night 2
Spy Kills Spy

"That night was actually a peaceful one. Best sleep I've gotten in a while. When we all woke up however we were treated to a bloodbath. There we found Alpha sitting in a chair, his throat slashed. Even worse, searching him revealed he was THE White Spy. A legend."

"He will be missed."

"Indeed. Got another smoke?"

"Here."

"Anyway, we put his body next to Radicalfuzz's. It seems like he would have wanted that."

"Anything else?"

"Ummm... Oh yeah, My intel shows that Black Widow was active that night, but she messed up."

"This is all sounding strangely familiar."

"I know. Anyway..."


Alpha got his throat cut! He was The White Spy!

IT IS NOW DAY. DAY ENDS AT 11:00 PM EST ON FEBRUARY 13TH.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 08:20:25 am
Quote
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
DrWilgy
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
Reiraku
Synonym
The Chief
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 08:24:50 am
Aw fuck! :(
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 08:36:21 am
So does that mean there was no enforce?

Also mafia seems to be on fire, wish I could take credit
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 08:42:12 am
So does that mean there was no enforce?

If I don't write it, it didn't happen.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 08:58:34 am
So the enforcer is likely one of the wallflowers then, barring any yomi plays from the mafia team.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 08:59:49 am
So the enforcer is likely one of the wallflowers then, barring any yomi plays from the mafia team.

Who has been afk all night?

Tgg? Wilgy?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 09:07:08 am
Pretty sure alpha checked me night 1 and then confirmed me early day 2 as civ, if you check his posts.

Willing to follow up on zoo today as my gut vote
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 09:07:48 am
Who has been afk all night?

Tgg? Wilgy?

Yepp. I also think Forge's been absent for most of the night phase.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:06:46 am
"Ummm... Oh yeah, My intel shows that Black Widow was active that night, but she messed up."

Someone wanna claim being visited?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:13:11 am
Pretty sure alpha checked me night 1 and then confirmed me early day 2 as civ, if you check his posts.

Willing to follow up on zoo today as my gut vote

While I agree with this, wolves still have the potential to screw up checks for half their team. So not sure how much weight that should hold.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:14:13 am
Hrm.. Need to reevaluate.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:17:55 am
Anyone have a strong opinion of BK? Like, if I had to make a read right now, I guess I'd lean on wolfy, but I've never been particularly good at reading him.

Also, think TGG's whole thing of just not doing anything is bs. Doing f*** all is what he did in his last two wolf games. (See? I really don't curr about him, Willy.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:20:01 am
@Synonym
@Augustus
@Alpha

All 3 of you got the read the TCJ was dirty?

Oh yeah, this.

Uh, yes and then it turned into 'sorta' just because of the inactivity going on during EOD.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 10:21:41 am
Sure, throw him under the bus now that he's under scrutiny, I get it
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:22:23 am
lmao
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 10:25:26 am
I've liked Bk this game, nothing he's done has indicated scum for me. Why do you see him as so?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 10:34:36 am
I've liked Bk this game, nothing he's done has indicated scum for me. Why do you see him as so?

Lack of impact. Though I guess that's typically how he plays so -shrug-.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 10:45:35 am
What are the chances the no enforce was done on purpose?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 12, 2017, 11:12:48 am
I'm checking in, been busy still with valentines weekend

We should verify if Pimp is actually cleared by alpha. Otherwise it's really only conjecture; no need to give him a free pass

I dont see mafia not enforcing on purpose unless they figured the doctor/detective was afk and (not or) they knew alpha was doctor/detective
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 01:23:47 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 01:30:04 pm
No Vote(1): It is now night.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 01:33:38 pm
Oops.

Players
It is now day
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 12, 2017, 01:36:21 pm
Players
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
DrWilgy
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
Reiraku
Synonym
The Chief
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Sorry bout that, I used the quote tag instead of players.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 01:45:16 pm
Vote Registered For Bious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 01:46:57 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Is this for him being potential Enforcer or for the same reasons as yesterday?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 01:48:06 pm
Is this for him being potential Enforcer or for the same reasons as yesterday?

He's the biggest question mark and every time he's about to be lynched, the CFD happens.

We need to stand in solidarity for once and not waver.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 12, 2017, 01:53:01 pm
Turns out that chief is the traitor.

Still haven't read recently.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 12, 2017, 01:54:40 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 01:56:10 pm
Turns out that chief is the traitor.

Still haven't read recently.

Interesting

Vote Registered For The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 01:58:52 pm
He's the biggest question mark and every time he's about to be lynched, the CFD happens.

We need to stand in solidarity for once and not waver.


There was no CFD for wilgy last phase infact he was lynched before the two hours were added. No one came to his aid before then, infact last lynch was pretty quiet at the end.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 02:00:04 pm
No Vote(11):Augustus, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(2):DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G
DrWilgy(1):Missing Person
Invalid Vote(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:00:48 pm
Turns out that chief is the traitor.

Still haven't read recently.

We know this because...?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 02:02:30 pm
We know this because...?

I assume Wilgy claims he's the one who was visited last night.

Will hold of on my vote for Chief for now in case something comes up.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:03:10 pm
I assume Wilgy claims he's the one who was visited last night.

Will hold of on my vote for Chief for now in case something comes up.

But it showed up in the write-up last game when Alpha pulled the Hail Satan on FPSG.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:03:59 pm
I'll follow suit on the basis that "Bious fails at writeups" and hope that it was a judgment error, considering it gets revealed in write-up when it happens historically.

Vote Registered For The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:04:37 pm
IF Chief shows up as Traitor, then that clears Wilgy and I can look back over the thread based on that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 02:04:44 pm
But it showed up in the write-up last game when Alpha pulled the Hail Satan on FPSG.
Lol. What? that was the last time we played this game...not that it actually happened I would never be that dumb.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 12, 2017, 02:05:27 pm
Turns out that chief is the traitor.

Still haven't read recently.

Wait wait wait...

Didn't you bow out?

(http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/bluu.gif)

New question for all: Wilgy or Chief first? Do we hang Wilgy and risk him lying about Chief, or do we hang Chief and determine Wilgy's allegiance?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:06:56 pm
Lol. What? that was the last time we played this game...not that it actually happened I would never be that dumb.

Hail Satan.

Lynch: Fruit Punch Samurai G

No, I'm not quitting.

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/3507yu7037.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 02:07:13 pm
But it showed up in the write-up last game when Alpha pulled the Hail Satan on FPSG.

"Ummm... Oh yeah, My intel shows that Black Widow was active that night, but she messed up."

I think this indicates she visited a civ tonight or am I missing something?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 02:08:01 pm
That's clearly photoshopped. 8)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:08:11 pm
Wait wait wait...

Didn't you bow out?

(http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/bluu.gif)

New question for all: Wilgy or Chief first? Do we hang Wilgy and risk him lying about Chief, or do we hang Chief and determine Wilgy's allegiance?

Chief.

We need to put this Wilgy thing to bed, and if Wilgy is lying about Chief, then we can decisively lynch him tomorrow.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:09:39 pm
Unless there's a counter claim on getting visited by traitor, we stick on Chief.

If there's a counter, we lynch both if we don't hit the real one today, lynching the liar first imo.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 02:10:07 pm
I think this indicates she visited a civ tonight or am I missing something?

Nah, you're not missing anything the write-up said the same thing last time when I "allegedly" made the mistake of coming out as traitor to a civ.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 02:10:56 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief

Loooool!!!

You got some NUTS!

So explain to me how this all works out Wilgy. You reveal yourself to me, find out I'm not mafia, then suddenly try to get me lynched!?

This is brilliant. I can't even hate.

You and TCJ should swap names. YOU are The CoJones. Lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 02:11:45 pm
(https://media.tenor.co/images/54451401d52c0dd2fe9ee5752857d53c/raw)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 12, 2017, 02:12:07 pm
Chief.

We need to put this Wilgy thing to bed, and if Wilgy is lying about Chief, then we can decisively lynch him tomorrow.

Fair enough. I would like to know why the hell he said he was bowing out and then when he didn't get lynched, he's suddenly back.

Vote Registered For The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 02:15:50 pm
Loooool!!!

You got some NUTS!

So explain to me how this all works out Wilgy. You reveal yourself to me, find out I'm not mafia, then suddenly try to get me lynched!?

This is brilliant. I can't even hate.

You and TCJ should swap names. YOU are The CoJones. Lol

Since a new thread started I guess i'll bring this quote. It's getting fun now though.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
No Vote(10):Augustus, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(4):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person
Invalid Vote(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:50:16 pm
God damn it.

I actually believe Chief over Wilgy.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Self-preservation vote + self-vote day 2 + reachy pick night 2 = desperate traitor fmpov
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 02:51:12 pm
This was also why I said I was okay with Chief early, and wouldn't explain why.

Also, who asked me to explain why I was okay with Chief?

Wilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 02:51:40 pm
Quoting my day 1 read here.

This is my "Need to die at some point in the game" list:
DrWilgy
TGG
Missing Person
Augustus

Given this is day 1.5, they don't have to die immediately.

Missing Person is mafia. Lynch him when I turn up civ please.

Wilgy is Black Widow. Still trying to get my head around why he would push a lynch on me. My best guess is trying to do mafia a favor and get rid of me. MP didn't even flinch and the chance to lynch me. Lolol

Tonight Wilgy will likely reveal himself to MP and become mafia. We there he dies or not, he would get the win as mafia since they seem to be doing well so far.

lol - I think this is the first time someone has tried something like this on me. Feels kind of cool.

Let's see if Wilgy can keep up the charade. Lol I'm so hype.

Let's go!
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 03:00:04 pm
No Vote(10):Augustus, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(3):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G
DrWilgy(1):Missing Person
Invalid Vote(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 03:11:27 pm
I think it's much more likely that Wilgy targeted Chief over Chief targeting Wilgy.

Also sucks that Alpha was the UC. Zzzz.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 03:11:46 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 03:30:04 pm
No Vote(9):Augustus, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, Synonym, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(3):Cyntalan, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G
DrWilgy(2):Cobalt, Missing Person
Invalid Vote(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 03:31:40 pm
Lol at anyone who didn't figure out Alpha had a role. Guessing at least one person between Augustus, MP or cobalt on Mafia that made that read.

Oz needs to die soon but I'm okay lynching wilgy.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 12, 2017, 03:37:16 pm
*grumbles semicoherently about a flipflopping MP*

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 12, 2017, 03:40:39 pm
Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
No Vote(8):Augustus, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Synonym
The Chief(2):DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 04:22:39 pm
Lol at anyone who didn't figure out Alpha had a role. Guessing at least one person between Augustus, MP or cobalt on Mafia that made that read.

Oz needs to die soon but I'm okay lynching wilgy.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



It's MP and Augustus, bet it
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:24:21 pm
I knew Alpha was roled, but he pinged me dirty early. I decided not to push further because I knew he was roled.

But as much as I'm going to refrain from calling someone roled as mafia, I'm going to refrain from it doubly as town. No sense in doing scum's work in role hunting.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:26:47 pm
It's MP and Augustus, bet it

If you really think it's me after all of this, then you seriously need to hand the computer over to Charlie.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 04:26:59 pm
The question is, if you were traitor, who would you have picked last night? Chief or wilgy?

Presenting to Chief would be a hail mary

Presenting to Wilgy after his play takes the Kind of balls the chief actually has

Vote Registered For The Chief

Sorry bro
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 04:27:39 pm
If you really think it's me after all of this, then you seriously need to hand the computer over to Charlie.

I'm pretty confident you are the T4T trying to go out with a bang, its the only reason you're playing so bad. Or you're the Third Party trying to drag the game out by playing terribly
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 04:30:04 pm
No Vote(7):Augustus, ForgeDigger, Reiraku, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Synonym
The Chief(3):DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
The question is, if you were traitor, who would you have picked last night? Chief or wilgy?

Presenting to Chief would be a hail mary

Presenting to Wilgy after his play takes the Kind of balls the chief actually has

Vote Registered For The Chief

Sorry bro

If it were me I would've picked Wilgy.

He's acted dirty all game and has done a lot of desperation things just to stay alive. The only reason to do so is if he's roled, if he's traitor trying to stay alive so that he can get recruited so that he actually has a win condition, or he's mafia.

If it were the former, we would see evidence that he was trying to solve the game. There isn't such evidence, so that strikes the former out with a 2% chance he's just playing terribly as town.

So it has to be one of the two. So if I were traitor I'd contact him. Since I'm not, and the traitor failed a contact last night, then I have to believe he is with Chief pointing his finger at him.

As for Chief, Chief always plays with dirt on him to get people to be confused enough to leave him in till late game. Yes, we run the risk of him being dirty, but at the same time, he has a good reason to stay on the radar in this game format as opposed to others. No one's going to fall for an Alpha Hail Satan, it's too blatant now, but people WILL fall for Chief playing bad for the sake of looking bad.

I guarantee you that Wilgy shows up traitor and decided to make it look like Chief was visited. The problem is that he chose the guy that he visited, and now it's just a 50/50 mixup instead of a 33/33/33 mixup that could've done more damage. If Chief WERE bluffing about being visited by the traitor, I'd bet he would throw another name in the mix to further confuse players.

So we lynch Wilgy, find out that A) He is traitor, B) Chief is clean, and C) Wilgy didn't spew anyone and we can look further at other people and stop focusing on Wilgy.

My word is my bond that this is the right lynch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:37:22 pm
We know Wilgy didn't spew because he obviously didn't know who the mafia were, or he'd be mafia now instead of getting caught in a pseudo Hail Satan.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:39:44 pm
Oh yeah, and Wilgy being mafia ruled out since we have him pointing a finger at Chief visiting him, and Chief is reciprocal.

So that leaves one option. He is traitor.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:41:41 pm
I know I kneejerked the Chief vote first, but only did so before Chief flipped the claim onto Wilgy.

Let me say this: Who the fuck, other than FPSG, visits someone claiming to quit the game? Do you guys really want to say that Chief would do so?

I can understand FPSG falling for it, since Alpha was literally claiming mafia. Wilgy didn't do this, and Chief isn't going to do something so bad.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 04:43:17 pm
Sorry @Fruit Punch Samurai G, no offense. But there's no way that Chief would fall for this. But Wilgy could easily fall for Chief playing scummy like he always does early.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 04:43:40 pm
The question is, if you were traitor, who would you have picked last night? Chief or wilgy?

Presenting to Chief would be a hail mary

Presenting to Wilgy after his play takes the Kind of balls the chief actually has

Vote Registered For The Chief

Sorry bro


So you're basically saying that if I were traitor that I was absolutley certain Wilgy was mafia...

This makes absolutely no sense, but I'm not surprised song who posted it.

Carry on.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 05:01:57 pm
Greetings.

I have a snake on my left hand so this will be a short post.

I think DrWilgy getting constantly run up but not really suggests a long-term mislynch scum are using to keep focus off of them.

Vote Registered For The Chief

I think you played pretty well, but sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 05:02:47 pm
Also I apologize for my absence.

A good friend of mine is visiting and I haven't been totally sober this weekend.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 05:04:11 pm
Greetings.

I have a snake on my left hand so this will be a short post.

I think DrWilgy getting constantly run up but not really suggests a long-term mislynch scum are using to keep focus off of them.

Vote Registered For The Chief

I think you played pretty well, but sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles.

That's fine. If you're mafia, well played. If not, I overestimated you greatly.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 05:06:39 pm
Sticks and stones.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 05:10:44 pm
Sticks and stones.

I'm sorry. I really do mean well. lol

Use to dealing with a tougher crowd I guess.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 05:30:03 pm
No Vote(6):Augustus, ForgeDigger, Reiraku, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Synonym
The Chief(4):DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:32:23 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief

Was reading earlier and was gonna make a post about how the Wilgy voters are dumb because the chances of Chief targeting Wilgy are way higher than Wilgy targeting Chief. But then I got distracted and forgot about this game.

See people have already beat me there.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:35:13 pm
I know I kneejerked the Chief vote first, but only did so before Chief flipped the claim onto Wilgy.

Let me say this: Who the fuck, other than FPSG, visits someone claiming to quit the game? Do you guys really want to say that Chief would do so?

I can understand FPSG falling for it, since Alpha was literally claiming mafia. Wilgy didn't do this, and Chief isn't going to do something so bad.

Okay, but no one has even expressed suspicion of Chief except me. Do you think Wilgy goes for a simple choice or something ballsy like Chief?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:36:47 pm
Now I'm second guessing myself.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 05:38:18 pm
I know I kneejerked the Chief vote first, but only did so before Chief flipped the claim onto Wilgy.

Let me say this: Who the fuck, other than FPSG, visits someone claiming to quit the game? Do you guys really want to say that Chief would do so?

I can understand FPSG falling for it, since Alpha was literally claiming mafia. Wilgy didn't do this, and Chief isn't going to do something so bad.

The problem is, Wilgy "quitting the game" is what saved him. I considered him being mafia right then there just because of it. And it worked.


Was there any world in which Chief didn't counter claim the exact opposite? What other choices are there? And you're surprised by it? Lolwut?

The truth is, you want to give the true traitor another chance to contact you tonight. I just need to figure out which one it is.

I still don't see any world in which Wilgy contacts Chief as the clear mafia choice. That seems farfetched.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:39:34 pm
Lol at anyone who didn't figure out Alpha had a role. Guessing at least one person between Augustus, MP or cobalt on Mafia that made that read.

Why Cobalt?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 05:41:23 pm
The problem is, Wilgy "quitting the game" is what saved him. I considered him being mafia right then there just because of it. And it worked.


Was there any world in which Chief didn't counter claim the exact opposite? What other choices are there? And you're surprised by it? Lolwut?

The truth is, you want to give the true traitor another chance to contact you tonight. I just need to figure out which one it is.

I still don't see any world in which Wilgy contacts Chief as the clear mafia choice. That seems farfetched.

I'm sorry you can't read, but I did explain Chief's alternative. But I guess you don't need to be literate to code lol.

Honestly, though, it's not that. You actually want to lynch the least likely to be traitor, because you don't know who it is yourself. You know Chief plays dirty early even as town, so it's least likely to be him. You want traitor to turn so that gives you an extra night to stall so that it becomes easier to reach party.

Once Wilgy turns up traitor, you better be next on the block.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 05:41:51 pm
Now I'm second guessing myself.

Don't listen to Pimp, he's been "LALALALALA"ing all thread.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:42:10 pm
I think it's much more likely that Wilgy targeted Chief over Chief targeting Wilgy.

Why?

(Kinda feel like you've dropped off after D1, btw, but that might just be a whole roster thing.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 05:42:26 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief

Was reading earlier and was gonna make a post about how the Wilgy voters are dumb because the chances of Chief targeting Wilgy are way higher than Wilgy targeting Chief. But then I got distracted and forgot about this game.

See people have already beat me there.

Yet somehow @Cobalt came to the exact opposite conclusion. Has Cobalt suspected Chief or Wilgy more so far?
I think it's much more likely that Wilgy targeted Chief over Chief targeting Wilgy.

Also sucks that Alpha was the UC. Zzzz.

So by this quote, he personally thinks Chief looks dirtier than Wilgy, thus Wilgy is more likely to contact Chief. And we may have mafia brothers. Gonna go see if Cobalt voted Wilgy or Chief in the past.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 05:45:48 pm
also wilgy was dead missing from the thread until his fuzz vote

pretty opportunistic

Cobalts throwing shade on Wilgy a couple of times, here included, and voted for him. But doesn't think its likely a person he thinks is mafia would be likely to be contacted?

Cobalt was also quick to try and turn the "Willy enforced = willy dirty" into the mix after n1

Pretty sure Cobalt and Chief are in cahoots
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:46:30 pm
@DrWilgy

If you're not Widow, stop being a s*** and actually play because you screw your team over by giving Chief another chance to contact wolves.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:49:32 pm
I really don't know who it is actually, lol.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:50:52 pm
I'll probs just yolo and tunnel Chief.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 05:52:37 pm
okay, Wilgy plays like butt no matter what. We already know that.

If Chief doesn't try his best here and stop trying to be coy (because he has no excuse to be doing that anymore), then he should die.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 12, 2017, 05:56:44 pm
The answer is simple. Who would be more useful as a confirmed civ.

If im useless, lynch me. Wilgy is not trying to play obviously so tonight is his last chance to find mafia and bow out completely.

Mafia will want to kill me at some point so you're doing them a favor by lynching me.

