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Title: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on December 16, 2017, 02:45:02 pm
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGS

Votes due/game ends in

Players
Blindknagg
Pimp Willy
RadicalFuzz
Reiraku

@Blindknagg
@Pimp Willy
@RadicalFuzz
@Reiraku
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 16, 2017, 03:00:04 pm
No Vote(4):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 16, 2017, 04:05:33 pm
I'm witch. I peeked #3 (seer) and swapped it onto Willy.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 16, 2017, 07:07:15 pm
I'm witch. I peeked #3 (seer) and swapped it onto Willy.

Hmm. Interesting. I'm seer and I peeked BK as a witch, so likely he switched somebody else instead. But he is a witch for sure.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 16, 2017, 10:17:18 pm
I'm the robber.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 17, 2017, 12:07:13 am
@Reiraku

Right again, but who did you rob?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 17, 2017, 01:07:43 am
BK, I'm really curious as to what role RadicalFuzz has, however.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 17, 2017, 01:16:41 am
Hmm. Interesting. I'm seer and I peeked BK as a witch, so likely he switched somebody else instead. But he is a witch for sure.

That's strange. It did say seer in the message but perhaps it could have been the Apprentice Seer?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 17, 2017, 01:38:47 am
Or you were originally the Mystic Toogs, and since we're playing with Grande rules that role can look at another player's role just like the seer.

Quote
Grande

PLACEHOLDER
Mystic Toogs: The Mystic Toogs may look at one other player's role.
Message: You are a Mystic Toogs. Please submit your action as 'Look: (Player)'.

additionally-
Quote
The order of Abilities is as follows:
(Note: d.(Role) denotes the role if the Doppelgänger viewed it. e.g. If the Doppelgänger views the Robber card, the Doppelgänger would take their turn at d.Robber.)

Sentinel
Doppelgänger
d.Seer = d.Robber = d.Troublemaker = d.Drunk
Lone Toogs
Head Toogs
Mystic Toogs
Seer
Apprentice Seer
Paranormal Investigator
Robber
Witch

Troublemaker
Village Idiot
Drunk
Insomniac
d.Insomniac
Revealer
d.Revealer
Curator
d.Curator

So the robber got priority over the witch.

It's been a while since I last played so I'm slightly unsure on how this works but I assume that my first ability goes off since it happens during the first half of the night (and also because I got a message that the 3rd role was the seer.).
Then when I try to switch it the robber's ability triggers first which means that my seer swap onto Pimp fails?

Thoughts @Reiraku @Pimp Willy?

All the roles for reference
Ok, roles are going out now. Here's what we're playing:

Mystic Toogs
Toogs
Seer
Apprentice Seer
Paranormal Investigator
Robber
Witch
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 17, 2017, 09:48:40 am
Not sure myself how it works out. I'm still curious why Fuzz hasn't checked in. Given what we know thus far, I really don't want to vote him twice in a row, but...
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 17, 2017, 12:42:27 pm
I was actually not seer, I was paranormal investigator. I was able to see that Rei was a robber and BK was a witch. You both are telling the truth about who you are.

Not sure who Rei robbed from, and that leaves @RadicalFuzz as the wild card here

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 17, 2017, 01:00:04 pm
No Vote(3):Blindknagg, RadicalFuzz, Reiraku
RadicalFuzz(1):Pimp Willy
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 17, 2017, 02:34:47 pm
I'm Apprentice Seer & peeked vanilla Toogs in Centre 1. Rei claimed Robber, BK claimed Witch, and you backed both of them up, with BK's claim putting you as Seer now even if you managed to somehow guess one of them correctly as Mystic Toogs. We win if no villagers die right?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 17, 2017, 03:58:06 pm
I think so. A no vote seems viable.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 17, 2017, 04:00:15 pm
Just saw PW's post. Willy, what do you think of Fuzz's claim?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 17, 2017, 08:16:23 pm
Heading to bed. Please keep everyone alive so we win. Vote Registered For No Lynch
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 17, 2017, 08:30:04 pm
No Vote(2):Blindknagg, Reiraku
No Lynch(1):RadicalFuzz
RadicalFuzz(1):Pimp Willy
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 17, 2017, 09:26:43 pm
Vote Registered For No Lynch

Even if this is an Alpha run game, I just can't see him setting up Fuzz twice.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 17, 2017, 09:30:04 pm
No Lynch(2):RadicalFuzz, Reiraku
RadicalFuzz(1):Pimp Willy
No Vote(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 17, 2017, 09:54:19 pm
No vote seems shaky. We are blindly trusting fuzz and two here. I feel like rei stole from fuzz and fuzz might have been dirty... hmm.