It's up to you guys honestly. If im useless lynch me and be done.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 06:00:04 pm
No Vote(5):ForgeDigger, Reiraku, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Synonym
The Chief(5):Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:02:27 pm
Lol at anyone who didn't figure out Alpha had a role. Guessing at least one person between Augustus, MP or cobalt on Mafia that made that read.

Oz needs to die soon but I'm okay lynching wilgy.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.
I would have killed Alpha night one because I'm salty.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:03:24 pm
Cobalts throwing shade on Wilgy a couple of times, here included, and voted for him. But doesn't think its likely a person he thinks is mafia would be likely to be contacted?

Cobalt was also quick to try and turn the "Willy enforced = willy dirty" into the mix after n1

Pretty sure Cobalt and Chief are in cahoots
lol

the only person i'm in cahoots with here is my damn self thank you very much
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:06:08 pm
Why?

(Kinda feel like you've dropped off after D1, btw, but that might just be a whole roster thing.)
Mmmm.

Idk. Chief is smart. If not a single person scrambled about the fact that Wilgy almost bit it last phase, I wouldn't target him if I were trying to become mafia. I don't think Chief would either.

I think it's more than likely that Wilgy targeted Chief, and when he didn't turn, he pre-emptively claimed Chief was his role because he knew he would be outed by Chief.

It's something I've done before in irl mafia when I knew I got red checked based on the way someone was talking about me - I'd be like, I'm the detective and he's mafia. If you know you're screwed you have to get the jump on them and then the counterclaim looks way more suspicious than the original claim.

And frankly, I'd much rather have a confirmed civ Chief in our pockets than Wilgy because he's done pretty much fuckall.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 06:07:52 pm
Eh.

In a vacuum, I'd lynch Wilgy 100% of the time for playing under the minimum required threshold of town transparency.

But the gamestate suggests that he's actually town here, so lolwatdo.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:08:36 pm
The question is, if you were traitor, who would you have picked last night? Chief or wilgy?

Presenting to Chief would be a hail mary

Presenting to Wilgy after his play takes the Kind of balls the chief actually has

Vote Registered For The Chief

Sorry bro

But if you ARE Wilgy, and everyone thinks you're suspicious, who out of those people do you choose? Someone who's a heavy hitter when mafia. Chief has the capacity to go deep and if I were in Wilgy's position I'd go for someone like him.

Not that I think Chief is mafia because up until now I was most suspicious of Wilgy - but in his position, from who he would think is mafia when everyone is accusing him, I don't think Chief is a hail mary play in the slightest.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:09:11 pm
Eh.

In a vacuum, I'd lynch Wilgy 100% of the time for playing under the minimum required threshold of town transparency.

But the gamestate suggests that he's actually town here, so lolwatdo.
I really don't think so Von.

Even if he is, I'd much rather trust Chief here because if that resolves in our favor it's much better for us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:14:15 pm
Cobalts throwing shade on Wilgy a couple of times, here included, and voted for him. But doesn't think its likely a person he thinks is mafia would be likely to be contacted?

Cobalt was also quick to try and turn the "Willy enforced = willy dirty" into the mix after n1

Pretty sure Cobalt and Chief are in cahoots
Also, @Pimp Willy , if one of Chief or Wilgy are the traitor and one is town because widow was revealed and not converted - how exactly could Chief and I be in cahoots?

If he's traitor - not possible. We can't be scum together because one is 3P and one is town for sure. Lovers - we aren't.

So.... where exactly is that thought coming from? Or are you just trying to discredit me in any way possible without thinking it through logically first?

Thanks for solidifying my scum lean on you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:14:33 pm
^That's a pretty significant post FMPOV, @ everyone else.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:15:21 pm
@vonvorto

Run with me on this Wilgy thing and then we can move on to Pimp Willy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 06:17:11 pm
Ehhhh.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Worst case scenario, I was right and we can just lynch Chief afterwards.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 12, 2017, 06:18:39 pm
@vonvorto

Run with me on this Wilgy thing and then we can move on to Pimp Willy.

Huh.

That was a good catch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:25:30 pm
But like, seriously though!

What kind of agenda is Willy pushing where he feels like he has to tie me and The Chief together when there's logistically no way of doing that in which we're both mafia?

I think it was an oversight on his part but an agenda nevertheless.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 06:25:48 pm
@Augustus @Missing Person

Your thoughts on my Willy post?
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 06:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(6):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(5):ForgeDigger, Reiraku, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(4):Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 06:38:58 pm
@Augustus @Missing Person

Your thoughts on my Willy post?

Why do you think I'm asking for Willy next?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 06:41:44 pm
I also believe if Pimp is scum, then Synonym is town, rereading pending.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 12, 2017, 06:43:31 pm
@Augustus @Missing Person

Your thoughts on my Willy post?

I saw that actually and then decided it was poor word choice. -shrug-
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 06:46:40 pm
Poor wording isn't inherently exonerative.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 06:52:34 pm
I think you're right, I was making that post while half distracted and probably didn't think it through, because there's 0 mafia pair between wilgy and chief.

So mafia gets to sit back and let us deal with this fiasco and try to help the traitor survive. So in this case you'd not be in cahoots with chief, but rather if you're mafia you want to vote the opposite of the towns best bet, aka wilgy.

I don't see how you can go from "wilgy is mafia bet it" to "I'd never pick wilgy as mafia" overnight and expect us to not question your motives
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 12, 2017, 07:02:53 pm
Sorry @Fruit Punch Samurai G, no offense. But there's no way that Chief would fall for this. But Wilgy could easily fall for Chief playing scummy like he always does early.

You sonuvbitch I'll kill you!

I sort of agree with Pimp Willy's reasoning that it was more likely Chief contacting Wilgy b/c Wilgy seemed more scummy. But another possibility is that neither is clean. By the way Wilgy has been playing it would seem to me he's probably grey spy.

I mean he tried to lynch himself which would cause someone else to die right or is that not how that role works? If not then I may be way off.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 12, 2017, 07:10:34 pm
So, Wilgy went from becoming an hero to coming back when he wasn't going to get lynched. Okay.

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 07:12:37 pm
As Cobalt pointed out, its not possible for either of them to be Mafia. If the traitor actually presented to mafia, it wouldn't fail. So whoever it is, one is civ and one is traitor.

Now, the one thing that gives me pause is that Wilgy has been close to dying for like 2 days straight. Its way more likely for him to feel the pressure to present himself to Chief, whereas Chief was sitting pretty safe and in no way had to rush it. Why Wilgy would choose Chief is beyond me though.

And yet, Chief wasn't rushing to post here today... in fact he didn't post until magically he was called out for being the Traitor. Then suddenly he's here. Almost like he was hoping AFK Wilgy didn't show up at all. If he had the info that Wilgy was traitor, why wasn't he here sharing that info?

I can see both sides here. Im not as Adamant that Chief is the traitor, when you think about which one was in a more desperate position. But Chief, if you had just shown up earlier with the results instead of magically waiting until after YOU were fingered... then of course it'd be a much simplier lynch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 07:24:44 pm
Why Cobalt?
He's apparently angry enough at Alpha to leave the site and then that anger disappears by day two after seeing alpha's Play style remain hesitant.

That's enough of a flag for me.
I would have killed Alpha night one because I'm salty.
And we would have lynched you day 2.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 07:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(7):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(4):ForgeDigger, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(4):Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 07:30:11 pm
I also believe if Pimp is scum, then Synonym is town, rereading pending.
I've been coy on Willy, if he's Mafia I'd say godfather.
But if you ARE Wilgy, and everyone thinks you're suspicious, who out of those people do you choose? Someone who's a heavy hitter when mafia. Chief has the capacity to go deep and if I were in Wilgy's position I'd go for someone like him.

Not that I think Chief is mafia because up until now I was most suspicious of Wilgy - but in his position, from who he would think is mafia when everyone is accusing him, I don't think Chief is a hail mary play in the slightest.
I agree. If I needed to make a hail Satan play chief would be one of my first choices to expose to. He's smart, plays his cards close to the chest and if it came down to it I'd trust him to keep quiet about being recruited.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 07:55:30 pm
You sonuvbitch I'll kill you!

I sort of agree with Pimp Willy's reasoning that it was more likely Chief contacting Wilgy b/c Wilgy seemed more scummy. But another possibility is that neither is clean. By the way Wilgy has been playing it would seem to me he's probably grey spy.

I mean he tried to lynch himself which would cause someone else to die right or is that not how that role works? If not then I may be way off.
This is a lesser possibility than the straightforward case, but I don't mind entertaining this. But this only matters if one of them flips this.
I think you're right, I was making that post while half distracted and probably didn't think it through, because there's 0 mafia pair between wilgy and chief.

So mafia gets to sit back and let us deal with this fiasco and try to help the traitor survive. So in this case you'd not be in cahoots with chief, but rather if you're mafia you want to vote the opposite of the towns best bet, aka wilgy.

I don't see how you can go from "wilgy is mafia bet it" to "I'd never pick wilgy as mafia" overnight and expect us to not question your motives
I believed he was mafia. Now it's obvious he isn't but he's been ringing off bells. Now we know the why on him ringing off bells.

He isn't mafia, but he's damn close to it. And I don't think for a second that a person that wittingly refused to use medic saves in a mafia game to avoid enforces role hunting to fall for a wishy washy d2 play from Wilgy.

That wishy washiness was legit flailing from someone scared of dying before he could have a win condition triggered.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:08:40 pm
Essentially:

Anyone suggesting that we leave a wishy-washy player in who hasn't contributed to solving the game, has been near the top of the lynch charts since d1, has a counter-claim against him, and hasn't shown up since, should be prepared to volunteer to host the All-Star game after this one.

(Because you sure as shit aren't playing in it.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:08:55 pm
*mic drop*
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 08:35:14 pm
I think you're right, I was making that post while half distracted and probably didn't think it through, because there's 0 mafia pair between wilgy and chief.

So mafia gets to sit back and let us deal with this fiasco and try to help the traitor survive. So in this case you'd not be in cahoots with chief, but rather if you're mafia you want to vote the opposite of the towns best bet, aka wilgy.

I don't see how you can go from "wilgy is mafia bet it" to "I'd never pick wilgy as mafia" overnight and expect us to not question your motives
For the EXACT SAME REASONS you were just referring to????

Because he's either 3P or town in this scenario so there's no way he's mafia??????????

And I've been suspicious of him all game and suspicion can be equally as qualified in a 3P traitor as in a scum??????

What exactly about my current read of Wilgy does not match up to my earlier read of him?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:36:05 pm
FYI:

There are three players with obvious town only lynches.

One of them is dead. They all have the same votes.

Those are:

Alpha
Synonym
Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 08:36:55 pm
He's apparently angry enough at Alpha to leave the site and then that anger disappears by day two after seeing alpha's Play style remain hesitant.

That's enough of a flag for me.And we would have lynched you day 2.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.
Except I left the site nearly a year ago and so it's quite possible I'm not as outrageously emotionally angry as I was the day it happened?

This holds no water.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 08:37:25 pm
FYI:

There are three players with obvious town only lynches.

One of them is dead. They all have the same votes.

Those are:

Alpha
Synonym
Augustus
Wait, what do you mean by this?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:37:54 pm
Wait, what do you mean by this?

Just public notes on who has been on both town wagons.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:38:10 pm
Something to come back with later.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:42:36 pm
Someone else that saw this:

@Synonym
@Augustus
@Alpha

All 3 of you got the read the TCJ was dirty?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:43:28 pm
One thing I don't get though...

Chief says Wilgy is traitor.

he hasn't voted Wilgy.

por que?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 08:44:54 pm
I'm not saying he's lying, but cmon.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 08:48:04 pm
One thing I don't get though...

Chief says Wilgy is traitor.

he hasn't voted Wilgy.

por que?
Mmmmmmmm.

Ok this gives me pause.

@The Chief ?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 12, 2017, 09:25:24 pm
I would definitely lynch wilgy in this case. He's basically out with his "I'm leaving post" anyway; would rather have Chief if he's civ.

Do we all agree if one comes up civ the other is dead next?

I'm conflicted about my Willy scumread from earlier. On one hand I'm paranoid about a MP/Aug mafia powerhouse because they are hard to read for me. But, if that's the case Willy looks cleaner to me, except in some extreme case. Ugh

Vote Registered For DrWilgy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 12, 2017, 09:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(8):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
The Chief(4):Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy
No Vote(3):The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 09:54:32 pm
I would definitely lynch wilgy in this case. He's basically out with his "I'm leaving post" anyway; would rather have Chief if he's civ.

Do we all agree if one comes up civ the other is dead next?

I'm conflicted about my Willy scumread from earlier. On one hand I'm paranoid about a MP/Aug mafia powerhouse because they are hard to read for me. But, if that's the case Willy looks cleaner to me, except in some extreme case. Ugh

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

I think it's easy to agree on. They're too counter claims pointing fingers at one another. If the one we lynch today is not traitor, we have to lynch the other.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 10:06:34 pm
*Two; didn't you teach english?

No, we need to get it right today. 2 days of lynching non mafia with another chance for traitor to turn is basically ggs at this point. I don't want to be here looking foolish while the traitor laughs their way to contacting mp tonight. We need people making arguments and using logic, not just dismissive sentences and gut votes. Not today. Man up boys.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 10:45:40 pm
I find it ironic the person who can't read my arguments on Wilgy is going grammar nazi on one word.

The problem is, Wilgy "quitting the game" is what saved him. I considered him being mafia right then there just because of it. And it worked.


Was there any world in which Chief didn't counter claim the exact opposite? What other choices are there? And you're surprised by it? Lolwut?

The truth is, you want to give the true traitor another chance to contact you tonight. I just need to figure out which one it is.

I still don't see any world in which Wilgy contacts Chief as the clear mafia choice. That seems farfetched.

DansGame
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 12, 2017, 10:57:02 pm
Yeah, I know where you're going.

That's why we lynch Wilgy tomorrow, watch him flip Traitor, then lynch you tomorrow.

Sadly, we probably only get Chief one cycle after we lynch traitor, but hopefully he has a shot to help us get this game solved a little more.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 12, 2017, 10:57:32 pm
This is fine.

Lynch me today, and vigi kill chief afterwards.

Driving cross cities and don't think I'll be able to post tomorrow.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 12, 2017, 11:03:15 pm
Claiming nurse too PogChamp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 11:06:57 pm
No I'm Spartacus.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 11:07:25 pm
This is fine.

Lynch me today, and vigi kill chief afterwards.

Driving cross cities and don't think I'll be able to post tomorrow.
List of protects so far.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 12, 2017, 11:18:25 pm
List of protects so far.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.
Missed n1, Von n2.

Going to bed now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 11:20:01 pm
I don't believe you, die traitor.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 11:21:35 pm
If wilgy is traitor, this might ruin my perfect civilian lynching streak

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: DrWilgy on February 12, 2017, 11:23:57 pm
I don't believe you, die traitor.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.
Like I said, this is fine and you seem to be in good company.

Me surviving is a problem when a red check isn't believed. Me surviving any further will only inhibit both civs ans vigi from doing vigi things.

Now I'm actually going to sleep. Night.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 11:24:56 pm
Sigh

Can anyone refute Wilgy's claim?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 12, 2017, 11:25:28 pm
Does he win with mafia without contacting them?

He might be drawing a counterclaim.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 12, 2017, 11:36:21 pm
Does he win with mafia without contacting them?

He might be drawing a counterclaim.
Almost certainly. He can't self protect so the only thing claiming could do is buy him one phase.

Lynching a medic is also grounds to pause normally.

Medic, do not counter claim.

Vigi, try to keep avoiding heat.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 13, 2017, 12:21:26 am
Does he win with mafia without contacting them?

I'm fairly sure that he must make contact to win.



Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 13, 2017, 12:26:16 am
If you're medic, you've become the worst medic since Ben Perkins.

Realest of real talks.

But there is no way this pattern holds up.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 13, 2017, 12:29:05 am
Does he win with mafia without contacting them?

He might be drawing a counterclaim.

No, he can't. Traitor must turn to win as mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 13, 2017, 12:29:45 am
If he doesn't turn, he cannot win.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 13, 2017, 12:33:40 am
Almost certainly. He can't self protect so the only thing claiming could do is buy him one phase.

Lynching a medic is also grounds to pause normally.

Medic, do not counter claim.

Vigi, try to keep avoiding heat.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.



I like the counterclaim as a salt maneuver from Wilgy knowing he can't win so fuck the civs for being on him all game.  Try to screw them or whatever.

There was zero point to that claim. If he wanted to bury Chief in votes, he says, "Fuck this, he's the real traitor, here's evidence of his shifty activity, and Chief visited me because blah blah." Try to counter argue the claim.

So basically, he claims medic, and if he gets lynched, then vigi is active, and if he doesn't, he dies, then vigi is still active if he is. But we need to prevent numbers loss more than vigi hits, so yeah...I don't like the claim.

I am, however, going to look back and see if he softed anywhere. I didn't see anything, but worth a look see.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: Missing Person on February 13, 2017, 12:36:20 am
Other than his typical open:

Oh shit

Whaddup?

I'm a doctor

Vote Registered For Missing Person

Nothing. Since this is a post he makes every time he opens, I don't buy the claim still. No softs at all.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 12:39:10 am
I like the counterclaim as a salt maneuver from Wilgy knowing he can't win so fuck the civs for being on him all game.  Try to screw them or whatever.

There was zero point to that claim. If he wanted to bury Chief in votes, he says, "Fuck this, he's the real traitor, here's evidence of his shifty activity, and Chief visited me because blah blah." Try to counter argue the claim.

So basically, he claims medic, and if he gets lynched, then vigi is active, and if he doesn't, he dies, then vigi is still active if he is. But we need to prevent numbers loss more than vigi hits, so yeah...I don't like the claim.

I am, however, going to look back and see if he softed anywhere. I didn't see anything, but worth a look see.
Already looked, and my opinion hasn't changed.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 01:15:36 am
Did Alpha leave a soft for his night one peek?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 01:22:23 am
The Lovers should definitely claim now that Cupid is dead.

As for Pimp being Enforced, I'm gonna call it as leaning towards a Civ Enforce. I'd expect Pimp to very lightly breadcrumb a role as Mafia (lightly enough that he could back out of it at any point), so he could justify the Enforce if needed. I can't find anything like that, so I'm going with Mafia looking for roles. That's likely to be, what happened in the end.

Vote Registered For The Co-Jones

Time to put your money where your mouth is in terms of wallflowers.
@Cobalt first post of D2 thoughts?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 01:33:57 am
@Cobalt first post of D2 thoughts?

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Dislike the fact that you're subliminally trying to use that to push a Pimp Willy clear.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 01:37:11 am
Dislike the fact that you're subliminally trying to use that to push a Pimp Willy clear.
Eh, I dislike that you probably rolled Mafia.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 01:41:35 am
Eh, I dislike that you probably rolled Mafia.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Why do you only imply me to be scum when my opinion differs from yours?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 02:01:36 am
Why do you only imply me to be scum when my opinion differs from yours?
Because this end of phase is changing my reads on some people.

Getting better vibes from MP.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 02:07:44 am
I have a list of eight suspects for mafia that looks something like:
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Now I realise that those are in alphabetical order but that's about as much as I'm willing to share this close to EOD.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 05:40:07 am
@Cobalt - Wilgy was on my list since day 1. Didn't vote him because I voted TGG.

I am still shocked that guys (PW in particular) would think that if I were traitor I would've felt the need to blow the only win condition I would have on day 2. Seeing as there were no previous since I was getting lynched during day 1 or 2. Why would I feel the need to go for it all so soon?

Barring that, how many roles have I ever screwed up!? None?

You clearly must feel that I'm a bad player.

Then you ask why I didn't immediately come out with the info I was visited. As someone who has never roleclaimed ever, I'm surprised you would expect that from me. It's almost like you would expect me to come out with info on who I got a guilty check on if I was UC. I wouldn't.

When I got the message, I confirmed the message and immediately went to read Black Widows role. My intent became to use the info against him. I would've let him live for as long as I could to get a read on who else he may have visited. It was an opportunity to blow the game open.

If he got recruited after exposing himself to me, mafia would have to kill me before I could say anything. Wilgy activity would've spiked greatly and mafia would scavenge for excuses to lynch me. Then I turn up civ and it's gg.

But Wilgy got spooked and decide to try to flip it... and also claim medic. lol

I alost want to take the lynch just to show you how dumb all of the votes on me look.

My Day 1 list again (People who need to die):
Wilgy
TGG
Missing Person
Augustus
...and now Pimp Willy.

Pimp is great to keep around, but the plays he's made thus far are detrimental to our cause. He is a firm believer that people have a short memory. Even if he led the push for my lynch, he'd feel confident that he could wiggle his way out of his own lynch the next day.

Augustus has wanted to put attention on me since day one and he could barely explain why. He voted me instantaneously this phase, and even though he claims to be second guessing himself, his vote hasn't changed.

When I turn up civ today (or die tonight), please note the above. Especially when TGG randomly shows up and votes me as well.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 13, 2017, 07:41:00 am
I don't buy Wilgy as nurse. Very much seems last-ditch to me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 08:15:14 am
@The Chief

Have you still not voted for Wilgy?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 08:42:30 am
@The Chief

Have you still not voted for Wilgy?

I have not.

I'm toying with an idea at the moment. I am not traitor. Wilgy targeted me last night and he will CERTAINLY try targeting someone else if he gets the chance.

What do you guys think about letting Wilgy live to target someone else. The write up will confirm when he finds mafia apparently... if he does not find mafia, he confirms another civ... and me.

If he finds mafia, we can auto lynch him... and get more info for our mafia hunt.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 08:45:21 am
@The Chief  lol, so let me get this straight, your plan was to let Wilgy contact you, not say anything, give him a chance to continue to contact people until he finds mafia, converts himself into a bonus night kill, use it and THEN magically share said info with us? Yet, in the same sentence you try to convince us you're not a bad player? Tsk tsk.

You were silent, and you got caught with your pants down.

Whats hillarious is that Wilgy is doing everything he can to make us not want to vote you, by claiming Nurse. I want to lynch him now just based on that fact.

If I analyze it from different angles, I get different results.

Chief is Traitor Pros:
Ballsy move, in the chief playbook
Wilgy has looked scum for days, and even has been on Chiefs dirty list since day 1 by his own admissions, so he would admittedly pick him if he was traitor
Stayed Silent after supposedly having Wilgy dead to rights, magically shows up to defend himself once accused without being tagged.

Chief is Traitor Cons
No need for Chief to actually pull the trigger on Recruitment, he was not in danger of dying and it was a risky move


Wilgy is Traitor Pros
Was in danger of dying, needed to take his shot to join the Mafia
Claimed Nurse while saying him dying was fine in the same post


Wilgy is Traitor Cons
Chief is a random choice to make as mafia, when MP has been telegraphing it so hard
Fake Giving up in the previous day phase would be a pretty bold move


I can't see a clear choice. Chief is either traitor or incompetent by sitting on the info.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 08:46:27 am
Sigh

Can anyone refute Wilgy's claim?

He's not even subtle about the role hunting lol

Did Alpha leave a soft for his night one peek?

We covered this already, but I imagine Mafia would be less inclined to care to pay attention to clearing people rather than trying to string people up
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 08:50:07 am
@Pimp Willy - How about when I turn up civ you add another lone to your signature saying "My name is now Pimp WILGY and I wish I could make the reads The Chief does."

How about that? Deal?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 09:02:19 am
What reads? The one where you sit on valuable info because somehow magically its going to be worth more AFTER hes made successful contact?

Anybody who doesn't share my sense of urgency with nailing somebody today and is content to just play out longer plans is suspect to me. We are 2 lynches in, and down multiple power roles, and you and mp are like "Nah, its cool bro, we'll continue to let this clearly superior mafia toy with us while we make multi day plans just to nail a third party!!111one"

Get the fuck out of here with that
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:08:30 am
What reads? The one where you sit on valuable info because somehow magically its going to be worth more AFTER hes made successful contact?

Anybody who doesn't share my sense of urgency with nailing somebody today and is content to just play out longer plans is suspect to me. We are 2 lynches in, and down multiple power roles, and you and mp are like "Nah, its cool bro, we'll continue to let this clearly superior mafia toy with us while we make multi day plans just to nail a third party!!111one"

Get the fuck out of here with that

Some people naturally do not panic under pressure. I have always been a calculated player and you know that. I saw (and still see) an opportunity to blow this game open for us.

If Wilgy played it differently, I could take clear advantage of that but he buckled and went for a hail mary.

If you're mafia, you're still in a good position Pimp Wilgy. I'll be gone soon enough. Let's focus on the best play for today.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:12:02 am
So if Wilgy contacts someone else and finds mafia, they will get another kill and one will likely be me... unless medic protects me. If he contacts a civ, we get another confirmed civ who can step forward.

Still thinking this through. Any help poking hole in this would be great.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 09:12:33 am
So if Wilgy contacts someone else and finds mafia, they will get another kill and one will likely be me... unless medic protects me. If he contacts a civ, we get another confirmed civ who can step forward.

Still thinking this through. Any help poking hole in this would be great.
Yeah no we absolutely are not letting Wilgy live and you aren't helping your cause by suggesting we do so.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:16:33 am
Yeah no we absolutely are not letting Wilgy live and you aren't helping your cause by suggesting we do so.

I tend to think outside of the box.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 13, 2017, 09:19:52 am
If we don't lynch a mafia today then Wilgy got ~30% (38 if one of the lovers are mafia) to hit someone that we don't want him to. That goes up to at least 33/42 if anyone DQ's today.

Is 1/3 chance to grant them an extra kill/member worth it in our current state?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 09:20:35 am
I tend to think outside of the box.
Right, well for the sake of our game our thoughts are going to stay firmly inside the box where they fucking belong thanks.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:33:55 am
@Cobalt - Gotcha

If we don't lynch a mafia today then Wilgy got ~30% (38 if one of the lovers are mafia) to hit someone that we don't want him to. That goes up to at least 33/42 if anyone DQ's today.

Is 1/3 chance to grant them an extra kill/member worth it in our current state?

I believe his original chances were roughly the same but he felt the need to go for it. Mafia would probably have to roleclaim for him to get it right imo.

The message you get clearly says Wilgy targeted you.
The writeup clearly confirms when it passes or fails.
Wilgy already roleclaimed that he is traitor.
It hurts mafia for him to try and fail again.
Wilgy could likely care less once he's met his win condition.

The main con is the extra kill, but I liken that to if we had a vigi miss a shot.

Forgive me if this makes you want to lynch me but I just have to go through this for the sake of being me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 13, 2017, 09:54:56 am
Forgive me if this makes you want to lynch me but I just have to go through this for the sake of being me.

Nah I'm more sus of Wilgy so if he flips traitor then that means one of two things, you're either cleared, or you're the grey spy.

Either way we can't afford to was a lynch on you esp if people DQ today with how well the mafia are doing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:58:41 am
Nah I'm more sus of Wilgy so if he flips traitor then that means one of two things, you're either cleared, or you're the grey spy.

Either way we can't afford to was a lynch on you esp if people DQ today with how well the mafia are doing.

Insightful.

How do you figure I am Gray Spy?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 13, 2017, 10:03:44 am
Insightful.

How do you figure I am Gray Spy?

I assume that the grey spy would also show up as a failure in the write-up so I'm keeping it in mind as a possibility.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 10:44:22 am
Welp, now I feel like Wilgy is Widow just cos Chief's plan is so dumb I don't believe he'd propose that in this situation as the traitor.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 10:45:51 am
I assume that the grey spy would also show up as a failure in the write-up so I'm keeping it in mind as a possibility.

Grey spy would also want to delay the game as long as possible. :O

(Unless he still wants to be lynched here.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 10:47:56 am
I honestly wouldn't even mind if the actual doctor claimed here if Wilgy's lying. Game is boring and needs more death.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 10:48:21 am
Welp, now I feel like Wilgy is Widow just cos Chief's plan is so dumb I don't believe he'd propose that in this situation as the traitor.

I don't blame you for not being able to comprehend it Augustus. lol

When people don't understand something, they belittle it without explaining what they see is wrong. Happens with in theoretical physics all the time.

I welcome your explanation at your earliest convenience.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 10:54:02 am
Obviously I don't want to give wolves a chance to nab an extra kill. Things are already not going well because people aren't trying.

Also, you realise Widow can just choose not do anything during the night phase and then we'll be back at where we started the next day?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 11:03:31 am
Obviously I don't want to give wolves a chance to nab an extra kill. Things are already not going well because people aren't trying.

Also, you realise Widow can just choose not do anything during the night phase and then we'll be back at where we started the next day?

I considered that possibility.

The extra kill, could be compared to our vigi shooting and missing. Debatable whethere it's worth it.

Wilgy choosing to do nothing until he feels confident is also possible. His days and mine are both numbered regardless.

Wilgy has already thrown 2 hail marry so him not taking and action only serves to confuse those who do not believe is the traitor flailing to meet his win condition.

If you're on autopilot this game then yes, you née hard evidence in order to execute. I'm here and reading everything. My perspective is different. Seeing as I'm 1 in a handful actually trying, it probably benefits us more to confirm my civ status.

Carry on.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 11:32:03 am
I considered that possibility.

The extra kill, could be compared to our vigi shooting and missing. Debatable whethere it's worth it.

Wilgy choosing to do nothing until he feels confident is also possible. His days and mine are both numbered regardless.

Wilgy has already thrown 2 hail marry so him not taking and action only serves to confuse those who do not believe is the traitor flailing to meet his win condition.

If you're on autopilot this game then yes, you née hard evidence in order to execute. I'm here and reading everything. My perspective is different. Seeing as I'm 1 in a handful actually trying, it probably benefits us more to confirm my civ status.

Carry on.

And by "actually trying" you mean going silent until the guy who supposedly contacted you outed you and you were forced into action, right?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 11:47:06 am
And by "actually trying" you mean going silent until the guy who supposedly contacted you outed you and you were forced into action, right?

Yeah. I typically don't have a voice until day 3/4 or so. People don't want to trust me early game.

Chambers are, if I come out with some unconfirmed info on day 2... Y'all would lynch me like it was the game winning play.

It would be way out of character for me to do something like that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 12:18:59 pm
It's pretty straight forward for this phase. We kill Wilgy and confirm one person as non-Mafia. If Wilgy flips CIV or nurse then we know who dies tomorrow.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 12:35:48 pm
It's pretty straight forward for this phase. We kill Wilgy and confirm one person as non-Mafia. If Wilgy flips CIV or nurse then we know who dies tomorrow.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Sounds good.

Engaging auto-pilot for the next few hours.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 12:46:16 pm
Not allowing any wiggle room for end of day shenanigans.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 01:38:31 pm
Lots of quiet motherfuckers waiting to be told wait to do, it seems
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 01:44:01 pm
Lots of quiet motherfuckers waiting to be told wait to do, it seems

There are leaders and there are followers. Just the way it is.

Teach us how to mafia. What should people do?

I gave an idea but it's day 3 so I haven't been invoked yet.

Maybe they'll listen to you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 13, 2017, 01:56:20 pm
I don't like that Augustus expressed changing his mind about chief and not changing his vote. It kinda feels like he's keeping the vote close in case of some dramatic last second CFD onto Chief.

I would like to prevent or avoid anything too crazy

Vote Registered For DrWilgy

Im still hesitant, but his medic claim seemed more like it was done to create chaos, really doesn't help us, even if he was.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 13, 2017, 01:59:03 pm
Dislike the fact that you're subliminally trying to use that to push a Pimp Willy clear.

He was giving you what you asked for. Nothing subliminal about it.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 13, 2017, 02:00:04 pm
DrWilgy(9):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(3):The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(3):Augustus, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 02:23:04 pm
There are leaders and there are followers. Just the way it is.

Teach us how to mafia. What should people do?

I gave an idea but it's day 3 so I haven't been invoked yet.

Maybe they'll listen to you.

Listen to me? The guy cleared by the UC night 1, whom still people want lynched? lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 02:23:24 pm
DrWilgy(9):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(3):The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(3):Augustus, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy

Man, that's pretty lopsided. I really hope to be wrong here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 02:40:45 pm
Listen to me? The guy cleared by the UC night 1, whom still people want lynched? lol

How about you take this time to explain how you are cleared?

You seem to have been a popular target N1. Enforcer, UC (maybe)...

...what about Pinkie Pie?

No chance of that happening?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 02:42:00 pm
A one for one isn't the worst thing in the world.

Unfortunately, the scumflip doesn't really help info-wise, since the Traitor doesn't know who the mafia are.

fake edit: Someone pulled up Alpha's post and said it looked like he checked PW as innocent N1.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 02:47:55 pm
A one for one isn't the worst thing in the world.

Unfortunately, the scumflip doesn't really help info-wise, since the Traitor doesn't know who the mafia are.

fake edit: Someone pulled up Alpha's post and said it looked like he checked PW as innocent N1.

I saw the post. Pimp Willy has played dirty enough to bait a UC check.

Fingering big name players.
Blatantly causing CFD and tying votes.
Constantly going against the grain.

Who says mafia didn't Enforce, Flip Results on him in the same night? Now that he's confident he got the UC check, he's going balls out with his wild accusations.

Why is he assuming Pinkie Pie could not be at play.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 13, 2017, 02:51:32 pm
Day will end IN 5 HOURS.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 02:57:32 pm
Well, see you all in five hours.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 03:05:36 pm
I'm not claiming 100% chance I'm not mafia, but you're making a big assumption that I am dirty. I know I'm clean. Odds are, I am clean. It would take an insane amount of luck for me to be mafia and get a night 1 clear from Alpha. Possible? Sure. But if you're not even going to consider to the small bit of positive info we have as civs, and immediately suspect me anyway, then we already lost this game anyway
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 03:13:25 pm
I'm not claiming 100% chance I'm not mafia, but you're making a big assumption that I am dirty. I know I'm clean. Odds are, I am clean. It would take an insane amount of luck for me to be mafia and get a night 1 clear from Alpha. Possible? Sure. But if you're not even going to consider to the small bit of positive info we have as civs, and immediately suspect me anyway, then we already lost this game anyway

I'm open minded enough to consider it. But your play so far has rung bells for everyone playing.

Even with the benefit of the doubt given, it would be hard to follow your reads imo.

That unlikely perfect play of mafia getting a clean check from UC though. However unlikely, it does happen. It happened to me in the first South Park game. Just sayin.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 03:17:30 pm
I saw the post. Pimp Willy has played dirty enough to bait a UC check.

Fingering big name players.
Blatantly causing CFD and tying votes.
Constantly going against the grain.

Who says mafia didn't Enforce, Flip Results on him in the same night? Now that he's confident he got the UC check, he's going balls out with his wild accusations.

Why is he assuming Pinkie Pie could not be at play.
Godfather reads clear as well.

Still, if we eliminate other more likely members of the Mafia first we can always kill him last.

No point killing a semi-cleared civilian when there are still tons of question marks.

Same-same that chief is either CIV or grey after this lynch and can be trusted or wilgy flips nurse and Vigi murks chief tonight.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 13, 2017, 03:19:44 pm


It's pretty straight forward for this phase. We kill Wilgy and confirm one person as non-Mafia. If Wilgy flips CIV or nurse then we know who dies tomorrow.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.
Yeah I don't see how it's any more complex than that

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 03:22:06 pm
Im only ringing bells for everyone because I'm rattling cages. MP couldn't be more dirty if he tried, he's probably amazed that the traitor didn't try to contact him because I believe that was his plan. Cobalts actions today caught my attention. But first, we gotta figure out the present mess.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 03:27:20 pm
Yeah I don't see how it's any more complex than that



The reason I see it as more complex, is that I can't believe anybody would sit on a dirty read and not do anything with it. Chief played it terrible. Everything leading up to the traitors action, I believe it'd be Wilgy who made the reveal. Everything since (well, up until Wilgy attempted to claim Nurse), well it points to Chief as the traitor. And, this is a super critical lynch.


Also, just remember on top of my UC clear, I also was enforced the same night. Was the plan to Forge me and enforce me all on Night 1 and hope the UC investigated me? Thats a lot of ifs. The best chance was if I was godfather, sure, but again unlikely.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 03:34:38 pm
Not much more to say until deadline. I'm actually fine with a Wilgy lynch after his Nurse claim, but I'm gonna stay on my read and take the consequences like a man, right or wrong
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 03:36:51 pm
Also TGG is gonna DQ, but that's probably for the best because its likely he's our missing enforcer

@Bious I didn't see the Black Widow reveal in the priority list, just the kill. If vigi kills Black Widow the same night as they reveal to mafia and turn, what is the end result?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 05:53:56 pm
I don't like that Augustus expressed changing his mind about chief and not changing his vote. It kinda feels like he's keeping the vote close in case of some dramatic last second CFD onto Chief.

It's not gonna make a difference, bro. I am on Wilgy in spirit. I'm just staying on Chief to annoy him at this point.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 06:10:25 pm
It's not gonna make a difference, bro. I am on Wilgy in spirit. I'm just staying on Chief to annoy him at this point.
I see.

Vote Registered For Augustus
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 13, 2017, 06:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(9):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
The Chief(3):Augustus, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(1):The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 06:34:07 pm
sigh is day over yet
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 13, 2017, 06:55:00 pm
Day ends IN AN HOUR. I'm hosting a DnD session, so writeup may be a biiiiiiiiiiit delayed depending on what shit my players get in.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 13, 2017, 07:22:51 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 13, 2017, 07:30:04 pm
DrWilgy(9):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
The Chief(4):Augustus, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Augustus(1):The Chief
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 13, 2017, 07:38:38 pm
I had a big post and then tapatalk ate it :\

to summarize it: what do we do if wilgy turns out civ? we lynch chief, and then what? the next phase is mislynch and lose.

If he turns out traitor, who do we lynch? MP?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 07:50:31 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief

Convenient, glad to see mafia got ahold of you in time
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 13, 2017, 07:56:58 pm
Next JokeBot ends the phase.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 08:04:27 pm
I had a big post and then tapatalk ate it :\

to summarize it: what do we do if wilgy turns out civ? we lynch chief, and then what? the next phase is mislynch and lose.

If he turns out traitor, who do we lynch? MP?
if Wilgy is civ, he is telling the truth about being nurse in which case we vig Chief and lynch mafia next phase.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 08:04:45 pm
Shouldn't VoteBot have posted 5 minutes ago to end the phase?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 08:05:03 pm
@Bious
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 08:07:09 pm
Votebot doesnt post unless there was a vote  change since his last post
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 13, 2017, 08:07:30 pm
JokeBot apparently hates being called JokeBot. Everyone's a critic.

Day 3
Revealing


"Yeah, I'm a traitor. Whatcha gonna do? Shoot me?"

*BANG*

"Well that takes of that. Next time you try to buy a man off make sure they ain't me sucka."

"... And that's what happened to Wilgy."

"Well so far this seems to be the same story, just with small differences."

"Hey, I'm just telling the tale. Now that night..."

Dr Wilgy got shot! He was Black Widow!

IT IS NOW NIGHT. Night ends at 11:00 AM EST February 14th.

@ZOOLANDER blah blah vote blah blah DQ.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 08:08:09 pm
PogChamp

Never been happier to be wrong. Chief you're dumb for sitting on that info and letting him flip it on you.

At least we have something going for us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 13, 2017, 08:08:16 pm
Players
It is night
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 13, 2017, 08:10:06 pm
Oh thank fuck.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 08:10:10 pm
What's that? Cobalt was mega right?

Eat my left nut.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 13, 2017, 08:11:05 pm
What's that? Cobalt was mega right?

Eat my left nut.

It's not valentines day yet
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 08:12:38 pm
Vote Registered For The Chief

Ew.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 08:16:07 pm
I was kinda right in that the gamestate suggested Wilgy wasn't mafia, if we take "mafia" to mean "having a groupchat with the rest of your team."

But oh well, a scum lynch is a scum lynch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 13, 2017, 08:41:35 pm
lol Wilgy. Play worse.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 08:43:02 pm
I was kinda right in that the gamestate suggested Wilgy wasn't mafia, if we take "mafia" to mean "having a groupchat with the rest of your team."

But oh well, a scum lynch is a scum lynch.
You look more and more like scum every day.

Sent from my Google Pixel using Tapatalk.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 09:32:53 pm
I'll be here whenever you grow a pair and try to mislynch me.

The inconsistency of scumreading someone but putting literally no effort into convincing people that you're right is kind of glaring.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 13, 2017, 09:47:07 pm
You're all welcome that I played dirty enough to get the traitor to target me.

LOL at my day 1 list being comprised of everyone who voted to lynch me as confirmed civ on day 3 (except MP). He could care less about the results of this lynch apparently.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 10:12:15 pm
I have a weird feeling that I'm not making it past this night phase.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 13, 2017, 10:13:10 pm
Don't worry.

I'll protect you. ;)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 13, 2017, 10:16:34 pm
Don't worry.

I'll protect you. ;)
Yasss, protect me daddy.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 10:38:23 pm
Last will and testament:

Probable Mafia:
Augustus
Cobalt
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Likely:
Blindknagg
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G

Possible:
Pimp Willy - Civ/Godfather/Forged N1
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 13, 2017, 10:46:49 pm
I'm confused was oz dq'd or not
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 13, 2017, 10:48:53 pm
Why is everyone acting like they're gonna die lol

If I say "man mafia must be offing me next" does that auto-clear me, or?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Synonym on February 13, 2017, 11:04:45 pm
I'm confused was oz dq'd or not

No, he missed the vote D1 and D3 but not two consecutive phases.

Why is everyone acting like they're gonna die lol

If I say "man mafia must be offing me next" does that auto-clear me, or?

Just putting my thoughts down incase I eat it this phase. If I get killed and confirmed civilian then that list is my guarantee of mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 12:51:14 am
Not sure if I should be happy that TGG didn't quit the game because of me or susp that he only showed up last minute.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 06:58:08 am
Thought we had changed the rules to missing 2 phases at all. Write up was ambiguous on what happened and when I skimmed the rules I couldn't find anything

Don't think there's a case where tgg doesn't look strange for showing up so late and voting on the wrong wagon with no reasoning
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 08:05:21 am
I'm at a doctors appointment and my phone is about to die.

Synonym was killed, he was a Civ.
Forge digger was enforced.

Will do an actual update later.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 08:52:06 am
Vote Registered For TGG

Oh wait, I dont think the players list is updated yet

RIP Syn. Not sure why the doctor didn't see that one coming
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 08:59:38 am
Players
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
Reiraku
The Chief
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 09:00:04 am
No Vote(13):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, The Chief, vonvorto, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 09:04:55 am
Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 14, 2017, 09:12:36 am
Vote Registered For TGG

Oh wait, I dont think the players list is updated yet

RIP Syn. Not sure why the doctor didn't see that one coming

Probably because the Doctor protected the only townfirm?

Vote Registered For Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 09:14:55 am
Well, I know people still won't call me lock clear on the Wilgy votes, but I'd say Reiraku looks good.

vonvorto looks bad. Maybe that's the point. Syn wasn't a strong clear across the board.

We know that Chief is lock clear. And with Fuzz not being alive and him being town, the biggest Yomi mafia player tends to be PW.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 09:18:00 am
Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX

... or maybe Zoo if he shows up just to not get DQ'd too?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 09:19:14 am
Oh yeah Cobalt looks good too.

But considering the Syn death, there's one person that looks dirty with it, and it's vonvorto for townvoting him twice.  And usually that's to try to throw dirt on someone.

There's one person other than Pimp who would try to throw dirt on someone to get them lynched off, because he's tried it before:

Cyntalan
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 09:20:13 am
Given @The Chief is confirmed town now, I want to hear his case on Augustus.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 09:30:04 am
No Vote(10):Augustus, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Pimp Willy(1):Missing Person
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 09:32:07 am
Here's the thing, if PW got enforced N1, why isn't he dead? And why didn't he role claim?

@ForgeDigger, if you got enforced, I think it's time to announce your role.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 09:48:23 am
Here's the thing, if PW got enforced N1, why isn't he dead? And why didn't he role claim?

@ForgeDigger, if you got enforced, I think it's time to announce your role.

Because I don't have a role? I was "enforced" but with no night power, theres nothing to claim. Enforce must be announced regardless of if the person actually had a night power, which means N2 there was no enforce because A) Mafia was AFK or B) They didn't use it to make us THINK they're AFK


Vote Registered For TGG

MP is pretty much top of my list, but TGG is a higher priority
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 09:49:23 am
Last will and testament:

Probable Mafia:
Augustus
Cobalt
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Likely:
Blindknagg
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G

Possible:
Pimp Willy - Civ/Godfather/Forged N1

I'm willing to put my MP beef aside and give Synonym the benefit of the doubt as well
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 09:56:55 am
Probably because the Doctor protected the only townfirm?

Vote Registered For Blindknagg

That makes sense too, yeah. Synonym is a big target if he's actually civ, and the longer he lives the more we have to question him being alive. But Chief is the most safe choice.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 10:00:04 am
No Vote(9):Augustus, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Pimp Willy(1):Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 10:10:41 am
Here's the thing, if PW got enforced N1, why isn't he dead? And why didn't he role claim?

@ForgeDigger, if you got enforced, I think it's time to announce your role.
Am roleless civ
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 10:10:58 am
@Bious do enforces show up if someone is roleless?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 10:11:49 am
Because I don't have a role? I was "enforced" but with no night power, theres nothing to claim. Enforce must be announced regardless of if the person actually had a night power, which means N2 there was no enforce because A) Mafia was AFK or B) They didn't use it to make us THINK they're AFK


Vote Registered For TGG

MP is pretty much top of my list, but TGG is a higher priority

Then you are clearly the Wimp Lo of mafia games, regardless of alignment.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 10:13:22 am
Didn't think enforce would show on nothing actually being enforced which is weird
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 10:14:02 am
@Bious do enforces show up if someone is roleless?

Enforces are written no matter who gets enforced.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 10:23:55 am
I figured that out when I got enforced, but I guess it wasn't clear to everyone else.

@Missing Person so in your thoughts, I was a mafia who gave up my night action and was enforced, just to look clear? Seriously? lol I mean I can understand the thought process if you thought the enforce always showed, but to think you thought it had to actually block an action AND I was mafia, top kek. That doesn't really gel in my mind.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 10:24:34 am
And that means there was no enforce night 2, not just that it hit a roleless, which again points to an AFKish mafia enforcer, aka TGG
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 10:31:21 am
Rei and Cynt have been quiet too
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 10:59:05 am
Last will and testament:

Probable Mafia:
Augustus
Cobalt
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Likely:
Blindknagg
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G

Possible:
Pimp Willy - Civ/Godfather/Forged N1

Wtf is the difference between probably and likely?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:01:32 am
Think there's at least one wolf in MP and Cobalt.  :-X
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:02:23 am
@ForgeDigger, if you got enforced, I think it's time to announce your role.

wot are you doing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:04:20 am
TGG should probably always die today for being a slanking woofer (I hope anyway).

Again, it's known knowledge he doesn't play the game when wolfing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 11:05:46 am
Wtf is the difference between probably and likely?

I think its the "These are mafia. If Im wrong, the rest are in here." Though if it got that deep, the game would likely be over anyway lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:16:06 am
I'm actually really upset Chief isn't a wolf, lol.

Still potentially the Grey Spy which could explain his hesitance in outing Wilgy. As in like... Chief says nothing so Wilgy realises he is Grey Spy and they just leave each other alone - but Wilgy kinda put a damper on that right away by trying to frame Chief.

Not that this is important right now. Just sharing my thoughts and it's worth considering later on.

Or Chief dies soon and it doesn't matter!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:17:38 am
Was starting to think Forge was dirty too but that enforce on her makes me wanna return to the original read I had. Meh.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:18:29 am
TGG/Cobalt or MP/BK and... someone else?

Lol if it's oz.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 11:19:51 am
I forgot Cyntalan was playing the game. Not that I can be blamed for that one.

That's probably the someone else.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 12:12:41 pm
@Missing Person - I don't think you're willing to lynch Augustus so I'm prob not going to go through all of the inconsistencies I have already gone through regarding him.

Can we lynch you though?
- You've asked roles to come out and claim.
- You've been part of multiple CFD"s.
- For some reason, Cyntalan, a wallflower, seems to be following your lead.
- I can't seem to get you to respond to a single post I've made. I've been trying to open a line of communication with you and we haven't chatted one this entire game.

Something just feels off to me so, it would help me very much to get a read on your alignment.

Typically, people who are hard to lynch are mafia. Nothing you've done so far screams civ.

Place holder:
Vote Registered For Missing Person

You (and others) are gonna have to convince me otherwise.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 12:30:03 pm
No Vote(8):Augustus, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Pimp Willy(1):Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:09:06 pm
@Missing Person - I don't think you're willing to lynch Augustus so I'm prob not going to go through all of the inconsistencies I have already gone through regarding him.

Can we lynch you though?
- You've asked roles to come out and claim.
- You've been part of multiple CFD"s.
- For some reason, Cyntalan, a wallflower, seems to be following your lead.
- I can't seem to get you to respond to a single post I've made. I've been trying to open a line of communication with you and we haven't chatted one this entire game.

Something just feels off to me so, it would help me very much to get a read on your alignment.

Typically, people who are hard to lynch are mafia. Nothing you've done so far screams civ.

Place holder:
Vote Registered For Missing Person

You (and others) are gonna have to convince me otherwise.

You could give it a shot, but if you haven't figured me out yet, especially since I had my targets squared on Wilgy from day fucking 1 and didn't let up, then I don't know how the hell you can conclude that I'm scum.

There's no way I've been that clandestine in my actions.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:12:28 pm
You ought to go over Augustus as well. He's been on 3 of 3 confirmed town bandwagons, with the bandwagon he refused to get on being traitor. He's a good reader, so I can't think for a second that he didn't fucking know what Wilgy was hiding. Given that Wilgy played so wishy-washy, there's no way he bought him as town. He knew he wasn't mafia. Either he was grey spy or black widow then.

So yeah. I really don't like Augustus at this point.

Quite frankly I think those LALALALALA timings on his vote EOD1 was a legit LALALALALA to try to get traitor to contact him.

Vote Registered For Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:17:03 pm
You could give it a shot, but if you haven't figured me out yet, especially since I had my targets squared on Wilgy from day fucking 1 and didn't let up, then I don't know how the hell you can conclude that I'm scum.

There's no way I've been that clandestine in my actions.

1 vote can't lynch you but you bring up another example of failing to be civy.

You say you were dead set on Wilgy. Confident that your read on him should clear you, but Wilgy comes out with random info and you were one of the first to immediately trust him.

After I respond to Wilgy you switch votes.

Why so whimsical!?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:18:27 pm
You ought to go over Augustus as well. He's been on 3 of 3 confirmed town bandwagons, with the bandwagon he refused to get on being traitor. He's a good reader, so I can't think for a second that he didn't fucking know what Wilgy was hiding. Given that Wilgy played so wishy-washy, there's no way he bought him as town. He knew he wasn't mafia. Either he was grey spy or black widow then.

So yeah. I really don't like Augustus at this point.

Quite frankly I think those LALALALALA timings on his vote EOD1 was a legit LALALALALA to try to get traitor to contact him.

Vote Registered For Augustus

I like an Augustus lynch as well.

For me, its either you or him.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:19:12 pm
Right now my suspects are:

Pimp Willy (fuck you, I don't care, I'm riding this yomi one)
Cyntalan
Augustus
TGG
And I guess I'll back pocket vonvorto due to parroting me early/the possibility that he played out the Synonym NK as a way to try to scrub himself clean.

I suppose Reiraku/Cobalt needs to be suspected due to a complete parroting of me the whole game on votes, but if one of them is mafia, I can't see the other one being mafia. I know I could get suspected for being on the same train with them, but there's no way we're all mafia together. That would be some gutsy shit to line it up like that.

I don't think Cobalt could be, I would lean Reiraku over him, but I don't know if he could pull it off over the course the game, so maybe 50/50 overall, if I had to give a slight edge, maybe 55/45 Reiraku.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:22:26 pm
1 vote can't lynch you but you bring up another example of failing to be civy.

You say you were dead set on Wilgy. Confident that your read on him should clear you, but Wilgy comes out with random info and you were one of the first to immediately trust him.

After I respond to Wilgy you switch votes.

Why so whimsical!?

The reason I jumped on it was because there was no counter at that point. You came up with the counter, I trusted you far more, and actually saw through your early play and knew you were either A) roled or B) town and just trying to stay alive long enough to solve the game. I honestly buy it as B solely, and doing so gave you the tertiary benefit of getting Wilgy to contact you.

I essentially trusted my read on you far more than Wilgy's claim. So when you countered his claim, it held a lot more weight in my mind, and the more I tunneled on Wilgy, the less sense his claim made.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:27:20 pm
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@Reiraku

You guys have an opinion here?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:28:03 pm
So my switch to Wilgy after you countered wasn't whimsical. It was legitimately me seeing your claim and knowing what you would've likely done if you were traitor and made a mistake. You would've made the mixup more heavy on us in order to assure more civilian casualty. Plus already having read you as town, it was much more likely that I'd believe your claim over Wilgy's. I know I did kneejerk on his claim, but given that it was the only claim at that point, and voting is in flux, it was possible to jump off if a believable counter came across, which happened.

Plus it's also severely telling who jumped on and stayed on after: 1) You countered, 2) I jumped ship, 3) There were more telling reasons why the Wilgy claim made no sense.  Which is why I still don't like PW, and TGG has fallen to scum read on my list, and after seeing Augustus's voting records and general tone, I really don't like him.

I still feel like Cyntalan and PW will need to get sorted out. But given how adamant PW was on staying on you, I opened today with him because I wanted him sorted out first.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:28:54 pm
Because PW's sticking to you yesterday was a legit "Hee-haw I'm a stubborn mule" move.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:29:33 pm
At this point PW is either playing horribly as mafia that I'm tunneling on him so bad or terrible as town that I'm tunneling on him so bad.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:29:39 pm
@Missing Person

There was no chance for a counter. BK said he would wait for more info before voting. You just voted via Wilgy's words even though you were sure he was dirty.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 01:30:03 pm
No Vote(8):Augustus, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:30:49 pm
So @The Chief, I'd like to hear your side of the Augustus case if it diverges from mine.

You can wait until FPSG and Reiraku chime in if you want.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:38:39 pm
So @The Chief, I'd like to hear your side of the Augustus case if it diverges from mine.

You can wait until FPSG and Reiraku chime in if you want.

If I look at Augustus as a bad player, then his early game posts can be ignored. If I give him credit for having some skill, I get a lot of wtf reactions to everything hes said this game.

The most recent wtf is his lack of pushing anyone. He claims he's bored but he's actively dending specific players.

He failed his read on me and now noone knows who he was gone. That's a problem.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:41:05 pm
@Missing Person

There was no chance for a counter. BK said he would wait for more info before voting. You just voted via Wilgy's words even though you were sure he was dirty.

There was still the scant chance that God forbid, I was wrong about Wilgy and he was telling the truth, and suddenly the dirty actions were a Hail Satan. But I would've been able to gauge that by your reaction in that situation. You reacted the way I saw town Chief reacting. That changed my mind.

At this point, I think the better thing to look at is not that I voted Wilgy's claim first, but that I saw the counter claim and not only changed my vote, but ISO'd Wilgy to show why my vote was correct to try to sway people onto it.

I would not have led the charge on Wilgy like that if I thought he was the traitor so easily. I could've allowed the mislynch to happen to give him a night to turn to delay you guys. The problem with that is my head could've been on the block after being so gung ho on him day 1 and 2 then believing him suddenly on day 3. He would've likely contacted me, then we get lynched the next two days. That would've been worse than him getting lynched. But I could've also just quietly jumped on board again.

Instead I was boisterous in the argument that he was Traitor. When I jumped on board, I had no need to do that. I could've let it go down to a flip, let other people try to figure it out, and possibly gotten you mislynched on the flip while still looking good for being on the Wilgy bandwagon. I didn't do any of that. At that point, if I'm scum, you're town, and Wilgy's traitor, by being a pacifist in that lynch and letting it possibly go to a flip, I look fine either way. You get lynched, I look fine because I'm on the Wilgy wagon. Wilgy gets lynched, I look fine because I'm on the Wilgy wagon.

As such, being boisterous in getting him lynched doesn't benefit me much as scum. Nor does getting you lynched myself and giving him a day to stall. Middle of the ground would be the better/safer choice of action as mafia, and I chose not to do that.

Matter of fact, being boisterous paints an even larger target on my back given I did the same thing to jasonC as traitor in the Disney game, and there's plenty of people in this game who remember that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 1 (Meet and Greet)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 01:41:47 pm
Gonna assume you were here too MP.

Townreading Augustus.

Guess I'll be right on that again.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:43:03 pm
Gonna assume you were here too MP.


Day 1 town reads. At that point he looked consistent with what I usually see out of him. Take a look and see if I've townread him since Day 2. I think the last time I even called him a town read was N1, but would even need to check that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:44:55 pm
I actually chalked up his vote on Fuzz without changing to be like AllStars where he did that to troll.

I believe I was wrong about that and his last two phases have me believing he is not trying to solve the game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:45:32 pm
You ought to go over Augustus as well. He's been on 3 of 3 confirmed town bandwagons

You realise that every competing wagon we've had so far has contained no wolves, right? So how is that an argument at all? You haven't been on any confirmed wolves either considering Wilgy doesn't count.

with the bandwagon he refused to get on being traitor. Vote Registered For Augustus

Uh, I posted that I thought Wilgy was Widow over Chief near the end. Me changing my vote did not matter since he had way more than enough votes. I mean, I can easily avoid stupid LHF accusations like this by voting along with everyone else, but I particularly don't care to.

MP, "you're not reading my posts."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:47:33 pm
Also, I expect Wilgy to not play his role stupid and go for something easier than "lol am I playing dirty or not?" Chief.

I got the correct answer in the end anyway so smd.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:49:29 pm
You realise that every competing wagon we've had so far has contained no wolves, right? So how is that an argument at all? You haven't been on any confirmed wolves either considering Wilgy doesn't count.

Uh, I posted that I thought Wilgy was Widow over Chief near the end. Me changing my vote did not matter since he had way more than enough votes. I mean, I can easily avoid stupid LHF accusations like this by voting along with everyone else, but I particularly don't care to.

MP, "you're not reading my posts."

Except that not voting with everyone else when you damn well believe that he was traitor, you do know anything could've happened right? Another CFD could've happend and Chief could've been out on his ass.

But no, you're safe because you stuck on Chief when you believed Wilgy was widow? I mean, doing so was bad. You could've been like "Wilgy is likely widow but..." and voted anyone else and looked less shady than staying on Chief when if you REALLY REALLY believed Wilgy was widow then that DEDUCES that Chief is town.

So you willingly stayed on a town vote because you could've be arsed to vote for the person who proved he was town, but you're totally ok?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:50:54 pm
Except that not voting with everyone else when you damn well believe that he was traitor, you do know anything could've happened right? Another CFD could've happend and Chief could've been out on his ass.

From who? Wolves and thus exposing themselves?

lmao
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:51:43 pm
Fact: There is nothing annoying about being on an obvious town if you think the latter wagon is a traitor. It only serves as potential sabotage.

Fiction: Augustus is town.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:52:27 pm
From who? Wolves and thus exposing themselves?

lmao

Vote Registered For The Chief

Any questions?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:53:16 pm
Not voting someone I'm wolfing reading when they're already dying is something I've done a few times before.

It's literally not worth discussing. You can make other fair points against me which I'm okay with (and you have). This one is just dumb and I need to point it out.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:54:15 pm
Oh man.

That 9-4 wagon so close.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:56:01 pm
I mean, TGG probably still a wolf tho.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:56:47 pm
There was a traitor claiming a visit by a traitor also claiming a PR. People can blink on that. Especially given how steady the wagon was at that point. They could've deduced scum was content with that vote and thus could be another mislynch. They could've panicked and jumped back onto Chief. Whom by inference, you call town if you claim you believed Wilgy traitor.

You have been on three townvotes, and then want to crucify me for not being on them as well, actually having caught someone playing dirty while you haven't been solving the game in the least?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGpJOfWNqtk
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 01:57:57 pm
Imma lunch you if keep pushing this argument, btw. You're nitpicking over something I could have easily avoided as a wolf. Argue something else, bitch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 01:58:36 pm
And two votes off of Wilgy on to Chief make it 7-6 Wilgy. So it actually is pretty close, because if only 2 people blink, then the propensity for a tie vote becomes very huge, or even a pure mislynch.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:02:54 pm
Wilgy was already established to be the lynch. My vote did not matter.

MP, please stop arguing this. Like, I don't even care if you're wolf reading me aside from that. I just want to make it clear that leaving my vote on Chief was not wolfy.

Don't really even think you've been wolfy yourself but if you start tunneling with a dumb argument, it's gonna make it harder on me to keep the read I have on you.

Like, right now, I'd put Cobalt as the wolf over you from the guesses I proposed earlier.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:05:55 pm
I say Cobalt because he had a decent D1 but kinda dropped off after that. Him being right on Wilgy is kinda moot because if he's a wolf you don't know if he decided to just let go of that extra kill to make himself look better, or if he in actuality thought Chief was Widow and was intentionally trying to lynch the opposite person.

I mean, what looks great from him aside from the Wilgy stuff?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 02:06:58 pm
Fine, my vote still stands, Wilgy notwithstanding.

I don't feel like you're trying to solve the game, and that's problematic from someone I always view as top town when he is town.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:08:39 pm
Cobalt's wolf game consists of him nitpicking and making easy pushes. But so does his villager game, lol. So this game, where he really hasn't done either of those, kinda throws me off. I kinda attributed it to him potentially being a villager at the start of the game, but not so sure now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 02:08:51 pm
I say Cobalt because he had a decent D1 but kinda dropped off after that. Him being right on Wilgy is kinda moot because if he's a wolf you don't know if he decided to just let go of that extra kill to make himself look better, or if he in actuality thought Chief was Widow and was intentionally trying to lynch the opposite person.

I mean, what looks great from him aside from the Wilgy stuff?

I do see your point on Cobalt, and that is why I have him as a scum lean alongside Reiraku. I think there could be a scum between them, and if there is one, I doubt you're scum just because of your proclivity to follow Cobalt down.

I am about to head with my girlfriend for valentine's day. Is there any chance of an ISO while I'm gone?

If not, I will do it when I get back.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Missing Person on February 14, 2017, 02:09:14 pm
Cobalt's wolf game consists of him nitpicking and making easy pushes. But so does his villager game, lol. So this game, where he really hasn't done either of those, kinda throws me off. I kinda attributed it to him potentially being a villager at the start of the game, but not so sure now.

What do you think a grey spy Cobalt would do?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:11:24 pm
Fine, my vote still stands, Wilgy notwithstanding.

I don't feel like you're trying to solve the game, and that's problematic from someone I always view as top town when he is town.

Have gotten used to higher activity games outside this site. So when I come to this... I become disinterested.

I really only signed up because FPSG gave me a nudge.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:15:12 pm
I have no idea what Willy's thoughts on Cyntalan are. He has legitimately not mentioned him at all.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:17:10 pm
Or Rei.. Hrm.

Edit: He's actually been pretty selective with his mentions. Not sure wot that means.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:18:26 pm
Willy, would you care at all if Cyntalan was lynched?

(inb4 I'm trying to save TGG).
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 02:22:39 pm
Think there's at least one wolf in MP and Cobalt.  :-X
hi @Augustus I'm not a wolf k thanks

are you?

I'm thinking Syn was killed because he was wrong and they want to push his scum reads.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 02:24:17 pm
I do see your point on Cobalt, and that is why I have him as a scum lean alongside Reiraku. I think there could be a scum between them, and if there is one, I doubt you're scum just because of your proclivity to follow Cobalt down.

I am about to head with my girlfriend for valentine's day. Is there any chance of an ISO while I'm gone?

If not, I will do it when I get back.

bitch where?

Oh yeah Cobalt looks good too.

@Augustus if there IS a wolf between me and MP, it sure as shit ain't me. I have whiplash from that convenient ass flip.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:24:46 pm
:eli:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 02:25:32 pm
And by the way I don't think Alpha's first post of day two crumbed a Willy clear, and even if it did, I want him dead for the bullshit way he tried to tie me to Chief last phase. Who wound up being town. Lol, we're def in cahoots, right?

Vote Registered For Pimp Willy
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
No Vote(7):Augustus, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
Pimp Willy(1):Cobalt
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:31:09 pm
I'm thinking Syn was killed because he was wrong and they want to push his scum reads.

Do you have any reason for thinking that aside from you being on that list? Or are you just guessing?

I mean, his list was really long, lols. I dunno how we were supposed to get anything out of that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 02:31:21 pm
why won't it let me ISO without searching for a specific word?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:31:57 pm
Gonna be gone for a while soon.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 02:33:09 pm
Last will and testament:

Probable Mafia:
Augustus
Cobalt
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Likely:
Blindknagg
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G

Possible:
Pimp Willy - Civ/Godfather/Forged N1
@Augustus

What I'm concerned with is the fact that two of my top townreads are two of his top scumreads.

I don't think I'm that wrong, so I don't think he was killed because he's right. Although with TGG and OZ who knows, and the Likely list is something to look at, but as far as the top half of that first list is concerned I'm pretty sure it's wrong.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Augustus on February 14, 2017, 02:35:54 pm
oz should have been dq'd already. FU, Bious.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 14, 2017, 02:55:09 pm
@Fruit Punch Samurai G
@Reiraku

You guys have an opinion here?

I do and it's a very simple one. There has to be a mafia between Cobalt, Augustus, and MP. It makes the most logical sense in my mind. The scum team has done such a good job at hunting roles that there has to be a top tier player on the team.

It seems highly unlikely that a team of all wallflowers who would not waste their time looking through a thread peg those roles.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 14, 2017, 02:56:48 pm
I also feel TGG is scum as well, his late last minute vote did not look good for him at all. Also the fact that he was absent the night the enforce was missed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 1 (I'M STILL IN A DREAM)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 14, 2017, 03:02:29 pm
I said I skimmed, and am still skimming. Yea I think syn is town and I can totally see the possibility of MP and Aug being mafia bros.

Boom! Dead.

Last will and testament:

Probable Mafia:
Augustus
Cobalt
vonvorto
XthAtGAm3RGuYX
ZOOLANDER

Likely:
Blindknagg
ForgeDigger
Fruit Punch Samurai G

Possible:
Pimp Willy - Civ/Godfather/Forged N1

Boom! Dead. Common thread is they both have Augustus and they both mention top tier player. Idk seems like we have an Occam razor situtaion.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 14, 2017, 03:28:14 pm
Not too sure on too many players right now. Willy still seems a bit suspicious to me, and i don't think i can really clear any wallflowers.

I need to see more to decide anything. I'm just glad my one pick seemed to at least pan out a bit.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 14, 2017, 03:30:40 pm
You guys still don't know how to read me. Perks of being social pariah I guess. Granted I haven't given you guys much to work with this time.

I didn't really even want to play this game. I'm completely retired from mafia. I signed up to be nice since you guys were scrambling to even put a 20 man game together. Then you guys pretty much immediately reminded me why I don't play anymore. Lynch me if you want. You'll still be batting negative.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 14, 2017, 03:43:35 pm
You guys still don't know how to read me. Perks of being social pariah I guess. Granted I haven't given you guys much to work with this time.

I didn't really even want to play this game. I'm completely retired from mafia. I signed up to be nice since you guys were scrambling to even put a 20 man game together. Then you guys pretty much immediately reminded me why I don't play anymore. Lynch me if you want. You'll still be batting negative.

What's with this victim mentality? Since when have you ever been remotely considered a pariah. I mean what do you expect people to do you yourself have given us nothing to work with?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 14, 2017, 03:44:33 pm
*when yourself said you've given us nothing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 03:48:42 pm
Willy, would you care at all if Cyntalan was lynched?

(inb4 I'm trying to save TGG).

I don't have a read on either of them, probably because they've been pretty absent. I've been tunneled onto the big names. Its clear whoever is on mafia has the reads. That leaves MP, Augustus and Cobalt as 3 of the ones I'd be very wary about (outside of Chief and Syn who are cleared and dead). Thats where I've been putting my focus mostly, because at least 1 if not 2 of these are mafia, and it makes me nervous.

@Missing Person wants credit for being on Wilgy since day 1... congrats? He wasn't mafia, he was traitor. It got us no closer to really taking down the mafia. But you want us to suck your dick and act like you cleared yourself off that? If you are mafia, you wouldn't know he was traitor anyway, but somehow that clears you?

I'm the second most cleared person in this game, and yet you still want me dead. Despite the fact you thought enforces only worked on people with roles, you thought I was mafia wasting an enforce on my own night action just to get me to look clear night 1. Lol. The problem is, I'm the biggest voice of opposition you have, and you'll have an easier time controlling the game when I'm gone, hence the try to lynch me. I get it. I'm not even 100% certain you're dirty, theres the possiblity you're just dumb.

A TGG lynch should be a no brainer here, but I guess MP wants to keep up his 100% non voting on mafia streak.

I'll take my Chief L like a man, I was wrong but I am still sure I was wrong for the right reasons.

@Missing Person if you're the grey spy, you realize we actually have to hit mafia today or you're in pretty big danger of losing outright right? Wasting a lynch on me is pretty dumb.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 03:51:54 pm
And by the way I don't think Alpha's first post of day two crumbed a Willy clear, and even if it did, I want him dead for the bullshit way he tried to tie me to Chief last phase. Who wound up being town. Lol, we're def in cahoots, right?

Vote Registered For Pimp Willy

Not with chief, I already admitted my logic was flawed on that one. But you and MP, you guys have the balls to go after the second most cleared player in the game, when you have somebody like TGG who magically showed up to vote before deadline despite not being pinged and not being around the whole phase right in front of you? lol. I get you might be in a huge lead, but that lead can diminish quickly if you guys keep making dumb decisions. By all means, come after me and let's see how that works for you guys when I come up civ
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:03:38 pm
You guys still don't know how to read me. Perks of being social pariah I guess. Granted I haven't given you guys much to work with this time.

I didn't really even want to play this game. I'm completely retired from mafia. I signed up to be nice since you guys were scrambling to even put a 20 man game together. Then you guys pretty much immediately reminded me why I don't play anymore. Lynch me if you want. You'll still be batting negative.
Nah, fuck this, man.

You signed up for the game, now fucking try and cut the whiny retired loser bullshit.

@XthAtGAm3RGuYX

I mean it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:33:30 pm
Grey, godfather, and forged can come up as clear.

I'm not buying Willy's a hard clear for a fucking instant.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:34:15 pm
Not only was the supposed check never hardclaimed, it wasn't even breadcrumbed as a check.

And even so, with three roles that are bad that can turn out good, I'm not letting that stop me for a second.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:35:45 pm
I do and it's a very simple one. There has to be a mafia between Cobalt, Augustus, and MP. It makes the most logical sense in my mind. The scum team has done such a good job at hunting roles that there has to be a top tier player on the team.

It seems highly unlikely that a team of all wallflowers who would not waste their time looking through a thread peg those roles.
I'm flattered tbh but I'm a terrible role hunter.

Am I really considered top-tier here? Where?  ???
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 04:35:52 pm
Grey, godfather, and forged can come up as clear.

I'm not buying Willy's a hard clear for a fucking instant.

Where did I ever claim for a hard clear? I said you're stupid for going after somebody who is the second most cleared in the game. Theres a big difference.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:37:44 pm
Where did I ever claim for a hard clear? I said you're stupid for going after somebody who is the second most cleared in the game. Theres a big difference.
Second most cleared in the game my ass.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 04:45:12 pm
There are 13 players left in the game. Of this 13, there are 3 roles that could potentially check clear if bad. Grey spy, godfather, and forged mafia.

I'm not calling you ANY kind of clear when there's a 1 in 4 chance you're bad and checked clear, if you were even checked clear at all.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 04:53:17 pm
Second most cleared in the game my ass.

Okay, so who besides Chief and I is even anywhere near being cleared?

Also... about Chief... jesus toast post time.

Had a literal showerthought getting ready for valentines day. It still didn't sit right with me that Chief wouldn't turn Wilgy in if he had him dead to rights. Why wouldn't he?

Then it hit me.

Chief could very likely be the Lover paired with Mafia. Hence, his winning is tied to mafia winning and them surviving. Mafia wouldn't want to vote Chief, right, because then sure they might get the traitor, but they lose Chief + Another mafia buddy. It's just not worth it. So then, what happens, is the mafia gets to pile onto Wilgy, and circle jerk themselves and tell all the civs they were in the right the whole time.

This actually seems plausible to me.

I checked Jasons post history to see if he maybe left hints about who he chose, and the best I saw was him making a random "I missed playing with you, Chief" post.

So yeah, given this, theres no way Chief is locked clear either. He's at best on the same tier as me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 04:56:08 pm
There are 13 players left in the game. Of this 13, there are 3 roles that could potentially check clear if bad. Grey spy, godfather, and forged mafia.

I'm not calling you ANY kind of clear when there's a 1 in 4 chance you're bad and checked clear, if you were even checked clear at all.

But at the same time, I was also enforced N1. While admittedly that doesn't mean much since enforces are shown even on roleless, that's a lot of eggs to put in one basket, enforcing AND forging me the same night? That's...a reach. Godfather, sure I would take that and not much I can do to dispute that. Grey Spy too, but even if that was the case, why would you be so threatened by the grey spy unless you were mafia?

I'm not 100% clear, but to tunnel me over actual suspicious people with nothing in their favor and plenty against them raises my eyebrow
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 04:59:26 pm
@The Chief you're quick with the jesus toast reaction, but yet... haven't said much all day have you? Did you magically just show up to the thread as you were mentioned... again?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 05:05:06 pm
@The Chief you're quick with the jesus toast reaction, but yet... haven't said much all day have you? Did you magically just show up to the thread as you were mentioned... again?

Lol I was the first one talying this phase. I know you feel like you're contributing a ton. I find it valuable to let others get a word in as I resolve my reads.

If you want my current cliffnote, this is where I currently am.

Augustus and MP still come across as dirty.
Cobalt - Seems civ.
You - (PW) - Are super concerned with making yourself look clean.
FPSG - Looks civ.
Reiraku - Looks civ.

I'm just waiting to see whow will actually throw down a vote and where. That's where it really gets telling.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 05:09:21 pm
Its frustrating to be called dirty, when I was enforced n1 and breadcrumbed by the UC. It's like Im stuck in bizarro world and I don't understand.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 05:12:25 pm
Its frustrating to be called dirty, when I was enforced n1 and breadcrumbed by the UC. It's like Im stuck in bizarro world and I don't understand.

Pretend there's no cleared civs and work on solving the game. It'll help ease the frustration.

Truth be told, I don't like being confirmed even in the slightest because that isn't the goal. I could care less about clearing myself because whether I'm clear or not, we still gotta find mafia. Being cleared doesn't change that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 05:51:45 pm
See what happens when I post? All silence.

"Chief if here. He'll do all the heavy lifting for us."

Pietastic (an excellent researcher) once said "Civs always win if they pay attention."

I believe that to be true. This basically means we lost.

It is very hard to find at least 4 people who are playing to solve the game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 05:54:23 pm
Anyone want to at least share their current reads?

I'll do the homework of validating your findings.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 14, 2017, 06:13:22 pm
Any idea on my list so far?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 06:15:03 pm
Any idea on my list so far?

Um... where was it posted?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 14, 2017, 06:18:37 pm
Not too sure on too many players right now. Willy still seems a bit suspicious to me, and i don't think i can really clear any wallflowers.

I need to see more to decide anything. I'm just glad my one pick seemed to at least pan out a bit.

There you go. I'm honestly leaning towards Zoo since he's been way too quiet.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: The Chief on February 14, 2017, 06:25:43 pm
There you go. I'm honestly leaning towards Zoo since he's been way too quiet.

Ah. Ok. When you said "list" I assumed it would be a post with players names.

This post is kind of talking about everyone playing in general.

It would be easier to utilize if you could give specific names that you would like to see lynched.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 14, 2017, 06:36:48 pm
Right. Gotcha. As it stands I'm looking at zoo and tgg mostly.

Vote Registered For Orochizoolander

Just in case i miss the vote window due to work.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Reiraku on February 14, 2017, 06:41:06 pm
Also, i messed up on his name

Vote Registered For ZOOLANDER
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 06:45:00 pm
Willy's toast is interesting. We haven't found either of the lovers, right? Can't discount the possibility that it's a civ/mafia pair. I don't really think it works against Chief, but it is something to consider. There may be 5 people working for mafia interests instead of only 4.

I do keep going back and forth on him, though. First it was the day 1 vote, then it was the soft clear claim (which I really don't see, maybe I'm not looking hard enough?) and the enforce as proof. Here's some toast on that: mafia enforces a godfather or enforcer Willy(@Bious can enforcer self-enforce) because he has little heat, it looks really good on paper, and the mafia are confident enough in their reads to go high risk/high reward. I don't think that's too much of a stretch, if the mafia really are powerhouses like I'm beginning to think they are. (Ie, MP, Cobalt, Augustus). I'm thinking along the same lines as these fpsg posts:

I do and it's a very simple one. There has to be a mafia between Cobalt, Augustus, and MP. It makes the most logical sense in my mind. The scum team has done such a good job at hunting roles that there has to be a top tier player on the team.

It seems highly unlikely that a team of all wallflowers who would not waste their time looking through a thread peg those roles.

And that 2 proven civs had fingered those people as their suspicions. Because of this, my biggest scumreads are (Aug XOR MP), Cobalt, Willy, and, probably, some wallflower. TGG is a safe bet - may be relying on us thinking he'll disqualify and letting him get away - same with oz. That can't happen; one of them needs to go. I'd be willing to say it may be one of cynt and rei, though.

I think FPSG and knaggy, on top of Chief, are civilians. Though @Blindknagg has been quiet as well...
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 14, 2017, 06:56:36 pm
Sorry, I'm on a valentine's day date and not posting tonight. Yet here I am checking in anyway lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 14, 2017, 07:23:21 pm
I was about to say, "It's been three pages and literally no one has mentioned Blindknagg," but then FD did and I made a little excited noise.

But it looks like literally everyone else doesn't care, so.

Vote Registered For XthAtGAm3RGuYX

I'm gonna pull up votes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 07:29:41 pm
Vote Registered For TGG for now.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 07:30:03 pm
No Vote(6):Augustus, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(4):Blindknagg, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
Pimp Willy(1):Cobalt
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: vonvorto on February 14, 2017, 07:48:34 pm
Eh, the votecounts actually aren't that informative.

FD looks bad for having their vote off in BFE for most of the game. Fruit Punch is a dark spot on the Wilgy wagon when it had six votes, but that's a lot weaker.

This wagon is pretty interesting:

DrWilgy(7):   Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(4):   ForgeDigger, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(4):   Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy

There is very likely scum between Blindknagg and Cyntalan. Conveniently, no one is really talking about either of them. I highly doubt all seven people on the Wilgy wagon are town.

There's probably 1-2 scum abstaining. I'd say Fruit Punch is the scum on the Chief wagon.

Still think Augustus is town. This is the most I've seen him care about a game ever, I think, and it strikes me as townier than not.

Pimp Willy is probably town. The hoops mafia would have had to jump through to "clear" him are absurd.

I want to kill in [Blindknagg/Fruit Punch/TGG/Zoo] and see if that doesn't end the game. There's also the Neutral out there somewhere, but fuck 'em.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 14, 2017, 08:20:24 pm
Alright, birthday celebrations over for me. Lemme go scrounging back through the thread again to see if I missed anything.

As it is, I'm still unsold on MP, I think Chief is gray, and I'm still in firm belief of TGG's civ status.



Even if that last-minute vote shit was shady as fuck. (http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/bluu.gif)

And why is zoo still around? Shouldn't he have been DQed?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:05:04 pm
Fwiw I've been gutreading PW as civy for most of the game and shared a few opinions with him. Sure there's a possibility that he's grey/gf but I won't vote him off just yet.

You guys still don't know how to read me. Perks of being social pariah I guess. Granted I haven't given you guys much to work with this time.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268831889245077505.png)

Read what nigga? You've made 8 posts this whole game and besides this one 4 other posts have been in response to someone @ing you or voting for you, or you casting a vote.

Vote Registered For The Chief

Quote
That's rather apparent this game.

So this doesn't apply anymore then?

Well fuck you too faggot I'll just throw. Have fun being 2 civs down now.
Hmm

Whenever I am active everybody disregards what I say, and then when I die mafia twists what I said so they can dunk on civs. Fuck off with that

Fuck it. For the lulz
Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz

I dont remember how ties work here, but if I'm still alive in Day 2 I'll give a shit and catch up. If not, fuck you guys, I'll be playing Overwatch. Dont know what the current vote counts are. Dont give a fuck either.

I was gonna no vote but apparently that doesnt work.

Which leaves 3 posts which mostly is you explaining why you're not able to play / been missing / some light contribution to the game.

Meant to be in here earlier but starting work at 2am, working in 5degrees for 7 hours, sleeping for 12, then going back to work at midnight, I've been pretty drained. Plus my laptop FINALLY crapped out and now I can't monitor votes the way I like to. From the tim I've had to read stuff nothing has particularly caught my eye. Real talk I skipped like 7 pages from day 1 because, well, it was nothing but day 1 gibberish like it always is. I don't really like how many people flipped off of me immediately after I made one post, and I will look into that once I figure out an alternative vote tracking method without my laptop. Might have to break out some paper and go buy a couple highlighters. Co-Jones doesn't really bother me. He locks on to me every game we play together for any reason and no reason.