No vote takes a lot of trust, which is in short supply here
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 01:20:28 am
I really need my morning coffee before figuring this out but for now:

Vote Registered For RadicalFuzz
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 18, 2017, 01:30:04 am
No Lynch(2):RadicalFuzz, Reiraku
RadicalFuzz(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 02:29:17 am
Welp.

Since para investigator takes priority over both the robber and witch we can't rule out that Rei is lying and swapped with Fuzz.
So no matter if I successfully swapped the seer onto pimp or not he would still get both results from his investigations.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 02:40:08 am
BK, I'm really curious as to what role RadicalFuzz has, however.

If you toast really hard this could come of as a "I swapped with Fuzz but want to make a post to distance myself from him", he also waited until Pimp prodded him further before revealing that he swapped with me.

Toogs still win if no one dies so a no lynch suggestion from both of them makes sense. (assuming Fuzz was toogs before the swap)

@Pimp Willy
@RadicalFuzz
@Reiraku

Thoughts?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 03:46:45 am
Looks like RNG will decide this one  :votebot:
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on December 18, 2017, 04:01:10 am
o shit, I made the game end at American night time again. That's no fun.

+12
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on December 18, 2017, 04:02:23 am
Although y'all nignogs should really be able to get your shit together after 36 hours.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:25:49 am
Why are you guys considering the possibility of Reiraku lying? Isn't he one of those guys that's all about "I never lie" and just twists his words instead?

Thanks Alpha. Not for making it end at 4 AM in America, but for fixing it lol
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 04:29:45 am
That's what he wants us to believe.
(https://i.imgur.com/9lA53mB.gif)
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 04:30:23 am
12 more hours PogChamp
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:52:50 am
I mean it's a legitimate question. Nobody seemed to really make a big deal out of it last game when he said he always tells the truth so I assume that's just how he plays. If it is, then there's no reason to believe that this one game is the one where he's lying and the question is moot.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 09:12:33 am
Oh shit I even fell asleep before I was able to come back and figure out the game.

About Rei, has he mentioned who he robbed? He's been pretty coy about that one. Oh wait, I scrolled back up and see he said he robbed BK. I didn't catch that at first. He's not truly been know to outright lie.

He is also advocating a no lynch for all, which does raise suspicions. @Blindknagg also caught onto this. Fuzz and Rei both willing to vote no lynch kind of makes me worried, almost like Fuzz is Dirty and Rei stole from him and they both think they are getting the better end of it.

@Blindknagg please tell me you were lying about Seer being center 3, since fuzz is saying Center 1 was vanilla toogs maybe can nail him on it lol.

Also, Im not sure "No Lynch" is a valid vote here, at least per the IRL game the only way to no lynch is to make sure everyone has the same amount of votes (aka 1 each) and even 1 vote nullifies it from working. Maybe Alpha can clarify.

I am willing to try it if you guys really thing both toogs are in center lol.

Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 09:14:52 am
@Blindknagg please tell me you were lying about Seer being center 3, since fuzz is saying Center 1 was vanilla toogs maybe can nail him on it lol.

Nope center 3 is the Seer  Skizzzgasm
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 09:27:46 am
Le Sigh
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 09:46:44 am
Pimp this might sound a little condescending but have you considered the possibility that I'm, in fact, telling the truth?

If Rei has such a truth boner then I'm inclined to believe him. From my perspective there's no decision to be made because even if he Robbed me it's still 4 Town and we do the exact same thing anyway.

@✰Alpha✰
In the event of an all-Town game, how do the Town win? Does "No Lynch" need more votes than any other option or do we need a 4-way tie?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 10:39:58 am
Yes I considered it, thats why I even floated the idea of a no lynch being valid. But that takes serious trust that

A) You're not conning us

and

B) Everyone manages to follow the rules properly with the vote.


I personally know that Rei and BK told the truth about their roles, so the only wild card is you, that's the way it goes
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 10:44:26 am
If you can't expect people to follow the rules then why are we even bothering lol

Is there anything I can do to show you that I'm trying to get everyone to win?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 10:58:39 am
To my knowledge, the No Lynch option is the winning play if no players are toogs. Basically, if what I'm reading is correct, that would be our winning option.

Also, how Christmas-y would it be for everyone to win and no one dies?  Vyncemas
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 11:12:40 am
If I remember, the last time this came up, no lynch was not allowed, everyone has to end up with 1 vote each. Just gotta get alpha to confirm
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on December 18, 2017, 01:18:20 pm
If I remember, the last time this came up, no lynch was not allowed, everyone has to end up with 1 vote each. Just gotta get alpha to confirm

That's correct. I'll start bringing it up every time someone no lynches in the future.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 01:24:55 pm
Okay then. So if i vote PW, he votes for fuzz, fuzz votes bk, and bk votes for me?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 01:45:55 pm
I don't care who votes who, so that sounds good to me.

Vote Registered For Blindknagg
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 01:55:42 pm
I still don't see why we are trusting Fuzz here, other than he said to?
Or Rei for that matter, other than some thing about him not lying?

I havent really seen a way for Mystic Toogs to sneak in a win here using his power, everything seems on the up and up there.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 01:59:48 pm
I can't prove that I'm Apprentice Seer, I didn't have the luxury of being one of the 2 people checked by the Witch in a 4-player game.
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 18, 2017, 02:00:04 pm
RadicalFuzz(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
No Lynch(1):Reiraku
Blindknagg(1):RadicalFuzz
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 02:05:29 pm
Vote Registered For Pimp Willy

I get what you're saying PW, but I think it's worth a shot. Fuzz isn't defending like he was last game, which leads me to believe him. Plus it would just be shitty to have the solution be always lynch fuzz.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 02:14:27 pm
hmmm
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 18, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
RadicalFuzz(2):Blindknagg, Pimp Willy
Pimp Willy(1):Reiraku
Blindknagg(1):RadicalFuzz
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 02:53:13 pm
Plus it would just be shitty to have the solution be always lynch fuzz.

You're relatively new here, aren't you? If hosts hand-picked roles the solution would most definitely be always lynch Fuzz lol
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 03:03:32 pm
Vote Registered For Reiraku
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 18, 2017, 03:30:03 pm
Pimp Willy(1):Reiraku
Blindknagg(1):RadicalFuzz
RadicalFuzz(1):Pimp Willy
Reiraku(1):Blindknagg
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 03:58:11 pm
Vote Registered For Reiraku
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 03:59:08 pm
What are you doing?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 03:59:29 pm
Fuck I misread Vote Bot
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 03:59:52 pm
Vote Registered For Blindknagg[/b]
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:00:01 pm
Vote Registered For Reiraku
Title: Current Votes
Post by: Vote Bot on December 18, 2017, 04:00:04 pm
Reiraku(2):Blindknagg, RadicalFuzz
Pimp Willy(1):Reiraku
RadicalFuzz(1):Pimp Willy
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:00:30 pm
Whew, that was a rush, eh?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 04:00:52 pm
Good grief
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:01:48 pm
Three seconds is a little closer than I intended it to be, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 18, 2017, 04:02:35 pm
Frysquint.jpg

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Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 04:03:04 pm
We almost had it. This close, Fuzz. This close.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:04:13 pm
You almost had it.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:04:26 pm
Unless you're implying what I'm increasingly afraid you're implying.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 04:05:00 pm
I am
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:06:28 pm
How? You couldn't have robbed from the middle pile, so you're Town. Because you're Town I know that Pimp is Town. Even if you robbed me this is the failsafe, because I would then be Town.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 04:14:43 pm
If i robbed you, i would only copy your role. You wouldn't lose it
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:17:55 pm
That's wrong.