As always you guys know I don't really even contribute these days until somebody flips mafia.

Alright well since I'm not dead I'll read up after work. I do snow/ice control for the moment and I'm on the road right now. A lot of time in and out of the truck.

As for @Cobalt I'm a Flex, but I'm most notable for my McCree/Sombra/D.VA/Zenyatta.
https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/MJR_Poltergeist?

Currently in 3700's but I've been in the 4100's for competitive.

(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t486/XGAm3RX/Von%20Karma/fran-yankc.gif)

It took you guys 3 days and 10 pages to even make an ATTEMPT at contacting me? Last I checked there wasn't even a start date and Bious was still trying to fill the roster. Yet here we are, MP tags me in SRK lounge leaving me 30 mins to catch up on the game before day 1 ends, and there is a bandwagon on me to boot. Every single one of you knows my stance on wallflowers and absenteeism in mafia games, and every single one of you also knows that all you had to do was message me on SRK to get me to show up. I didnt even know this fucking game started yet.

You guys fucking wonder why I dont come around anymore.
Vote Registered For No Vote

So unless your stance on wallflowers has changed since last time we played you should understand why this lynch is about to happen.

My vote stands.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:09:11 pm
I think FPSG and knaggy, on top of Chief, are civilians. Though @Blindknagg has been quiet as well...

I'll admit that I got preoccupied with For Honor yesterday.

DEUS VULT!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:19:18 pm
And why is zoo still around? Shouldn't he have been DQed?

You must miss two votes in a row this game (https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0)

If Zoo shows up last minute casting a vote without contributing it could almost make me switch to him over Gamer.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 14, 2017, 10:34:46 pm
You must miss two votes in a row this game (https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0)

If Zoo shows up last minute casting a vote without contributing it could almost make me switch to him over Gamer.

Right. And he didn't vote in either day 1 or 2. He should have been DQd.

Day 1 Final Call:
RadicalFuzz(5):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, DrWilgy, Synonym, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
DrWilgy(4):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Missing Person, Reiraku
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(3):Cyntalan, Pimp Willy, The Chief
Cyntalan(2):Fruit Punch Samurai G, jasonC
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Invalid Vote(1):The-Co-Jones
vonvorto(1):RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger

Day 2 Final Call:
DrWilgy(9):Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
The Chief(4):Augustus, DrWilgy, Pimp Willy, XthAtGAm3RGuYX
No Vote(1):ZOOLANDER
Augustus(1):The Chief

That's two. Unless I'm misreading things.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:41:35 pm
Right. And he didn't vote in either day 1 or 2. He should have been DQd.

Day 1 Final Call:
Day 2 Final Call:
That's two. Unless I'm misreading things.

Believe it or not be he actually did manage to get a vote in at the end of day 2. :votebot:

The-Co-Jones(7):✰Alpha✰, Augustus, Blindknagg, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Synonym, ZOOLANDER
DrWilgy(5):Cobalt, DrWilgy, Missing Person, Reiraku, The-Co-Jones
No Vote(1):XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Synonym(1):vonvorto
Augustus(1):The Chief
Missing Person(1):Pimp Willy
Pimp Willy(1):ForgeDigger
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 14, 2017, 10:42:20 pm
Vote Registered For TGG

Squirm.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:43:05 pm
Day 1* Derp
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 10:43:39 pm
Sorry for the lateness on this.

Night 3
You Can't See Me


"So that night.."

***WE INTERRUPT THIS TALE TO BRING YOU A SPECIAL WRITEUP FROM A SPONSOR***


"BEEDLE-DEEDLE-LEE!!! BA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA BA-WIIIIIIIIIIIIISH!!!
HI I'M MR. TORGUE AND I LOOOOOOOOOOVE EXPLOSIONS! THIS F****IN GAME DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN IT! AND THAT PISSES ME OFF! I MEAN YOU HAVE A F****ING DUDE NAMED BOMBERMAN FOR CHRIST SAKES!!! SO THAT SYNONYM GUY? F**K HOW HE DIED! HERE IS HIS NEW DEATH: HE WAS PROBABLY TAKING A $#!T OR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAVE EXPLOSIONS WHEN THIS TRUXICAN WRESTLER DUDE KICKS DOWN HIS DOOR! SYNONYM TRIED TO SHOOT HIM, BUT BECAUSE HIS GUN WAS A PUSSY GUN THAT DIDN'T SHOOT ROCKET-POWERED EXPLODING BULLETS IT DID NOTHING! THEN THE TRUXICAN TOOK HIS DUAL GRENADE-LAUNCHERS AND BLEW SYNONYM'S HEAD CLEAN OFF! THEN HE EXPLODED HIS BODY! THEN THE ASHES! THEN THE ASHES OF THE ASHES!!! SYNONYM GOT BLOWN THE F**K UP Y'ALL!! IN FACT THE EXPLOSIONS WERE SO POWERFUL THAT THEY KNOCKED THIS NEARBY CHUMP CALLED FORGEDIGGER WHO OBVIOUSLY HASN'T BEEN EXPLODED EVER OUT! WEEDLE-DEEDLE-LEE! THIS HAS BEEN MR. TORGUE WITH YOUR MAFIA UPDATE! BUY TORGUE GUNS OR YOU'RE A F***IN AS***LE COWARD!!

***WE NOW RETURN YOU BACK TO YOUR GAME IN PROGRESS***

"So the next day..."

Synonym was killed! He was an Ordinary Spy!!
Forgedigger was enforced!


@ZOOLANDER recevies another warning! If he misses another vote at all this game he will be DQ'd!
DAY ENDS AT 11:00 PM FEBRUARY 15TH EST.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:44:25 pm
No wait... fuck I need my morning coffee  :votebot:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:45:54 pm
Yeah D2 was correct, we offed Wilgy D3. No coffee needed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 14, 2017, 10:46:47 pm
Believe it or not be he actually did manage to get a vote in at the end of day 2. :votebot:

Wait. I'm fucking confused now. Are we on day 3 or 4? With this statement, coupled with Bious saying Night 3 writeup, but with the thread still saying Day 3, my eyes are crossing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 14, 2017, 10:48:33 pm
Wait. I'm fucking confused now. Are we on day 3 or 4? With this statement, coupled with Bious saying Night 3 writeup, but with the thread still saying Day 3, my eyes are crossing.

Yeah I got mindfucked by the same thing. We're on day 4 now. Fuzz was lynched D1, Cojones D2 (when Zoo voted), and Wilgy D3.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 14, 2017, 10:50:18 pm
Gah, that was Day 3 that I quoted, not Day 2. Never mind. I'm being unhelpful. I'm going to shut up now, get some sleep, and maybe have some better insight in the morning. (http://forums.shoryuken.com/themes/Shoryuken/emoji/sleep.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 10:52:32 pm
It's Day 4, I forgot to change the 3 Skizzzgasm
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 10:54:16 pm
@Bious can enforcer self enforce?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 14, 2017, 10:55:15 pm
@Bious can enforcer self enforce?

No.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 14, 2017, 11:00:04 pm
No Vote(6):Augustus, Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 14, 2017, 11:36:15 pm
Hrm. At least Willy and I are confirmed not enforcer?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 04:29:14 am
Hrm. At least Willy and I are confirmed not enforcer?

I'd say that is true. Probably not Black Bomber either. Mafia wouldn't want to black their chance to take out a civ if Bomber got lynched.

The only thing Enforcer could possibly try to block is Medic so far. What else is worth blocking?

So they either think you or PW are Medic or they just want to cause confusion.

Why not just kill who they think is medic?

Thinking out loud here.

4 mafia. Need to find them.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 05:00:00 am
I suppose the best reason to not kill medic would be to avoid activating the vigi.

The n1 enforce could also be an attempt to block the UC. So, if we think about Pimp Willy getting enforced, if he was godfather, would the enforce block his UC immunity? Why would mafia do that? Would mafia want to block is action if he was Pinkie Pie or Bomber? He can't enforce himself.

Blocking Pinkie while the UC is at play seems like a ballsy move.

Blocking GF and Bomber would be retarded.

Gotta go with a no here. I think Pimp is civ now. If im wrong, I should not have come back to play these after being off so long. lol

No enforce N2 could mean the enforcer was afk or they realized they are actually clearing civs by doing it.

Enforce on N3 says that they read our discussions and saw we did not catch on that enforce wa clearing civs... so they wanted to add more confusion and went for it again.

They would be fine enforcing GF and Pinkie since UC is dead. As I said before, enforcing Bomber would be dumb. So Forge is not Bomber or Enforcer. They either think she is medic or they just want to add confusion.

End ramble.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 15, 2017, 05:15:02 am
I'd say that is true. Probably not Black Bomber either. Mafia wouldn't want to black their chance to take out a civ if Bomber got lynched.

Not that I'm subscribing to the mafia selfblock toast but wouldn't the enforcer only block the bomber's night action from going off making him a safe enforce before the vigi is enabled?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 05:24:21 am
Not that I'm subscribing to the mafia selfblock toast but wouldn't the enforcer only block the bomber's night action from going off making him a safe enforce before the vigi is enabled?

I thought it could only block at night, but to me that wouldn't make sense.

@Bious - Can enforcer only block night actions/abilities?

If only night actions can be blocked, telling us someone was enforced seems moot and only helps mafia rolehunt imo.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 06:52:19 am
While we wait for @Bious. I'll continue thinking through Pimp Willy being enforce N1.

It is likely UC checked Pimp the same night Pimp was enforced. Does that mean Pimp can't be god father (since godfathers UC check would be blocked by enforcer)?

@Bious - Can GF's ability be blocked?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 07:04:31 am
I doubt mafia were worried about a vigi; they tend to do more harm than help for the civs. Though maybe the enforcer acted alone if he really was afk and in a rush.

TGG could be flustered with having to read 2 threads, adding to his want to have an out.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 09:57:49 am
I suppose the best reason to not kill medic would be to avoid activating the vigi.

The n1 enforce could also be an attempt to block the UC. So, if we think about Pimp Willy getting enforced, if he was godfather, would the enforce block his UC immunity? Why would mafia do that? Would mafia want to block is action if he was Pinkie Pie or Bomber? He can't enforce himself.

Blocking Pinkie while the UC is at play seems like a ballsy move.

Blocking GF and Bomber would be retarded.

Gotta go with a no here. I think Pimp is civ now. If im wrong, I should not have come back to play these after being off so long. lol

No enforce N2 could mean the enforcer was afk or they realized they are actually clearing civs by doing it.

Enforce on N3 says that they read our discussions and saw we did not catch on that enforce wa clearing civs... so they wanted to add more confusion and went for it again.

They would be fine enforcing GF and Pinkie since UC is dead. As I said before, enforcing Bomber would be dumb. So Forge is not Bomber or Enforcer. They either think she is medic or they just want to add confusion.

End ramble.
Blocking bomber is ABSOLUTELY plausible on night one when there's no KP sand no chance of him getting shot. He's basically useless unless lynched or night killed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 10:02:10 am
Blocking bomber is ABSOLUTELY plausible on night one when there's no KP sand no chance of him getting shot. He's basically useless unless lynched or night killed.

What if Bomber can be blocked from going off during a lynch?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:02:29 am
People I'm okay with lynching:

Pimp Willy
TGG
Cyntalan
Reiraku
FPSG
OZ
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:06:08 am
What if Bomber can be blocked from going off during a lynch?
If they didn't think he was in any day 2 danger (which he wasn't because Wilgy was taking heat even before the widow mess) it's still a safe move to make.

Even if we look away from PW for now I am telling you - do not write him off as town. He's worked way too hard at trying to subtly discredit me. To the point of saying we must be "in cahoots" - a statement that made absolutely no sense when the claim scenario meant you were confirmed to be either town or third party.

He has further been extremely concerned with the suspicion facing him - trying really hard to write it off and currently claiming a N1 clear check iirc.

I don't think Alpha's first post of D2 necessarily implied a clear check at all. If I'm wrong and that's how he usually crumbs, someone provide an example and I'll re-think my position on it.

But even if he WAS the N1 check and wasn't red, there's three possible bad roles he can be with a clear.

So, as I said, even if we look away from him for now, please do NOT write him off as town.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:09:27 am
Also, I think it was mentioned that I'm not any clearer for being right on Wilgy, but I disagree.

I can't remember who said it and I'm mobile right now, but it was said that I could have actually thought Chief was widow and was trying to save him so he had an extra night to confirm.

But I have to point out my thought process surrounding Wilgy during the claim scenario. Were I really a baddie, I would have processed the scenario in the same way, determined Wilgy was widow, and would have pushed Chief instead.

What I'm saying is, my read of Wilgy would have occurred to me the same way regardless of whether I was scum - meaning that I'd have no reason to push him were I aiming to get him to convert.

Not only that, I'd have ample opportunity to use his fake medic claim as a reason to lynch Chief first.

Just something I wanted to clear up.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:10:37 am
I'm also thinking it might be time for a lovers claim.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 10:36:11 am
Wilgy lynch - Mafia don't care about the outcome.
Civs do.

Mafia would like to use the lynch to look very clean.
Civ would be concerned about getting it right.

Roleclaiming doesn't help us unless it's a Civ/Civ pairing. You'd have to be confident in your read of the person your paired with, or you'd have to be mafia and know noone in your crew was in a private PM chat.

If mafia want to narrow down civ roles to avoid hitting the medic, roleclaiming would help their cause.

Missing Person
Augustus
Cobalt
Vonvorto

Why do you all want to lynch wallflowers so bad suddenly?

All doing questionable things late game. As outspoken as you guys (excluding von) have been, mafia has kept you around.

I think Synonym was killed because his list was off, but killing him makes it look credible. His list contains the same flowers.

Still piecing this together. I just hope others won't be afraid to vote for any of you when the time comes.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:42:11 am
Been busy. Just lynch TGG.

Cobalt, Willy's likely not a wolf. He was lousy last time he was one in the game you were overseeing. So I dunno how you're getting there.

Would also like you to reconsider von because I think he's a wolf all of a sudden.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 10:42:38 am
Lovers won't claim if they're not both civ. If they are both civ, its a 2 for 1 kill for Mafia. If they are not both civ, they keep their mouth shut. You sure have been trying hard to get people to claim though, repeatedly, all game.

My current feels

Mafia:
Black Spy: Likely one of the quiet people: Cynt, Reir, Von
Black Bomberman: MP or Cobalt
Pinkie Pie: Forge Digger or Cynt
Garcian Smith: TGG

Grey Spy: Somebody working hard to stay off the radar, likely the same list as Black Spy. Could also be MP, I think.

Lovers: Chief is still very likely, given how he played it, making it a likely Mafia/Civ pair with chief as the Civ. However, its still likely there is a civ/civ pair.

I'd be fine voting for pretty much any of the people on this list
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:43:19 am
Why do you all want to lynch wallflowers so bad suddenly?

We don't have to, but good luck at end game when they're still around.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:44:27 am
Vote Registered For vonvorto

For excitement!
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:45:20 am
Been busy. Just lynch TGG.

Cobalt, Willy's likely not a wolf. He was lousy last time he was one in the game you were overseeing. So I dunno how you're getting there.

Would also like you to reconsider von because I think he's a wolf all of a sudden.
Elaborate.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:46:10 am
Can we revisit the lynching from the Wilgy wagon idea?

There's likely to be one or two scum there.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:48:41 am
On Willy or von?

Willy was way more reserved last time as a wolf, iirc.

And then von is mostly a feeling. There has been a serious lack of pushes his way. And his main opponent - Synonym - was killed.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:49:27 am
(Though I'm aware you think Synonym was killed for wrong reads. You don't know that for certain though.)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 10:50:25 am
I'd like to get one of the vocal players out of the way. It would give us much more info to use.

Either MP, AUG, COB or Von (although less vocal).

There already a pattern for who's defending who.

MP has both defended and suspected Augustus.
Augustus has both defended and suspected Cobalt.
Cobalt has both defended and suspected MP.

1 of those 4 is the best lynch today. Leave the flowers alone. Voting TGG will lose us the game... even if he is mafia.

We lynched a flower on day 2 and got nothing from it.
Got nothing from day 3.
Got nothing from day 1.

Gotta get a big name today.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 10:50:38 am
On Willy or von?

Willy was way more reserved last time as a wolf, iirc.

And then von is mostly a feeling. There has been a serious lack of pushes his way. And his main opponent - Synonym - was killed.

Von.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 10:51:32 am
I vote not me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 10:57:29 am
I'd like to get one of the vocal players out of the way. It would give us much more info to use.

Either MP, AUG, COB or Von (although less vocal).

There already a pattern for who's defending who.

MP has both defended and suspected Augustus.
Augustus has both defended and suspected Cobalt.
Cobalt has both defended and suspected MP.

1 of those 4 is the best lynch today. Leave the flowers alone. Voting TGG will lose us the game... even if he is mafia.

We lynched a flower on day 2 and got nothing from it.
Got nothing from day 3.
Got nothing from day 1.

Gotta get a big name today.
I defended MP until he pulled a quick fuckin 180 on his read of me because Aug expressed doubt towards me.

It's opportunistic as hell and I'd actually be okay with lynching him now.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 11:00:03 am
No Vote(5):Cyntalan, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 11:02:28 am
I thought it could only block at night, but to me that wouldn't make sense.

@Bious - Can enforcer only block night actions/abilities?

If only night actions can be blocked, telling us someone was enforced seems moot and only helps mafia rolehunt imo.

Yes.


Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 11:03:50 am
While we wait for @Bious. I'll continue thinking through Pimp Willy being enforce N1.

It is likely UC checked Pimp the same night Pimp was enforced. Does that mean Pimp can't be god father (since godfathers UC check would be blocked by enforcer)?

@Bious - Can GF's ability be blocked?

No.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 11:08:19 am
Poor Willy.

Don't worry. I will be your hero.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 11:08:33 am
I defended MP until he pulled a quick fuckin 180 on his read of me because Aug expressed doubt towards me.

It's opportunistic as hell and I'd actually be okay with lynching him now.

Sounds good to me. Right now I'm the only who voted Missing Person.

Heres a good question; what reason does mafia have to keep MP around if he's civ?

Night kills were JasonC, Alpha and Synonym. Syn did not suspect MP. JasonC and Alpha did though.

Anyway, if von ends up dying as bomber and I get taken out as collateral, continue wit my list as is.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 11:09:14 am
Not much time for me, at work, but on catching up with the thread, I will be more than happy to put MP, Augustus, or PW on the chopping block. All 3 have this similar gameplan of trying to be town leader, and it all feels scummy. But I doubt all 3 are mafia. 1 for sure, possibly 2. However...

Chief, for the last two days, you've done quite a bit to make it seem like you want to stall the game as long as possible. None of your arguments sound intelligent from a town point of view, but I know you well enough that you wouldn't make yourself sound this scummy as mafia. I doubt I could get anyone here to rally behind me to prove that fact and lynch you at this time, which is sad, as the gray spy wants to make this game last forever, and leaving you alive longer just gives you more converts. Mafia doesn't continually grow like you, so I'd rather us stop the cancer before dealing with the infection.

Vote Registered For The Chief

As for TGG, I still insist you're barking up the wrong tree. That Day 1 post of his seems way too full of reality to not be legit. I don't think he's a useful civ, or even a role, but he's definitely a civ.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 11:11:31 am
lol?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 11:12:55 am
Not much time for me, at work, but on catching up with the thread, I will be more than happy to put MP, Augustus, or PW on the chopping block.

Which one would be your preference?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 11:19:54 am
I find it concerning that the one player confirmed to not be mafia is getting votes.

Only I could do that.

Chief as a confirmed civ is an oxymoron. Always.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 15, 2017, 11:24:24 am
 I'm not gonna lynch Chief while there's 4(5 with lover) mafia still around.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 11:30:06 am
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Cyntalan
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:39:27 am
Grey Spy: Somebody working hard to stay off the radar, likely the same list as Black Spy. Could also be MP, I think.

Nigga, at what point have I "worked hard to stay off the radar?"

Read this thread more, not the Witchhunt game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 11:40:44 am
Which one would be your preference?

 :blank:
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:43:17 am
Cynt:



Me:

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 11:44:44 am
Lovers claiming is awful, because if they're both town, that's an easy 2-for-1 shot.

Pimp Willy throwing shade on Chief is kind of gross. Cyntalan's vote is bad, but pings town.

Augustus, divine Blindknagg's alignment for me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:48:20 am
I don't think mafia is great at role hunting. They are (technically) 1 of 3.

2 of 3 if you count jason, who essentially doesn't have a role since his role's usefulness ended in pre-game.

So 1 of 3.

Cynt is not good at role hunting. Chief is, but Chief is already a lock clear, but would be meta clear off the mafia kills.

Augustus? I'd gauge as pretty good, but not too sure since I've only played one game where Augustus was scum and he didn't do so well.

You guys can essentially decide for yourselves how I am at role hunting. I did catch jasonC in the Disney game, knew exactly which role he had. I believe he was not the only one.

But the thing is, role hunting is not this mafia's forte. It looks more like playing Yomi plays.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Night 2 (Oh Jonesy)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:49:57 am
Alpha's last accusation:

Well at least it's an easy lynch tomorrow on OZ.

Probably irrelevant if he doesn't show up.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:54:45 am
Right. Gotcha. As it stands I'm looking at zoo and tgg mostly.

Vote Registered For Orochizoolander

Just in case i miss the vote window due to work.

I feel like these are way too convenient. You are picking a people who have not been here in any capacity to defend themselves.

I feel like out of my leans on you and Cobalt, you just shot up from 45% mafia to more like 65~70% mafia to Cobalt's 30~35%.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:55:39 am
I'm not saying that OZ/TGG can't be mafia, but that list seems way too convenient a scapegoat for a newer player.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:55:48 am
Vote Registered For Reiraku
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:56:39 am
Boom! Dead.

Boom! Dead. Common thread is they both have Augustus and they both mention top tier player. Idk seems like we have an Occam razor situtaion.

This is not a horrible post.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 11:59:19 am
Could also explain why Reiraku voted Wilgy with me the whole way down but failed to vote Augustus when he has seemed to be yes-manning me. Possible that he was able to when he was unsure of Wilgy's alignment, but draws the line on a potential scum.

I'm in a 50/50 right now of wanting to vote either or. @The Chief, would you join on Augustus? If he turns up scum, I think we can go for Reiraku next.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 12:00:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Reiraku(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Cyntalan
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 12:05:06 pm
Nigga, at what point have I "worked hard to stay off the radar?"

Read this thread more, not the Witchhunt game.

Do you know what independant clauses are? I mean, I assume you do since you taught kids. The second sentence, of "Could also be MP" is independent of the first one, which said they'd be trying to stay off the radar. You haven't, but the way you've played seems like it could be grey spyish.

Poor Willy.

Don't worry. I will be your hero.

Nah Chief was right, I'm worrying too much about trying to look clean when in the end it doesn't matter. Bizzaro world or not, Im trying to solve this game not look clean. Having shade thrown my way is nothing new, its just I'm used to it when I actually deserve it, not when I don't lol.


I think putting some pressure on the wallflowers is the way to go, after we squeeze TGG to see what he's got cooking.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 12:06:25 pm
Do you know what independant clauses are? I mean, I assume you do since you taught kids. The second sentence, of "Could also be MP" is independent of the first one, which said they'd be trying to stay off the radar. You haven't, but the way you've played seems like it could be grey spyish.

I do, but the way they were partitioned in the post made it seem connected. That's the nagging point that drove me nuts.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 12:10:03 pm
I still want to sort out Cyntalan, I still don't like him, but I'd be more apt to lynch Augustus or Reiraku today.

I don't like how agreeable the TGG lynch seems right now.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 12:25:11 pm
FYI: Blindknagg has marked these posts as insightful

Oh yeah Cobalt looks good too.

But considering the Syn death, there's one person that looks dirty with it, and it's vonvorto for townvoting him twice.  And usually that's to try to throw dirt on someone.

There's one person other than Pimp who would try to throw dirt on someone to get them lynched off, because he's tried it before:

Cyntalan

I'm not saying that OZ/TGG can't be mafia, but that list seems way too convenient a scapegoat for a newer player.

This was posts with me calling three people dirty:

Cyntalan
Cobalt
Reiraku

One of these lynches could easily help deduce Blindknagg's alignment.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 12:26:32 pm
And out of those three, the two I want to lynch right now would be Cyntalan and Reiraku.

I'm adding in Augustus due to Reiraku.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 12:35:37 pm
Well it's likely that the people voting TGG have checked out.

Only people left to appeal to are the wallflowers. OZ, TGG, Reiraku amd FPSG.

@Missing Person - Are you voting Augustus?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 12:36:37 pm
So far, we've been ignoring the wallflower players and it hasn't been working for us. I also had TGG early on and have been pretty consistent in my dislike for inactive players. Wilgy seemed off on day one, which I agreed with you on. Day 2 didn't do anything better for him with his "Fine! Kill me!" play and we saw how day 3 went. As it stands, Zoo seemed to be the most common sense play in that he has offered up the least (that is nothing) to be helpful at all.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:37:50 pm
Augustus, divine Blindknagg's alignment for me.

I dunno.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 12:38:02 pm
@Reiraku - TCJ and Wilgy were both wallflowers and we're both lynched.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 12:38:51 pm
I dunno.

Well, this doesn't help us slove the game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:39:18 pm
Oh, MP.

You poor thing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:39:51 pm
Well, this doesn't help us slove the game.

At least it's an honest answer. I could make something up, if you'd like.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 12:40:19 pm
How many lynches do we have left before we lose?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:40:42 pm
So far, we've been ignoring the wallflower players and it hasn't been working for us. I also had TGG early on and have been pretty consistent in my dislike for inactive players. Wilgy seemed off on day one, which I agreed with you on. Day 2 didn't do anything better for him with his "Fine! Kill me!" play and we saw how day 3 went. As it stands, Zoo seemed to be the most common sense play in that he has offered up the least (that is nothing) to be helpful at all.

No we haven't, lol.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 12:41:29 pm
At least it's an honest answer. I could make something up, if you'd like.

I don't understand how, as a civ, you're trying to help us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 12:44:55 pm
I still haven't gotten an explanation from MP on how he goes from "oh Cobalt looks good too" to "that's why I have Cobalt as a scumlean alongside Reiraku"
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 12:45:26 pm
Wilgy posted a bit more than the other three (at least at the time of his lynching). TCJ had a few posts, but died basically immediately. Zoo still hasn't done anything. TGG is looking like an easy target, but I still think Zoo looks the worst out of all.

Chief- which vocal player would say seems off the most?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:46:20 pm
Rei likely a wolf if TGG flips one. I mean, you're essentially lying about what's been going on and potentially to save a bro.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:47:04 pm
I don't understand how, as a civ, you're trying to help us.

Okay, I'll just lie to you next time. Apologies.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:48:59 pm
Cobalt, I swear your play has gotten more bizarre as the game has gone on.

Tone-wise, mostly.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:50:04 pm
Are you villager-reading von just because he's villager-reading you?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 12:54:42 pm
Ok, so because Chief was confirmed mafia, he's confirmed civ? In a game with a third party? Come on now.

Yes, MP, I feel you, Aug, and Pimp are dirty (in that order of filthiness, to answer Aug). You all reek of mafia. But you don't grow. You are at 4, and you will remain no greater than 4. Meanwhile, third party is quite likely at 4 total as well now. And no one knows who, 'cept said third party. Could be 3 mafia. Could be 3 civs. Could be a mixture in between. Plus, third party's probably picked out people that currently aren't being looked at funny for the same reason. Every day we hang someone that's not the third party is one day closer to a loss as well, regardless if we hit mafia (unless we somehow manage to 1-2-3-4 it AND they end up converted in the process). Frankly, I don't see how you can't see this logic if you're the oh-so-helpful civ you're portraying yourself to be. While I'm 90% certain Chief's the third party, if I'm wrong, it's you.

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 12:56:48 pm
About BK:

All he's been doing this game is just following along proposed wagons. Problem is that's what he also does as a villager which is why I say I don't know. So good luck if he also makes it to end game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 01:01:47 pm
Ok, so because Chief was confirmed mafia, he's confirmed civ? In a game with a third party? Come on now.

Yes, MP, I feel you, Aug, and Pimp are dirty (in that order of filthiness, to answer Aug). You all reek of mafia. But you don't grow. You are at 4, and you will remain no greater than 4. Meanwhile, third party is quite likely at 4 total as well now. And no one knows who, 'cept said third party. Could be 3 mafia. Could be 3 civs. Could be a mixture in between. Plus, third party's probably picked out people that currently aren't being looked at funny for the same reason. Every day we hang someone that's not the third party is one day closer to a loss as well, regardless if we hit mafia (unless we somehow manage to 1-2-3-4 it AND they end up converted in the process). Frankly, I don't see how you can't see this logic if you're the oh-so-helpful civ you're portraying yourself to be. While I'm 90% certain Chief's the third party, if I'm wrong, it's you.

Cyntalan - What you're not getting is we are pretry much out of time. We can't waste lynches on anyone who is not mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 01:07:25 pm
Wilgy posted a bit more than the other three (at least at the time of his lynching). TCJ had a few posts, but died basically immediately. Zoo still hasn't done anything. TGG is looking like an easy target, but I still think Zoo looks the worst out of all.

Chief- which vocal player would say seems off the most?

All of the ones I listed. It would be helpful if you lynched a non wallflower this phase.

@Blindknagg - I apologize if I missed it but who is your highest mafia read?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 01:17:47 pm
Going back and re-reading to see if anything stands out to me. Willy's flip on Cobalt seemed strange too. MP as well. Anyone else have thoughts on that?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 01:24:31 pm
Did I flip on either of them? I think I've been anti everyone since the start. I don't think I've given anybody a civ read yet.

If I had to pick one hard civ read, it'd be Augustus oddly enough
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 01:37:47 pm
How do you feel about MP, Chief, and Cobalt so far? Cobalt seems good so far, as does Chief.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 01:38:41 pm
How do you feel about MP, Chief, and Cobalt so far? Cobalt seems good so far, as does Chief.

Let's vote MP.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 01:55:49 pm
So far, we've been ignoring the wallflower players and it hasn't been working for us. I also had TGG early on and have been pretty consistent in my dislike for inactive players. Wilgy seemed off on day one, which I agreed with you on. Day 2 didn't do anything better for him with his "Fine! Kill me!" play and we saw how day 3 went. As it stands, Zoo seemed to be the most common sense play in that he has offered up the least (that is nothing) to be helpful at all.

OZ dies now if he doesn't check in and vote. Voting him is non-sequitur and only serves to hide you from scrutiny if you are on a mislynch wagon, and keeps you from having to bus a mafia wagon if it's majority or else face scrutiny for not being on it.

Oh, MP.

You poor thing.

Yeah I know, you're T4T and targeted me.

It's ok. At least I'd die right.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 01:58:45 pm
I still haven't gotten an explanation from MP on how he goes from "oh Cobalt looks good too" to "that's why I have Cobalt as a scumlean alongside Reiraku"

I didn't recall seeing you ask.

It's the me2 thing going on between the two of you. Last game I played town that I actually had time to play, this happened.  Game of champions had this happen when I was in it. I don't buy that for two people who have me2'd me the whole game, that one of them is not scum.

I could also pile von in there, and believe that he may have blinked when I became concerned about the me2 tactics when he started voting Syn after d1. But the mere fact that Syn died n3 when he wasn't a clear leads me to believe that von wouldn't have allowed that trigger to be pulled.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 01:59:24 pm
Cyntalan - What you're not getting is we are pretry much out of time. We can't waste lynches on anyone who is not mafia.

And we can on the third party? That's kinda what I'm getting at. It seems to me like you want us to head for a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. Considering I have you pegged for third party...

I did just think of something that would help out a little, though - Hey @Bious, when someone is lynched/killed/etc., if they were marked by the gray spy, would the writeup say as such?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:01:03 pm
Going back and re-reading to see if anything stands out to me. Willy's flip on Cobalt seemed strange too. MP as well. Anyone else have thoughts on that?

I buy this as reactionary to my saying his sudden change in me2 tactics look bad.

I feel like I'm sniffing gunsmoke here.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:02:13 pm
@Missing Person - Are you voting Augustus?

Sure.

Vote Registered For Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:03:15 pm
Let's vote MP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HJxya0CWco
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:08:24 pm
About BK:

All he's been doing this game is just following along proposed wagons. Problem is that's what he also does as a villager which is why I say I don't know. So good luck if he also makes it to end game.

He does that regardless of alignment.

I want to check the game where he was mafia and see how he was caught.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 02:08:37 pm
How do you feel about MP, Chief, and Cobalt so far? Cobalt seems good so far, as does Chief.

Pretty sure I've put my reads on all of them so far. MP, T4T or Gray Spy. Cobalt, likely T4T if MP is not, or generic mafia. Chief, I mean we know he's not mafia. He could be gray spy or Lover paired with Mafia, both explain his weird sitting silent on Wilgys reveal to him.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 02:11:11 pm
Pretty sure I've put my reads on all of them so far. MP, T4T or Gray Spy. Cobalt, likely T4T if MP is not, or generic mafia. Chief, I mean we know he's not mafia. He could be gray spy or Lover paired with Mafia, both explain his weird sitting silent on Wilgys reveal to him.

Are you sticking to TGG this lynch?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:16:10 pm
Here's the thing:

PW has wanted my head for several days now. He has seriously not once put me under any threat of getting lynched. Not a single time. And given that he believes me to be a specific role, with a 50/50 between myself and Cobalt, you'd think he'd pull the trigger on either/or.  His vote is stuck on TGG.

That's very telling.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:18:33 pm
The thing is he doesn't have the scrotum to do so.  Because he knows I'm clean, I'm putting in work trying to solve the game, and if he managed to lead a mislynch on me, he'd be dead.

For what purpose?

Either he is mafia or gray spy. I can't buy him as civilian, and if you don't want to believe he's mafia because enforce that's fine, but you should at least be entertaining the notion that he's 3P.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 02:26:18 pm
If he is Gray, and got enforced, then that gives him two conversions at most, if both are still alive.

That is manageable later, and we need to hit mafia now. We can easily off PW later if someone we don't hit in scum list is gray spy.

But now, we have to hit mafia. If you don't buy a PW mafia lean, at least think about what you would say the possibility of PW being 3P is before dismissing him as town (and bad town at that)
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, Cobalt, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(1):The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Cyntalan
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 02:40:21 pm


Well it's likely that the people voting TGG have checked out.

Only people left to appeal to are the wallflowers. OZ, TGG, Reiraku amd FPSG.

I haven't checked out. I'm worried that TGG will slip in at the last second when we've left him hoping he'll seppuku.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 15, 2017, 02:54:34 pm
All of the ones I listed. It would be helpful if you lynched a non wallflower this phase.

@Blindknagg - I apologize if I missed it but who is your highest mafia read?

Still Gamer. Can't see him not contributing and calling it quits just to show up at the worst possible timing instead of taking the DQ as civ.
He's not typically a wallflower player so something smells about it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 02:56:43 pm
Are you sticking to TGG this lynch?

I can't see a world in which TGG is not the lynch today for me

Here's the thing:

PW has wanted my head for several days now. He has seriously not once put me under any threat of getting lynched. Not a single time. And given that he believes me to be a specific role, with a 50/50 between myself and Cobalt, you'd think he'd pull the trigger on either/or.  His vote is stuck on TGG.

That's very telling.

Theres no traction on you, and theres no need today. TGGs actions and posts have made it so he has to go. I don't think people are very willing to go for you, so I have no need to force anything. Your time will come, you'll see.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 03:23:58 pm
????

That makes no sense.

"I want MP gone."

Then vote him.

"I don't want to vote him."

Why?

"There's no traction on him."

There's one vote and that could shift things if more people jump on him.

"I don't think people are willing to go for him."

But there's one vote on him.

"See? No traction *votes away from MP*"

But you have him listed as exact roles.

"So?"

Repeat ad infinitum across day phases.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 03:24:29 pm
^That is literally your entire merry go round on me since D1.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 03:30:19 pm
And as for me getting mine lol.

I'll make an avatar bet with @Pimp Willy right now that I'll live longer than he does.  Only valid through lynch votes and vigi kills. If one of us is night killed by mafia it's void.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 03:52:00 pm
lol, avatar bets. Alright. I'm in.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cobalt on February 15, 2017, 04:11:46 pm
I didn't recall seeing you ask.

It's the me2 thing going on between the two of you. Last game I played town that I actually had time to play, this happened.  Game of champions had this happen when I was in it. I don't buy that for two people who have me2'd me the whole game, that one of them is not scum.

I could also pile von in there, and believe that he may have blinked when I became concerned about the me2 tactics when he started voting Syn after d1. But the mere fact that Syn died n3 when he wasn't a clear leads me to believe that von wouldn't have allowed that trigger to be pulled.

Yeah no. Bullshit.

If that read developed organically, you would have been talking about it prior. You wouldn't say Cobalt looks good at the beginning of the phase and then as soon as one person expresses doubt about me you snap into "yeah he's my scumlean". It's WAY too opportunistic and convenient. Fuck that shit.

Vote Registered For Missing Person

Die.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 04:30:03 pm
No Vote(4):Fruit Punch Samurai G, Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(4):Blindknagg, ForgeDigger, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
Missing Person(2):Cobalt, The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Cyntalan
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 04:43:37 pm
Yeah no. Bullshit.

If that read developed organically, you would have been talking about it prior. You wouldn't say Cobalt looks good at the beginning of the phase and then as soon as one person expresses doubt about me you snap into "yeah he's my scumlean". It's WAY too opportunistic and convenient. Fuck that shit.

Vote Registered For Missing Person

Die.

Because town and scum leans are never in flux. Like never ever, never ever, never ever.

Uh huh, sure.

You are even completely glossing over the fact that my read on you changed again after looking further into Reiraku. So uh, this just looks like pissy bullshit because *gasp* I uttered your name and scum lean in the same breath, because why?

This right here. This shit right here. Makes it hard to take you off the scum lean list, despite the fact that I would be more eager to vote Reiraku over you in that coin flip.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 04:44:42 pm
Opportunistic, and yet I hadn't ONCE suggested a Cobalt lynch. I figured more info would be brought to light later.

And yet it has, on both sides of the coin.

Nigga please.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 05:02:38 pm
Honestly, I like an Augustus lynch far more than you or Reiraku, and I think Augustus flipping scum would allow me to meta read you as town and Reiraku as scum.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 15, 2017, 05:02:49 pm

TGG could be flustered with having to read 2 threads, adding to his want to have an out.

Go fuck yourself for implying I don't have the mental capacity to multi task
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 05:05:47 pm
Interactions and spews alone between Cobalt and Reiraku and Augustus would prove alignments among those three off a lynch of Augustus, who is the centerpiece of those spews.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 05:15:17 pm
Just got home from work. I'm 3 pages behind give me a bit to catch up and contribute.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 05:15:30 pm
Go fuck yourself for implying I don't have the mental capacity to multi task
Sorry for humanizing you
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 05:40:57 pm
Legit don't get how I'm tied to Rei.

MP lynch is a mistake, btw. (lol him tho)

Also, I voted vonvorto to get people talking about him and nobody did (sans MP and Chief) . Seriously think he's being intentionally ignored. I tried to specifically get something out of Cobalt concerning him and I was given nothing.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 05:48:50 pm
Thought of something.

If TGG randed bomber, then it makes sense why he's being so useless but still popping in to keep himself in the game.

Still lynch or no?

Obviously no credit to those who've been voting him if he is just that.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 05:52:12 pm
And we can on the third party? That's kinda what I'm getting at. It seems to me like you want us to head for a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. Considering I have you pegged for third party...

I did just think of something that would help out a little, though - Hey @Bious, when someone is lynched/killed/etc., if they were marked by the gray spy, would the writeup say as such?

Nope.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 05:53:03 pm
Btw 2 hours till phase ends.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 05:55:24 pm
I'm not really sure what to make of Von, I read his post about who he thought was scum and it feels more like a post to give off the appearance of doing work idk though. It kinda feels like a copout. I mean its pretty easy to say "hey let's lynch all the wallflowers" and appear is if you're trying.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 3(At least I don't have to copy/paste his name again)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 05:57:22 pm
Eh, the votecounts actually aren't that informative.

FD looks bad for having their vote off in BFE for most of the game. Fruit Punch is a dark spot on the Wilgy wagon when it had six votes, but that's a lot weaker.

This wagon is pretty interesting:

DrWilgy(7):   Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, Missing Person, Reiraku, Synonym, vonvorto
No Vote(4):   ForgeDigger, The Chief, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
The Chief(4):   Augustus, DrWilgy, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy

There is very likely scum between Blindknagg and Cyntalan. Conveniently, no one is really talking about either of them. I highly doubt all seven people on the Wilgy wagon are town.

There's probably 1-2 scum abstaining. I'd say Fruit Punch is the scum on the Chief wagon.

Still think Augustus is town. This is the most I've seen him care about a game ever, I think, and it strikes me as townier than not.

Pimp Willy is probably town. The hoops mafia would have had to jump through to "clear" him are absurd.

I want to kill in [Blindknagg/Fruit Punch/TGG/Zoo] and see if that doesn't end the game. There's also the Neutral out there somewhere, but fuck 'em.

This post btw. Forgot to quote it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:00:48 pm
I also don't like the fact that we have votes all over the place. I feel like chaos is no good for us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:03:50 pm
Thought of something.

If TGG randed bomber, then it makes sense why he's being so useless but still popping in to keep himself in the game.

Still lynch or no?

Obviously no credit to those who've been voting him if he is just that.

I say we still lynch and hope for a clutch medic protect at night, if that's the case.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:12:44 pm
Cyntalan, why vote Chief? Even if he is third party it's a wasted vote b/c he for sure isn't mafia. We need to hit a mafia today.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 06:17:46 pm
I'm not really sure what to make of Von, I read his post about who he thought was scum and it feels more like a post to give off the appearance of doing work idk though. It kinda feels like a copout. I mean its pretty easy to say "hey let's lynch all the wallflowers" and appear is if you're trying.
I like this post. Post more please, Fruity.

Sent from my SM-T113 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:20:32 pm
Hypothetical, If TGG flips mafia what does it tell us? 
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:31:31 pm
Vote Registered For tgg

For now, I want to stare at votebot. I may change it. Probably will if i get some sort of light bulb moment from Pimp, Auggy, MP, and Cobalts posts. I have a strong feeling that there is a scum person in that group. But it's just a feeling i need to really focus this last 1hr.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 06:33:10 pm
New respect for FPSG.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:40:08 pm
Chief your thoughts on vonvorto?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 06:41:23 pm
Legit don't get how I'm tied to Rei.

MP lynch is a mistake, btw. (lol him tho)

Also, I voted vonvorto to get people talking about him and nobody did (sans MP and Chief) . Seriously think he's being intentionally ignored. I tried to specifically get something out of Cobalt concerning him and I was given nothing.

Funny, I feel the same way about Blindknagg. And to a lesser extent, Cyntalan.

Zoo's name never pops up without the words "I want to lynch" preceding it.

TGG is literally not playing and should have let himself get DQ'd and save us the trouble.

Do you want something from me, or do you want other people to want something from me?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 06:43:19 pm
I'm not really sure what to make of Von, I read his post about who he thought was scum and it feels more like a post to give off the appearance of doing work idk though. It kinda feels like a copout. I mean its pretty easy to say "hey let's lynch all the wallflowers" and appear is if you're trying.

Are you a wallflower?

Is Blindknagg a wallflower?

Is Cyntalan a wallflower?

Do you think all of the wallflowers are town?

Please be specific. Thank you.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 06:46:17 pm
Chief your thoughts on vonvorto?

Extremely lynchable after we hit at least 1 mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 06:49:14 pm
"If you're mafia, well played. If you're town, I apologize for overestimating you."
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 06:51:12 pm
"If you're mafia, well played. If you're town, I apologize for overestimating you."

"Sticks and stones"
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 06:51:56 pm
<3
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:52:08 pm
Are you a wallflower?

Is Blindknagg a wallflower?

Is Cyntalan a wallflower?

Do you think all of the wallflowers are town?

Please be specific. Thank you.

Yes, yes, yes and if not exactly wallflower minimal participants. No, otherwise i wouldn't have voted for TGG. But so far we've lynched two "minimal participants" RadicalFuzz and TCJ, which did almost nothing good for us.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 06:55:08 pm
How is it my problem if everyone piled onto lurking townies? Admittedly I spent the entire game trying to get Synonym lynched, but at least he had content and interactions to work with.

I think we have different standards for what constitutes lurking. I think Blindknagg and Cyntalan , at the very least, have been reasonably active; just out of the spotlight.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 06:58:41 pm
I think we have different standards for what constitutes lurking. I think Blindknagg and Cyntalan , at the very least, have been reasonably active; just out of the spotlight.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 06:59:17 pm
How is it my problem if everyone piled onto lurking townies? Admittedly I spent the entire game trying to get Synonym lynched, but at least he had content and interactions to work with.

I think we have different standards for what constitutes lurking. I think Blindknagg and Cyntalan , at the very least, have been reasonably active; just out of the spotlight.

There are a couple players who have dodged a substantial amount of suspicion and pressure.

ForgeDigger
Blindknagg

Im not ignoring this at all. Trust me.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 07:00:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
No Vote(3):Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(2):Cobalt, The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
The Chief(1):Cyntalan
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 07:09:56 pm
Hmm... how many people entertain the idea of thg being t4t if he is mafia?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 07:19:22 pm
I threw out Chief in hopes to see the third party go down before it's too late, but I get the paranoia. I will not let this go, however.

I, however, do not read TGG as anything but civ.

Vote Registered For Missing Person

I don't want to waste a lynch either. TGG is a waste. Chief is not a waste, but there's no support for it, so I give up today. My three picks for mafia do not feel like wastes either, however, so I vote MP. If the crowd moves more to Aug or Willy, I'm more than willing to put my vote there instead.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:24:33 pm
^Setting up for a TGG save are we Cynt?

Also, either TGG is Enforcer or Mafia yomi'd us by not enforcing night 2
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:25:58 pm
I could switch my vote on you mp for purely selfish reasons, and yet I'm not.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 07:28:40 pm
Day ends in 30.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 07:30:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(5):Blindknagg, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, vonvorto
No Vote(3):Reiraku, XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Missing Person(3):Cobalt, Cyntalan, The Chief
Augustus(1):Missing Person
vonvorto(1):Augustus
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:32:12 pm
Tgg will show up to vote and tie it now, along with one more who switches. And, I haven't done the math but it could be Lynch or lose?

13 with Max 4 mafia, 1 lover... nah we aren't Lynch or lose yet unless lover gets popped and are both civ?

Guys, don't give mafia wiggle room here to save tgg
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:35:58 pm
TGG and Reiraku are online waiting, and haven't placed their vote yet. But they will soon, you can bet it.

OZ is lost so likely DQd... which could affect the lynch or lose math?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:37:54 pm
@Missing Person Your Aug vote is putting this lynch in an awkward spot, at least be paying attention at deadline if you are civ

@Augustus don't miss the deadline this time with an "oops, I tried my best"
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 07:39:42 pm
Vote Registered For TGG

Oz is going to be out, so that's fine. Who else has anything to say before the window closes?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 07:41:14 pm
This will ba a tie.

Reiraku and TGG will show up to vore MP, but only if they're certain it will tie, because they dont want to lose either person.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: The Chief on February 15, 2017, 07:42:05 pm
NB4'D. I thought you said you would vote MP Reiraku?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 07:43:23 pm
I'm not opposed to an MP vote, but is a tie a good situation for us to be in right now?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 07:50:01 pm
Happy almost 2000 posts, Bious.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Reiraku on February 15, 2017, 07:51:51 pm
Like, I'm legitimate asking. I know it was mentioned that likely one of the better players was mafia, so MP fits the bill. I just want to know if putting us in a tie this close to the deadline worthwhile?

And if I go MP, would Willy as well, thus changing the wagon?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 07:52:07 pm
I'm here.

Please don't lynch MP. Even if he is a clown.

This TGG wagon seems too easy but whatever.

Vote Registered For TGG
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 07:57:54 pm
This is dumb.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:58:13 pm
Alright mafia, let's do this

Vote Registered For Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:59:11 pm
Vote Registered For TGG

Just Kidding
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 07:59:18 pm
Lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 07:59:25 pm
Maybe I shouldn't be though
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 15, 2017, 08:00:04 pm
XthAtGAm3RGuYX(7):Augustus, Blindknagg, ForgeDigger, Fruit Punch Samurai G, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, vonvorto
Missing Person(3):Cobalt, Cyntalan, The Chief
No Vote(2):XthAtGAm3RGuYX, ZOOLANDER
Augustus(1):Missing Person
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: XthAtGAm3RGuYX on February 15, 2017, 08:00:36 pm
No I'm not voting. I'm just watching all the plans burn.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 08:00:56 pm
Day over.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:01:19 pm
If you're civ I'm gonna be really butt hurt at this only showing up the last 30 mins tgg lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 08:03:28 pm
Btw if TGG or OZ aren't mafia its game over I think. If lover is paired with mafia.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:09:31 pm
If tgg isn't mafia, specifically enforcer, then I'm gonna shut up for the rest of the game because I obviously have been wrong the whole game

T4t could be dangerous, civ is sad time
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 08:10:55 pm
Werewolf gods, pls.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:14:34 pm
The delay makes me fearful of t4t
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Bious on February 15, 2017, 08:14:44 pm
Day 4
Happy Valentines Day!

"That day was brutal. A let of angry people. TGG especially."

"What happened?"

"TGG got there late, tired. That was suspicious, so the questioning started. Then Zoolander attacked her. They used to be lovers, I think, and Zoolander has heard she was screwing someone else. That, the weed, and his small penis probably pushed him over the edge. Anyway, Zoo bashes her head into the wall, but not before TGG stabbed him a few times. Zoo got up, looked around, and fell down, dead. Had enough poison in him to kill ten elephants."

"And TGG?"

"Her injury was too bad. We couldn't save her. The last words she said were 'I'm sorry.. James..."

"..."

"... It was a pretty hard scene to watch. I remember one person just staring at her body coldly. Then he picked up her gun and walked away."

"Rest in peace Val."

"Anyway..."

TGG got his head broken! He was Nurse Valentine!
ZOOLANDER has been DQ's for being a vote-missing c**t! He was an ordinary Spy!
James Bond is now activated!


IT IS NOW NIGHT. Night Ends at 11:00 AM February 16th EST.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 08:15:17 pm
well shit.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:16:44 pm
God. Fucking. Damn it.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:17:45 pm
No enforce was actually yomi night 2. We are fucked sideways
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 08:20:27 pm
Here are the numbers
6-4-1 (civ lovers)
5-5-1 (Split lovers)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 08:21:08 pm
Gray Spy

If you're still in, odds are you're losing as it is.

Might as well role claim now, so we can narrow down who to look at for lynches and vigi kills.  We are two phases away from losing if the vigi holds still. If he shoots, we're at MYLO.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 08:21:37 pm
Gray spy counts as civilian toward parity @Fruit Punch Samurai G
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 08:23:20 pm
Fuck you, TGG.

You morons should have lynched von like I said.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Synonym Stick)
Post by: Fruit Punch Samurai G on February 15, 2017, 08:24:19 pm
Numbers Redux:            After Tonight (No Bond shot):
7-4 (civ lovers)              6-4
6-5 (split lovers)            5-5
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken-Skullgirls)
Post by: vonvorto on February 15, 2017, 08:25:59 pm
Yeah, that was disgusting.

Please vig me so I can leave JTM in peace.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cyntalan on February 15, 2017, 08:34:37 pm
Welp... at least we have a live vigi now?  :(

Should vigi take a shot tonight? I don't think he should, just yet.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 08:36:04 pm
If the vigilante shoots wrong, then game is likely over I think.

So either shoot if you're 100% sure or f up and be berated post-game.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 08:36:33 pm
Or withhold.

Forgot that option.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 08:40:24 pm
Nah I'm taking the shot

Anybody have a target in mind?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 08:46:45 pm
:/
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 15, 2017, 08:49:05 pm
Fine, big names then?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 09:02:55 pm
I'm not really vigi. Probably. Maybe. But theoretically if I was... I'm taking names.

Like... von.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 09:10:34 pm
Bet Pimp's really wishing he had gotten his mislynch on me instead of his mislynch on TGG, right?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 09:11:24 pm
MP, if you happen to be vig, please don't shoot me.

You dumb clown.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 09:13:29 pm
Don't shoot Willy either. Holy s***.

Don't shoot FPSG.

Don't shoot MP unless you want a good laugh.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 09:14:42 pm
I thought MP was the doctor btw because of the Dr. Evil stuff he kept posting. Still wanna hold onto that read .
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 09:16:10 pm
Don't shoot Willy either. Holy s***.

Don't shoot FPSG.

Don't shoot MP unless you want a good laugh.

Awwww, but you're daring me.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 09:16:28 pm
Wrong post to quote.

You know what I mean.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Augustus on February 15, 2017, 09:16:38 pm
Probably not Forge. Obviously not Chief.

After that, glgl.

It's probably wise to withhold though.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Pimp Willy on February 15, 2017, 09:28:08 pm
You can't shoot me, it voids our avatar bet lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 10:26:54 pm
Re-reviewing the thread:

The only reason I'm not voting Alpha is because I want to see if we can have another catastrophe like the last time I played.

A game that ends up being as entertaining as that last one.

Of course, I also died that game too. So let's try to avoid that.

Ew.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 10:35:41 pm
The fact also that Reiraku suddenly wanted my head, after following me all game as well is wtf.  In a different way than Cobalt. I didn't mind his so much, even though I went for his throat for putting me on the chopping block as a serious contender.

The fact is he waited until there was a wagon forming to even talk about jumping on. But he didn't.  Why? Because there was less people suspecting me than TGG. Because TGG was an easier lynch to hide in. Because the moment he jumped on, he'd be next on the lynch train after me saying I wanted him lynched and smelled scum between himself and Cobalt, with Cobalt being considered more towny than he.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Missing Person on February 15, 2017, 10:37:41 pm
You can't shoot me, it voids our avatar bet lol

Actually...

And as for me getting mine lol.

I'll make an avatar bet with @Pimp Willy right now that I'll live longer than he does.  Only valid through lynch votes and vigi kills. If one of us is night killed by mafia it's void.

Bang bang ur ded lol
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 15, 2017, 11:40:25 pm
God dammit Gamer
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/smhn.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cobalt on February 16, 2017, 03:53:40 am
Whoa okay so I passed out and slept for like 12 hours, what ???
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cobalt on February 16, 2017, 03:54:22 am
git gud TGG

Reasonably sure MP, Von, Cyntalan, and prob Reiraku are mafia.

Would recommend shooting there.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cobalt on February 16, 2017, 03:54:51 am
The fact also that Reiraku suddenly wanted my head, after following me all game as well is wtf.  In a different way than Cobalt. I didn't mind his so much, even though I went for his throat for putting me on the chopping block as a serious contender.

The fact is he waited until there was a wagon forming to even talk about jumping on. But he didn't.  Why? Because there was less people suspecting me than TGG. Because TGG was an easier lynch to hide in. Because the moment he jumped on, he'd be next on the lynch train after me saying I wanted him lynched and smelled scum between himself and Cobalt, with Cobalt being considered more towny than he.
See, if MP is mafia he's always pushing a buddy harder than me I think.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 16, 2017, 07:25:18 am
Here's the thing that bothers me. Like Chief's said, we've been lynch wallflowers all game and basically have nothing for it. To me, that sounds like a good reason to look elsewhere at bigger, more active players. But I'm gonna be really upset if we've just been lynching the wrong wallflowers.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Bious on February 16, 2017, 07:31:50 am
Night ends in 30.
Write up will be delayed; I got a meeting to go to.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 16, 2017, 07:33:07 am
My ordering from most scummy to least scummy out of the big names:

Cobalt
PW
Augustus
MP

With the caveat that MP is only so low because I misread him as mafia all the time. Maybe I'm just overcompensating for it

I have no hard evidence for these, but just an initial look. I focus a lot more on the game after 10pm tonight, probably. I can hopefully do more research then.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cobalt on February 16, 2017, 07:41:29 am
My ordering from most scummy to least scummy out of the big names:

Cobalt
PW
Augustus
MP

With the caveat that MP is only so low because I misread him as mafia all the time. Maybe I'm just overcompensating for it

I have no hard evidence for these, but just an initial look. I focus a lot more on the game after 10pm tonight, probably. I can hopefully do more research then.
if Forge angles to push me beginning the next phase, she's mafia.

Anyone who comes hard at me next phase is aiming for a final mislynch and I'm still a big name so it's easy to swing it on me.

But I've still never been mislynched as town so I mean you can try.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 16, 2017, 08:01:31 am
So if I try to push the person I think is the most scummy I'm mafia?

And if I try to go for someone lower than that, I'm also mafia?

Bitch where
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Cobalt on February 16, 2017, 09:02:19 am
So if I try to push the person I think is the most scummy I'm mafia?

And if I try to go for someone lower than that, I'm also mafia?

Bitch where
Where did I say anything about lynching lower than that?

And where is this scum read coming from? Just emerging for you now because it's convenient?
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: Bious on February 16, 2017, 09:21:52 am
Night 4
Samu-mashed


"I have this next night on audiotape. Warning: it gets graphic."

"Play it."

PLAYING TAPE

"Nice try, Fruity! But you wern't good enough to escape me!"

"God damn you, pony!"

SMACK

"QUIET! Now you're gonna be part of my experiment!"

"Uh... In all honesty I'd rather just take a bullet."

"TOO BAD!"

SOUND OF LEVER BEING THROWN, THEN SOUNDS OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GRINDER STARTING

"OH GOD NO!!! FUCKING PONIIIESSSS! AAAGGGHHHHHAGHAPLBLeha....."

GRINDER STOPS, SOUNDS OF DRINKING CAN BE HEARD

"Mmmm-mmm! Bloody Fruit Punchy Goodness in every sip!"

SOUND OF DOOR OPENING

"Be more careful, Pinkie. This chump heard the sounds and was about to walk in on you till I snuck him."

"Oh boo-hoo, we're almost done here anyway Girl Smith! What are you gonna do with him?"

"I'll just toss him in a closet. I don't feel like seeing any more blood after what you just did."

"Fair enough, I'm full anyway."

END TAPE

"... Wow that Pony is fucked up."

"I know. Anyway..."

Fruit Punch Samurai was juiced! He was an ordinary spy!
Missing Person was enforced!


IT IS NOW DAY. Day ends at 11:00 PM February 17th.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (Broken Skullgirls)
Post by: ForgeDigger on February 16, 2017, 09:22:26 am
Where did I say anything about lynching lower than that?

And where is this scum read coming from? Just emerging for you now because it's convenient?
You didn't have to. In what world does it look clean to say someone is the most suspicious to you and then go for someone else?

I didn't say they were hard reads anyway.  They are gut reads that I was going to flesh out later in the day.

And it isn't convenient, either. Who else is looking at you hard enough for you to snap at them? 1 person? You're hardly close to being lynched.

I will keep your anxious reaction in mind when I do my research tonight.
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooood Juice!)
Post by: Bious on February 16, 2017, 09:29:44 am
Players
Augustus
Blindknagg
Cobalt
Cyntalan
ForgeDigger
Missing Person
Pimp Willy
Reiraku
The Chief
vonvorto
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooood Juice!)
Post by: The Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:52:26 am
Augustus - Civ
Blindknagg - Mafia
Cobalt - Civ
Cyntalan - Mafia
ForgeDigger - Civ
Missing Person - Civ
Pimp Willy - Civ
Reiraku - Mafia
vonvorto - Mafia

Based on last say phase and last night this is my final list.

Do with this as you wish. I'll be reading and researching.



Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooood Juice!)
Post by: vonvorto on February 16, 2017, 09:53:15 am
Vote Registered For Blindknagg

At this point, we're definitely going to lose due to the Bomber and, potentially, the Vig being found out.

But for postgame glory, I'm calling the scumteam as Blindknagg/Cyntalan/ForgeDigger/Reiraku.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on February 16, 2017, 10:00:04 am
No Vote(9):Augustus, Blindknagg, Cobalt, Cyntalan, ForgeDigger, Missing Person, Pimp Willy, Reiraku, The Chief
Blindknagg(1):vonvorto
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooood Juice!)
Post by: Blindknagg on February 16, 2017, 10:13:15 am
Vote Registered For Blindknagg

But for postgame glory, I'm calling the scumteam as Blindknagg/Cyntalan/ForgeDigger/Reiraku.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mby0uuATEu1rwkx4n.gif)
Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooood Juice!)
Post by: Missing Person on February 16, 2017, 10:38:35 am
Just FYI:

I am Vigi. I softed several times.

I targeted Reiraku last night.

There's obviously something about my list that scared mafia enough to not let me get off a shot if I was really vigi. And that still doesn't clear PW.

Sent from my SM-T113 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JTM Spy vs Spy Runback Day 4 (That's Goooo