"Robber: At Night, the Robber may choose to rob a role from another player and give his role to that player. Then, the Robber receives his new role. The Robber is on the team of the role he takes, however, he does not do the Ability of his new role at Night.
Message: You are a Robber. Please submit your action as 'Rob: (Player)'.
Result: You are now a (Role)."
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 18, 2017, 04:27:55 pm
Never trust anybody
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:29:14 pm
What was the alternative in case I was telling the truth?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 04:36:00 pm
Protip: don't play toogs at work. Especially when you can't read certain descriptions properly and misread things. Anyways, Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 04:42:41 pm
Okay, that makes much more sense now. Merry Christmas to you too.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 18, 2017, 08:08:19 pm
I kind of expected something to happen. Is this how the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper?
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 18, 2017, 10:03:46 pm
You're not supposed to win. There's a glitch in the matrix.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 19, 2017, 01:05:39 am
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/713/4.png)
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: ✰Alpha✰ on December 19, 2017, 03:54:08 am
Soz, was too TRIGGERED by Fuzz winning that I couldn't type for 12 hours.

Reiraku was killed. Reiraku was a Mystic Toogs!

Game over.

MVP - RadicalFu Blindknagg

Villagers win!
Toogs lose!

Starting Roles:

Blindknagg - Witch
Pimp Willy - Paranormal Investigator
RadicalFuzz - Mystic Toogs
Reiraku - Robber
Centre 1 - Apprentice Seer
Centre 2 - Toogs
Centre 3 - Seer

Finishing Roles:

Blindknagg - Witch
Pimp Willy - Seer
RadicalFuzz - Robber
Reiraku - Mystic Toogs
Centre 1 - Apprentice Seer
Centre 2 - Toogs
Centre 3 - Paranormal Investigator

Actions:

Lone Toogs (RadicalFuzz) - Look: Centre 3
Mystic Toogs (RadicalFuzz) - Look: Blindknagg
Paranormal Investigator (Pimp Willy) - Look Blindknagg, Look Reiraku
Robber (Reiraku) - Rob: RadicalFuzz
Witch (Blindknagg) - Look: Centre 3, Swap: Pimp Willy
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 19, 2017, 04:45:58 am
If you toast really hard this could come of as a "I swapped with Fuzz but want to make a post to distance myself from him", he also waited until Pimp prodded him further before revealing that he swapped with me.

Toogs still win if no one dies so a no lynch suggestion from both of them makes sense. (assuming Fuzz was toogs before the swap)

@Pimp Willy
@RadicalFuzz
@Reiraku

Thoughts?

(https://m.popkey.co/c4044b/v0WE5.gif)
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 19, 2017, 07:33:53 am
Haha, well damn. Fucking Fuzz.  Good call BK. And good shit fuzz switching to rei last minute. Was that your plan all along? haha

No vote seems shaky. We are blindly trusting fuzz and two here. I feel like rei stole from fuzz and fuzz might have been dirty... hmm.

No vote takes a lot of trust, which is in short supply here

Never trust anybody here god damn it hahaha
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 19, 2017, 09:30:48 am
Yeah that's why I switched to Reiraku. If he stole my role he dies and I win. If he didn't and I was still Toogs, he dies and I win.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 19, 2017, 10:18:43 am
Nice option select there, glad I won for doing nothing lol
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 19, 2017, 10:54:52 am
Honestly, I was going to go hard on Fuzz until I thought I read that the robber "copied" their role, and not just swapped with them. That's why I stopped examining Fuzz and went with the "we're all villagers" role.

Also, I never lied in this game, but used grammatical shenanigans to mislead without lying.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: RadicalFuzz on December 19, 2017, 01:10:00 pm
Oh you, using the English language's many flaws to your advantage.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Reiraku on December 19, 2017, 01:41:43 pm
Yes, in this case, I used a comma after BK, indicating an addressing article. That is, I was directing that statement to BK while appearing to answer the question asked. If it had been a declarative statement, it would have been BK followed by a period.
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Pimp Willy on December 20, 2017, 09:14:52 am
Yes, in this case, I used a comma after BK, indicating an addressing article. That is, I was directing that statement to BK while appearing to answer the question asked. If it had been a declarative statement, it would have been BK followed by a period.

Which is why I actually didn't think you ever answered my question in the first place lol
Title: Re: One Night Ultimate Toogs - Game 14
Post by: Blindknagg on December 20, 2017, 09:51:07 am
Ban commas.  :votebot: